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Clam Crowder

I was just checking to see if this was already up, definitely an interesting article and worth the read. Very interesting stuff on Crean's hiring of the coach's son, and the commitments of 8 players from the Indiana Elite program soon after.

MUfan12

In before the inevitable lock...

4everwarriors

The dude is so phony, he probably believes his verbal sewerage.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Pakuni


mviale

#5
Wow - found this on espn front page http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6587668
You heard it here first. Davante Gardner will be a Beast this year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27259

Chili

But I like to throw handfuls...

Hards Alumni

I'd be curious to see what the IU forums are saying about this.

But not curious enough to find a link for myself.  ;D

mviale

could not win the right way, went the way of memphis, kentucky....
You heard it here first. Davante Gardner will be a Beast this year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27259

NersEllenson

Hmm...smoke there is fire...look forward to the resident Crean defender and Buzz basher/crucifier response to this article, particularily this:

"After Drew Adams, the son of Mark Adams, was promoted to director of operations/video coordinator in April 2010, Crean signed or picked up commitments from eight players with ties to A-HOPE and/or the Indiana Elite program. According to summer team forms on file with the NCAA, the younger Adams previously coached three of the players with Indiana Elite, and his father acknowledges that two -- 2012 commits Perea and 7-foot-1-inch Peter Jurkin, part of a class ranked No. 1 in the country by ESPN -- lived at his Bloomington, Ind., house last summer while he was their coach at Indiana Elite. Drew Adams' original hiring in September 2009 as IU's coordinator of basketball systems came just before an NCAA rule change that would have prohibited IU from signing players he previously was associated with for two years."
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

Jay Bee

C'mon guys, Chicos has already said it's no big deal, it's just some video coordinator.  Why in the world is ESPN wasting their time on this non-story?  They should be ashamed!
The portal is NOT closed.

jmayer1

#11
If I was a fan of the program and coach mentioned in this story, I would definitely be squirming.

It's almost as bad as recruiting the junior college ranks. It's a good thing for that school that this story only appeared on the front page of some low-brow internet site and not in a few very well-known blogs and papers like the Newbill situation.

rocky_warrior

If TC isn't careful, he might have to vacate all of his B101112 championships. 

MUDPT

Near the end:
"With all of the connections and movement, if folks fancy Indiana University silly enough to cheat these days, they're crazy. This opinion echoes through a phone line from coach Tom Crean, who three years ago inherited a Hoosiers program on probation after recruiting violations under former coach Kelvin Sampson. Crean paints an image of an IU compliance department that is on his tail 24 hours a day, seven days a week. "Transparency" is a buzzword he utters with regularity, saying, "I never understood what that word meant 'til I got to Indiana.""

I guess Marquette isn't transparent.

HoopsMalone

It seems like everything that Crean is doing is legal, but this type of press can't make IU happy, right or wrong.  I guess their program will be looked at with suspicion going forward regardless of the coach. 

DFW HOYA

#15
ESPN report. Was this ever an issue at Marquette?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6587668

Henry Sugar

A warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others.

DFW HOYA

Thanks for the support. The point was raised whether this was ever an issue at Marq.


4everwarriors

Everything he did at MU was an issue one way or another.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

The short answer is no.   There are a number of longer answers that will inevitably lead to this thread being locked. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Buzz's Tin

That AAU coach even looks like Crean. Scumbags 

Chicago_inferiority_complexes

Quote from: Warrior Tribe on May 26, 2011, 04:00:46 PM
That AAU coach even looks like Crean. Scumbags 

He has a Oompa-Loompa-esque tan?

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: mviale on May 26, 2011, 12:50:38 PM
could not win the right way, went the way of memphis, kentucky....


Hahahahaahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Not even close.

brewcity77

Getting to the end, this really made me feel like Crean is up to his neck in it.

Still, Crean backtracks on the notion that IU has enjoyed a significant advantage because Adams had coached players in summer ball whom the Hoosiers were recruiting, including three from Indiana Elite who later signed or committed. Crean plays down the familiarity angle, suggesting, "When long-term memory for the average human being scientifically shows to be three days, we can't bank on that."

Really? That's going to be the defense? We can't trust the familiarity these players had with Drew Adams because they won't remember the relationships they built because people's long-term memory doesn't last more than three days? What the hell is that, the Memento defense?

It seems like Crean has Indiana pointed back in the right direction, but I think the number that stood out for me was the "eight recruits". I remember seeing that Crean has something like 7-8 top 50 recruits coming in over the next four years. So basically, the entire basis of his successful recruiting is this one AAU program. Well, that and Cody Zeller, who I'm pretty sure isn't from the Sudan. This really looks like Crean cut a deal with the devil to get IU back on top. I'm disappointed. I hope that this isn't as bad as it looks for Crean, because while I didn't like the way he left Marquette, I also didn't want to hear about one of our former coaches being involved in something that seems this dirty.

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