Buzz now mentioned for Georgia Tech job.

[Goose]

What I heard would fall in line of almost any employee of a company. Basically a lack of appreciation and being thin skinned on some criticism. Only mention it because it probably is nothing if MU only gig open to him and could weigh in if choices need to be made.  

I like Buzz and his schtick a lot. Find it very entertaining but believe some of the schtick might be just that. It is impossible to know a guy off sound bites. I will not assume I know Buzz because he called a Christian radio show or hugged his wife.

[Niv Berkowitz]

BrewCity77

I hope you are correct but think you have some wishful thinking. I did hear from two sources that Buzz does have some complaints with MU/city and they are real concerns. Not stirring the pot here and not saying that trouble is brewing. Just saying that Buzz has been great the last week and said and done a lot great things.

ANYONE that prefaces an email with "not trying to stir the pot" is 100% trying to stir the pot.

I'm not trying to stir the pot, but rumors are that Goose's post is total b.s. Just sayin.

[Goose]

Niv--Believe what you want. I was responding to BrewCity77 and his post that Buzz will retire here. I hope he does. However I believe you have to believe in Santa Claus to think a guy is always 100% happy at current job and is willing to turn down more money if offered to him. Any time anyone says one thing in grey area they get jumped on. Seriously I really do not get it.

You are 100% incorrect on your post. Right now the last thing I want to do is be a buzz kill. I am enjoying the ride big time and hope it continues. However, I do have prepare myself of the possibility at just maybe Buzz does go back home.

Just sayin.

[Avenue Commons]

If anyone thinks that the Georgia Tech job is better than the Marquette job, please IM me. I have some beautiful pieces of land in the Florida Everglades for sale as well as a very, very nice bridge in Brooklyn, NY.

[NickelDimer]

What I heard would fall in line of almost any employee of a company. Basically a lack of appreciation and being thin skinned on some criticism. Only mention it because it probably is nothing if MU only gig open to him and could weigh in if choices need to be made.  

I like Buzz and his schtick a lot. Find it very entertaining but believe some of the schtick might be just that. It is impossible to know a guy off sound bites. I will not assume I know Buzz because he called a Christian radio show or hugged his wife.

Hmmm, not sure this is detailed enough to be called "concerns about MU/city".  Pretty vague, insignificant stuff.

[Pakuni]

ANYONE that prefaces an email with "not trying to stir the pot" is 100% trying to stir the pot.

I'm not trying to stir the pot, but rumors are that Goose's post is total b.s. Just sayin.

I'm not trying to stir the pot, but Goose told me yesterday that Buzz Williams is "in over his head" in the Big East.
Hours later, he outcoached (yeah, I said it) the winningnest coach in Big East history.

Again, not trying to stir the pot.
Just sayin.

[Goose]

Pakuni--You love to pick and chose what you quote. Buzz Williams said he should not be the coach at MU based on the coaching talent in BE. On the surface he was and is in over his head. I am nuts or idiot for stated exactly what the coach said. Let me guess he was being sly with that comment.

He has delivered the goods this week and truthfully I am on cloud nine. However, I am not going to jump up and down and yell Buzz beat another HOF coach. When you have 10-15 games a year against HOF coaches you are going to win sometimes.

You guys win. I will keep my mouth shut and go back to watching and not posting unless I can 100% agree on how great everything is all the time. Not sure why a web site with one opinion is interesting, but guess I am in minority.

FYI--I might be the only guy on here with an opinion that actually wants to be wrong. Guys on here pull back their posts from months ago to prove how smart they are. I want to be the dumbest guy on here and have it rubbed in my face that these points are flat out wrong:

1. Buzz could possibly take another job for money or going closer to home.
2. That Buzz has a lot to learn as a game coach to compete year in and year out in BE.
3. That being 4 seed gives you a better chance for FF than being an 11 seed.


Until proven otherwise I will politely watch from the sidelines as the KoolAid is sucked down. Funny thing is I have posted the following:

1. We are an elite program
2. We are a destination job.
3. High level confidence in team going into tourney
4. I really do like Buzz and hope he stays.

Just sayin

[Niv Berkowitz]

Goose, you doth protest too much.

Talking about Buzz' pros/cons is one thing. Bringing up rumor/innuendo w/the 'not trying to stir the pot' precursor does that. If you were to say some of the same things, only differently, they may come out better. That was cause for my retort. It's like the news stations today talking to their subject and beginning an interview with "some people say..." and then using that intro as a gateway into asking any absurd question/statement imaginable. What "people"? What sources? That is all.

[poopyscoopy]

What I heard would fall in line of almost any employee of a company. Basically a lack of appreciation and being thin skinned on some criticism. Only mention it because it probably is nothing if MU only gig open to him and could weigh in if choices need to be made.  

I like Buzz and his schtick a lot. Find it very entertaining but believe some of the schtick might be just that. It is impossible to know a guy off sound bites. I will not assume I know Buzz because he called a Christian radio show or hugged his wife.

I've heard a little of the "he's really thin skinned" talk, too.  It makes some sense if you recall his lashing out at McIlvaine on the postgame show a year or two ago when he thought a question was overly critical (and it was totally harmless).  

But I've also had a personal experience with Buzz where I ran into him with my family and he just started to talk to us out of the blue and he talked and talked and talked and talked and could not have been any nicer or genuine, if a bit eccentric.  Him calling into a little known Christian radio station out of the blue is very "Buzz like."

I'd be VERY surprised to see him leave.  But if some school decides to open up the Brinks truck, you never know.  

[Goose]

Nibv--Do you really think anyone with "real" sources is going to out their source on here. Honestly I do not care if you believe my posts, agree with them or disagree with them. When I say I am not trying to stir the pot I mean that. My posts never were meant to cause an argument, just state a fact.

If you are anybody else needs me to say insider x told me y and z is a possibility it is not going to happen. Guess I look at things differently and assume posters are telling the truth. If you do not like what someone says they are a liar. Not sure what evidence you can provide on my lying on here.

[Hards Alumni]

No offense intended to all the schools that Buzz is being mentioned with, but what do they have to offer that he doesn't have RIGHT NOW?

not a god damn thing.

[Litehouse]

If those are the types of issues that are out there, I can't imagine he'd be better off at Oklahoma where they'd tell him he needs to give up his parking spot for the new running backs coach.

[BrewCity83]

If those are the types of issues that are out there, I can't imagine he'd be better off at Oklahoma where they'd tell him he needs to give up his parking spot for the new running backs coach.

...or how fast they dumped Capel after some of the success he had there...

[thekahoona]

I'm worried about the Tennessee opening.  Marquette coaches have a tradition of going there after the Sweet Sixteen...  Doh!

[Muhoops85]

ANYONE that prefaces an email with "not trying to stir the pot" is 100% trying to stir the pot.

Always remember that everything before "but" is almost always a lie.

I'm not trying to stir the pot, but rumors are that Goose's post is total b.s. Just sayin.

[brewcity77]

My thought is that we are all feeling a bit jilted three years later by the departure of Crean. He came in, brought us back to the Final Four, then turned down job after job while collecting extension after extension. Just as we seem to have a team that can compete for Final Fours again, he up and leaves us for a program in ruins, proclaiming "It's Indiana, it's Indiana" as though Marquette was always just some red-headed stepchild of the college basketball world.

Crean left, and left a lot of us bitter and jaded. But let's remember that he did so after 9 years, and didn't leave until one of the true blue-bloods of college basketball opened up their vault to bring him in. Oklahoma's not Indiana. Arkansas isn't Indiana. Georgia Tech sure as hell isn't Indiana. And the only way you can compare Tennessee to Indiana is if Pat Summit joins Bruce Pearl on the unemployment line.

Buzz has a long way to go before he's getting the kind of offer that finally pried Crean away. And a run like this one will certainly get him the kind of contract extension that should keep him here and happy for at least 2-3 years before the real heavy-hitters, schools like Kansas if Bill Self tried the NBA, or Kentucky if the NCAA caught up with Calipari's dodgy dealings, or even hometown Texas if Rick Barnes suddenly forgot how to do his job, decide to come sniffing around after Buzz.

If I'm proven wrong and Buzz up and bolts as soon as we're knocked out of the tournament, stepping out of the team bus after they get back from success/failure in Newark/Houston and saying "Great run, but it's Georgia Tech, it's Georgia Tech, see you suckers later!" then I will willingly eat the crow I'm sure I will deserve. I just don't think we're close to that happening, and all the Andy Katz's and Gary Parrish's of the world can't change that.

[Benny B]

My thought is that we are all feeling a bit jilted three years later by the departure of Crean. He came in, brought us back to the Final Four, then turned down job after job while collecting extension after extension. Just as we seem to have a team that can compete for Final Fours again, he up and leaves us for a program in ruins, proclaiming "It's Indiana, it's Indiana" as though Marquette was always just some red-headed stepchild of the college basketball world.

Crean left, and left a lot of us bitter and jaded. But let's remember that he did so after 9 years, and didn't leave until one of the true blue-bloods of college basketball opened up their vault to bring him in. Oklahoma's not Indiana. Arkansas isn't Indiana. Georgia Tech sure as hell isn't Indiana. And the only way you can compare Tennessee to Indiana is if Pat Summit joins Bruce Pearl on the unemployment line.

Buzz has a long way to go before he's getting the kind of offer that finally pried Crean away. And a run like this one will certainly get him the kind of contract extension that should keep him here and happy for at least 2-3 years before the real heavy-hitters, schools like Kansas if Bill Self tried the NBA, or Kentucky if the NCAA caught up with Calipari's dodgy dealings, or even hometown Texas if Rick Barnes suddenly forgot how to do his job, decide to come sniffing around after Buzz.

If I'm proven wrong and Buzz up and bolts as soon as we're knocked out of the tournament, stepping out of the team bus after they get back from success/failure in Newark/Houston and saying "Great run, but it's Georgia Tech, it's Georgia Tech, see you suckers later!" then I will willingly eat the crow I'm sure I will deserve. I just don't think we're close to that happening, and all the Andy Katz's and Gary Parrish's of the world can't change that.

I'm going with IWB on this one... Buzz isn't going anywhere.  My guess is that his extension is already in place... they're just waiting on making the announcement.

[ChicosBailBonds]

No..to answer the bolded question...considering UCONN was the Number 9 team in the country with the same 9-9 record as MU (and head to head 1-1).  And judging by the way VCU PUMMLED the Big 10 runner up Purdue who was ranked 13th...I'd have to say VCU is a Top 16 team in the country.

I could care less about regular season results if my team advances to the Sweet 16 each year...

Posts like these are those that make you lose credibility - but I guess you are so far beyond concern for that, as you know you have ZERO credibility with 80% of this board...what's adding another 10% of Scoopers who perceive you as a tool?

Ners...I don't think I'm wrong on this but you're entitled to your opinion.  By your logic, George Mason a few years ago was the 3rd best team in the country because they went to the Final Four.  I would argue, correctly, that they finished 3rd best in the NCAA Tournament which is different than being 3rd best in the country.  The tournament is a one and done affair in which often the best team in the country doesn't win the championship.  One bad day, and you're gone. 

There will be some years when we will go farther than our true measurement is just as there will be some years where we will get knocked out earlier than when we should.  That's the nature of the tournament.

I'm sorry you took such exception to it, but I believe most college experts would agree with me.

[GGGG]

I don't think Buzz is leaving either.  I think brewcity's point about how it took nine years before IU got TC to leave MU is a good one.  I don't think anyone blames TC for leaving MU when he did.  Nine years is a long time.  IU is a very nice program.

I have heard from a couple people that Buzz loves the team and the University...but that he isn't all that fond of Milwaukee both from a personal and recruiting standpoint.  I don't think he spends the rest of his career here.  But I don't think he is leaving yet.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I could care less about regular season results if my team advances to the Sweet 16 each year...

I have a hard time believing this. If MU wins the Big East next season, and gets knocked out before the elite 8, there will be pissed off posters who will attack Buzz and say he should be fired because only results in March matter.

I have a feeling you will suddenly care about the regular season, and quite frankly, you should.

The tournament is a fantastic sporting event. However, it's not a fantastic evaluation tool as the sample size is so small.

I thought Sunday's game was awesome, but if DJO misses that jumper, it doesn't suddenly mean that MU's season is a failure. Conversely, a made jumper doesn't suddenly mean that Buzz is the greatest coach on the planet.

Perspective, gentlemen.

[NickelDimer]

A buddy just texted and said Bill King on Rivals radio said he does not expect Buzz to stay at Marquette. Said he expects him to take OU or Arkansas.  FWIW.

[NersEllenson]

A buddy just texted and said Bill King on Rivals radio said he does not expect Buzz to stay at Marquette. Said he expects him to take OU or Arkansas.  FWIW.

And who is Bill King and what inside sources might he have?  I'm not asking this in a jack ass way..but I've not heard of him.  Does he have credibility?

[Goose]

MUalum---Great post. It seems that many do not evaluate the full body of work. I would say this season is different because expectations were lower and the NCAA performance made the year. However, hopefully down the down the road the expectations are higher and we care from Oct. 15- first week of April.

[Hards Alumni]

And who is Bill King and what inside sources might he have?  I'm not asking this in a jack ass way..but I've not heard of him.  Does he have credibility?

I was going to ask the same thing, "Who is Bill King?".

[MU B2002]

I was going to ask the same thing, "Who is Bill King?".

Former Sixers GM?