Buzz to be on Jim Rome show at 11:30 CT

[leever]

If Buzz leaves it will be because of all the negativity on this board!

Wait!  I have less than 200 posts.  Please discount my comment by 50%.

[Skatastrophy]

People who do other things besides post endlessly on message boards are more out of touch. Flawless logic there.

The logic is that their arguments are based on emotion instead of reality, just like your response.

Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired.

[APieperFan3]

I HOPE Buzz stays, but at the same time can't blame him if he leaves.  We know for a fact the coaching staff and athletic department do read these boards....and there has been enough negativity spewed around here regarding him and some of the players....to where a guy probably goes - WTF do these people expect?  What will be the climate around here if we actually miss an NCAA tourney (like North Carolina and UCONN have recently?).

If schools didn't feel like you could poach a coach from Marquette...that the program was such a destination job...you wouldn't hear his name come up.  Maybe our own fanbase needs to get a grip with reality and realize that due to no football team, and minimal HS talent in WI...MU is far from an ideal job.  The way you retain a coach is gratitude..money alone won't do the job..but if a coach feels revered, appreciated, respected, valued, etc....makes it that much harder for him to leave.

But doing that makes one a fanboy.  God forbid.

DING DING DING! Couldn't agree more, Ners.

I love MU bball with all my heart...but IT IS NOT A DREAM COACHING JOB for probably 85%+ of the coaches out there. I'm just hoping this is Buzz's dream job...

Buzz getting looks from other schools in a compliment to him, our staff and our program.

[Goose]

I am one f the under 200 post guys but try to leave emotion out of it. Not exactly sure how being relatively new poster takes away credibility of comments.

[groove]

I HOPE Buzz stays, but at the same time can't blame him if he leaves.  We know for a fact the coaching staff and athletic department do read these boards....and there has been enough negativity spewed around here regarding him and some of the players....to where a guy probably goes - WTF do these people expect?  What will be the climate around here if we actually miss an NCAA tourney (like North Carolina and UCONN have recently?).

wow, if Buzz leaves because of negative posts on a message board he would really be a weak-minded coach. I bet he goes off into a special room at home and listens to Lionel Ritchie CDs after he reads muscoop posts of negativity.

[NersEllenson]

wow, if Buzz leaves because of negative posts on a message board he would really be a weak-minded coach. I bet he goes off into a special room at home and listens to Lionel Ritchie CDs after he reads muscoop posts of negativity.

Not surprised to hear you chime in with negativity Groove..as it has been your M.O. for a long time.  I know you feel MU can land an elite, proven coach, simply by throwing the most money at said candidate.  I disagree. 

Why should Buzz stay at a school where he has to work 2 times as hard to land recruits, as he would at Arkansas or Oklahoma - while simulateneously dealing with an ungrateful fanbase (as represented on message boards.)?

[leever]

soft rock = soft defense?

[only a warrior]

The logic is that their arguments are based on emotion instead of reality, just like your response.

Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired.

Probably under 200 posts here so I will not venture a guess on what Buzz does.

Though I do have much better things to do with my time than post upwards of 1,600   

Good luck Warriors on Friday

[4everwarriors]

When is he leaving?

Probably by Monday.

[FrennA]

I've read nearly every post since being a member of MUSCOOP when it started and Ringoutahoya before that and my feeling regarding Buzz and coaching opportunities is.......Oh wait, damn it...only 51 posts.  Forget it.  

[leever]

I've read nearly every post since being a member of MUSCOOP when it started and Ringoutahoya before that and my feeling regarding Buzz and coaching opportunities is.......Oh wait, damn it...only 51 posts.  Forget it.  

But you do get extra credit for reading every post!  Holy Crap! 

[groove]

Not surprised to hear you chime in with negativity Groove..as it has been your M.O. for a long time.  I know you feel MU can land an elite, proven coach, simply by throwing the most money at said candidate.  I disagree.  

Why should Buzz stay at a school where he has to work 2 times as hard to land recruits, as he would at Arkansas or Oklahoma - while simulateneously dealing with an ungrateful fanbase (as represented on message boards.)?

Actually I had been doing really well the last week or so with positive posts after someone (thanks reinko) pointed out I was becoming a bitter old man, and I figured it would hamper my ability of dating 19 year old girls, but you bring out the best in me with your totally over the top fanboi genuflecting at the altar of buzz. Suggesting that Buzz would leave because of message board posts is about as over the top as you can get with a mancrush.

[groove]

soft rock = soft defense?

yes - air supply would be the worst defense

[Litehouse]

If Buzz leaves because he thinks our fan-base is too demanding, then he's going to have a real tough time in Oklahoma or Arkansas where they just fired coaches with arguably similar resumes.

[Skatastrophy]

I've read nearly every post since being a member of MUSCOOP when it started and Ringoutahoya before that and my feeling regarding Buzz and coaching opportunities is.......Oh wait, damn it...only 51 posts.  Forget it.   

Gimme a break.  It was clear that my original argument was with regards to arguing a point based on emotion.

The easiest way to denote the people arguing that way before my original post in the thread was by recognizing that they all had under 200 posts.

If I knew that all of the lurkers would come her and circle-jerk around some perceived insult... I probably would have posted the same thing. 

[FrennA]

Gimme a break.  It was clear that my original argument was with regards to arguing a point based on emotion.

The easiest way to denote the people arguing that way before my original post in the thread was by recognizing that they all had under 200 posts.

If I knew that all of the lurkers would come her and circle-jerk around some perceived insult... I probably would have posted the same thing. 

I totally understand - no offense taken - I'm just here for the circle-jerk!

[GGGG]

I HOPE Buzz stays, but at the same time can't blame him if he leaves.  We know for a fact the coaching staff and athletic department do read these boards....and there has been enough negativity spewed around here regarding him and some of the players....to where a guy probably goes - WTF do these people expect?  

Do you think this is a negative board?  Because this is a meadow full of flowers and unicorns compared to some of the other ones out there.

I do like how you are setting the stage for the "negative Scoopers drove Buzz away" line that you will undoubtedly spew if he does leave though.  Anything to deflect the blame off of your hero.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I HOPE Buzz stays, but at the same time can't blame him if he leaves.  We know for a fact the coaching staff and athletic department do read these boards....and there has been enough negativity spewed around here regarding him and some of the players....to where a guy probably goes - WTF do these people expect?  What will be the climate around here if we actually miss an NCAA tourney (like North Carolina and UCONN have recently?).

You have got to be kidding me.

[reinko]

Funny you should say that considering your wife mentioned something to me about you leaving alot to be desired.  Then again that was a long time ago - If memory serves, I believe it was a Sunday morning after lots of drinking the night before.  I want to say July of 2004.  Maybe things have changed since then.  Hey when did you get married again?

Oh, now it gets personal. Well, maybe the board should know that you are the one who drinks on Sundays, err, leaves desire in lots of marriages, um, you are the one that a long time ago did things....ahhh....You suck, is what I am saying.

Uummmmm...what's going on here      

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Uummmmm...what's going on here      

Oh, now it gets personal. Well, maybe the board should know that you are the one who drinks on Sundays, err, leaves desire in lots of marriages, um, you are the one that a long time ago did things....ahhh....You suck, is what I am saying.

Funny you should say that considering your wife mentioned something to me about you leaving alot to be desired.  Then again that was a long time ago - If memory serves, I believe it was a Sunday morning after lots of drinking the night before.  I want to say July of 2004.  Maybe things have changed since then.  Hey when did you get married again?

Do you two know each other?

[WildBill77RT]

Uummmmm...what's going on here      

Sounds like FrennA and MUCam have a "history" 

[NersEllenson]

I do like how you are setting the stage for the "negative Scoopers drove Buzz away" line that you will undoubtedly spew if he does leave though.  Anything to deflect the blame off of your hero.

You have got to be kidding me.

I'm simply not naive enough to think that a guy with NO ties to the Milwaukee area, that has signficantly more ties to Oklahoma/Arkansas -couldn't easily be tempted to bolt MKE for either OU or Arkansas.  What would make it more difficult to leave (just my opinion), is if I perceive myself to be valued, appreciated, and revered by the fanbase at the school I coach at.  Sorry, but one way a coach can measure their value to a fanbase is message boards.  To say it would be the ONLY reason Buzz would leave would be naive....but I certainly don't think you can just dismiss the weight the court of public opinion carries with regard to a coaches decision to stay/go....i.e. Izzo at Michigan State not going to the Cavs.  Think that made it hard on him when they held a rally at the school to retain him????

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm simply not naive enough to think that a guy with NO ties to the Milwaukee area, that has signficantly more ties to Oklahoma/Arkansas -couldn't easily be tempted to bolt MKE for either OU or Arkansas.  What would make it more difficult to leave (just my opinion), is if I perceive myself to be valued, appreciated, and revered by the fanbase at the school I coach at.  Sorry, but one way a coach can measure their value to a fanbase is message boards.  To say it would be the ONLY reason Buzz would leave would be naive....but I certainly don't think you can just dismiss the weight the court of public opinion carries with regard to a coaches decision to stay/go....i.e. Izzo at Michigan State not going to the Cavs.  Think that made it hard on him when they held a rally at the school to retain him????

The court of public opinion wants him to be here....95% strong.  If a coach were to leave because of mild, and I do mean MILD, criticism than he should get into another line of work.  You are too emotionally vested in defense of this guy where you take everything so personally as an attack.  Even straight up criticism that is completely fair and valid.  Buzz is a big boy and I'm sure his skin is thicker than you are giving him credit for.

[willie warrior]

Well Willie..we know Buzz reads this board..and if he reads your posts...we know you wouldn't have him here...so...therein lies your answer.  You and about 10-20% of other posters here have voiced displeasure..and on a consistent basis...so maybe MU won't have Buzz.

Never said I did not want him here. I have repeatedly said that we need to see what happens next year. Hope you can read Mr. Ners, because that is what I have said. I have also said that there are still questions, in particlular the downward trend of conference record, the missing of a number of big time recruits, not keeping up with many BEast schools in recruiting, the continued scheduling of cupcakes, the down ward trend in defense, etc. Yes we made the dance this year, and I am happy about that, but even our seeding has been going down, and most of the talking heads experts agree that this year is a down year for College basketball--no question about it--and we barely made the dance as an 11 seed. Next year will be his 4th year, his players will all be seasoned, so all the excuses will be eliminated. If he is doing the right things, we should see a signigicant improvement in our record, both overall and conference. And then the right long term decision can be made.

[Skatastrophy]

Now about that circle-jerk.  Was that a competition because I think I won.