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Author Topic: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job  (Read 18799 times)

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2011, 12:14:58 PM »
Mike Anderson would probably be the first call from Arkansas is what he is saying....which does make it seem more like his tweets are just the local speculation down in Arky.

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2011, 12:18:04 PM »
Ark is 18-10, 7-7 in conference and just beat Kentucky last week.  They also beat Vandy this year.  Are they that upset with Pelphrey?

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2011, 12:22:46 PM »
The ridiculousness of trying to translate this sentence is why twitter sucks

+1 or whatever the maximum number of pluses one can give.

Twitter also sucks because it creates unnecessary, unwarranted, and almost always unsubstantiated stories

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2011, 12:26:29 PM »
Twitter is good for breaking news.  And it isn't that hard to translate what he said:

What he said:

If ark fires PELL-IF then MA of Mizzou 1st call Buzz Williams would love 2b involved, there will b speculation about JD as AD was at Pitt

What it means:

If Arkansas fires Pelphrey, and that's a big if, then Mike Anderson of Missouri would be their first call.  Buzz Williams would love to be involved.  There would be speculation about Jaimie Dixon since the current Athletic Director used to be at Pitt.

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2011, 12:26:57 PM »
I thought Buzz said he was going to stay at MU as long as MU wanted him to stay. :)

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It would seem very uncharacteristic of Buzz to leave. As it stands today, I still 100% take him for his word.

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2011, 12:28:09 PM »
Isn't this the same Doug Gottlieb that said MU wouldn't make the tourney just prior to last year's Senior Day loss?

Would have loved to see his face when that #6 popped up on SS (although, a fat lot of good that did for us).
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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2011, 12:32:29 PM »
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/88881442.html

This is what he said 345 days ago.   Rohrshach test blot.   Either you believe him or you don't. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2011, 12:35:13 PM »
I wouldn't hang my hat on that


I can cite a boatload of times coaches have said they are staying at their current job and then turn around the next day or week and head off.

We just won't know until his character is revealed by his actions.


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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2011, 12:36:47 PM »
I wouldn't hang my hat on that


I can cite a boatload of times coaches have said they are staying at their current job and then turn around the next day or week and head off.

We just won't know until his character is revealed by his actions.



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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2011, 12:59:57 PM »
I hope Buzz is here a long, long time. The only job I would actually encourage him to take when it becomes available is the one in Bloomington. I can't think of anything I'd enjoy more, in fact.


When this happens, I'm in for contributing toward a new banner.
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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2011, 01:14:58 PM »
This is a biased remark, but I just don't think you leave this conference right now to go coach in the SEC unless you are going to Kentucky. The Big East is just that strong right now.
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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2011, 01:18:38 PM »
Hog fans on Buzz:

http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=392251.0

I'm now dumber, for having read that.  Ughhh...SEC fans give me a headache.

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2011, 01:19:43 PM »
Maybe they did, but I do not remember MU extending Buzz's contract. You also have Father Wild leaving. Buzz said he would stay as long as MU wanted him, but if they are not extending his contract what does that say about MU wanting him?

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2011, 01:27:19 PM »
Am I missing something on Arkansas?  They are completely irrelevant to me when I think about college hoops.  They are one of the last teams I think of if I had to name all the SEC teams.  They were good 15-20 years ago, but I never hear of them doing anything.

They would be very, very lucky to have Buzz.  However, no way would Buzz do that.  

My prediction, Buzz will be here as long as we will have him as long as we are in the Big East, unless Texas comes calling.  

There are very few schools where Buzz would legitimately go.

Big Ten-  Maybe MSU, but I would guess they would be a within the family type of school if Izzo left.  Indiana will not be coming back to MU after they get tired of Crean's act.  No other school is that much better than MU.  Remember when Iowa thought he would go there?

B12-  I think it is only Texas.  I don't think he goes to Baylor/TAMU/Texas Tech.  We're lucky Bill Self is young, but who knows if they would come to Buzz anyway.  There is no decision if Kansas called Buzz and no one would blame him.

SEC- Maybe FL.  He has to take the KY job, but Calipari is there for the longrun IMO.  I can't really see Arkansas happening.

ACC-  Duke/UNC will likely only hire within their family.

I can't imagine Buzz going to another BE school.  MU would ask for a huge number on the buyout.

People are always going to speculate.  Remember, we speculated on people like Bruce Weber or Bob Knight to come here when Crean did us a favor in April 2008.  

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2011, 01:28:43 PM »
Chicos and Ners post on the Arkansas boards too? Is that where they met up during their "vacation?"

I really want to believe Buzz when he says he's here as long as we will have him, but situations may change. I hope he's here for the long haul.

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2011, 01:33:50 PM »
This is a biased remark, but I just don't think you leave this conference right now to go coach in the SEC unless you are going to Kentucky. The Big East is just that strong right now.

This can work both ways though.  A coach might see the SEC as a wide open conference where it's easier to succeed.
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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2011, 01:38:44 PM »
Don't forget, Buzz would have to be a whole different person if we were to become a state actor.  Tax payers cannot pay for a coach to spread God's Word at a public school.  MU fits Buzz like a glove in that respect.

Arkansas makes less and less sense the more I think about it.  These last three years have been tough without having two recruiting classes.  Why would Buzz want to make a parallel move and build up a program again?  He finally has his program developed, and why start back at the bottom.  Crean was in the same spot where he had just built up a program and it was ready to just roll along.  However, rightfully so, "it's Indiana."  You just have to take that job.  Arkansas is not even close in my opinion.  

Buzz may leave some day, but why not wait for the absolute perfect job?  There is no reason to bounce around all the time, especially if he is getting paid well.

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2011, 01:49:51 PM »
Am I missing something on Arkansas?  They are completely irrelevant to me when I think about college hoops.  They are one of the last teams I think of if I had to name all the SEC teams.  They were good 15-20 years ago, but I never hear of them doing anything.

They would be very, very lucky to have Buzz.  However, no way would Buzz do that.  

My prediction, Buzz will be here as long as we will have him as long as we are in the Big East, unless Texas comes calling.  

There are very few schools where Buzz would legitimately go.

Big Ten-  Maybe MSU, but I would guess they would be a within the family type of school if Izzo left.  Indiana will not be coming back to MU after they get tired of Crean's act.  No other school is that much better than MU.  Remember when Iowa thought he would go there?

B12-  I think it is only Texas.  I don't think he goes to Baylor/TAMU/Texas Tech.  We're lucky Bill Self is young, but who knows if they would come to Buzz anyway.  There is no decision if Kansas called Buzz and no one would blame him.

SEC- Maybe FL.  He has to take the KY job, but Calipari is there for the longrun IMO.  I can't really see Arkansas happening.

ACC-  Duke/UNC will likely only hire within their family.

I can't imagine Buzz going to another BE school.  MU would ask for a huge number on the buyout.

People are always going to speculate.  Remember, we speculated on people like Bruce Weber or Bob Knight to come here when Crean did us a favor in April 2008.  

Since you mentioned Bruce Weber...  what about Buzz to Illinois?  A lot of people in Champaign aren't real happy with Bruce right now.  He supposedly recruited a super class for next year, so it's not like Buzz (or any other coach) is starting there with nothing.

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2011, 02:01:43 PM »
How about Buzz to nowhere??  Whether true or not - the reality is, that from Gottleib's perspective - leaving MU for Arkansas would be an upgrade.  Unfortunately, this seems to be the perception many have with regard to the MU job - that it is a good job, but not a great job.  It is for that reason why I've always been so harsh on those who are critical of Buzz - and seem to think MU could land an established, accomplished, high major type of coach.

Illinois - not a chance Buzz would go there...its either Texas (Texas school) or MU - unless of course Buzz gets annoyed with some of the idiotic fans at MU.  As we all know, Buzz and staff read these boards...
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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2011, 02:09:30 PM »
Maybe they did, but I do not remember MU extending Buzz's contract. You also have Father Wild leaving. Buzz said he would stay as long as MU wanted him, but if they are not extending his contract what does that say about MU wanting him?

Wasn't Buzz's contract around 6 years or so?  If so, is it really appropriate to extend a contract after only 1/3 of it has been fulfilled?

I could see you making your point at this time next year, but we're still early into Buzz's tenure, not to mention this is the first year Buzz has had outside of TC's shadow (i.e. all his own recruits).

I'm sure extension has been pondered/discussed, but my guess is that Buzz still has a little work to do.

Don't forget, Buzz would have to be a whole different person if we were to become a state actor.  Tax payers cannot pay for a coach to spread God's Word at a public school.  MU fits Buzz like a glove in that respect.

Actually, I believe that in Arkansas preaching God's Word is a requirement, even at public schools... so long as you do so underneath a big tent, cry half the time, and pass 5-gallon "collection plates" every half hour.
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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2011, 02:10:22 PM »
If Buzz goes elsewhere because of what us morons write on MUScoop, then I probably don't want him here anyway.  I think he's a little tougher than that...

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2011, 02:11:02 PM »
Since you mentioned Bruce Weber...  what about Buzz to Illinois?  A lot of people in Champaign aren't real happy with Bruce right now.  He supposedly recruited a super class for next year, so it's not like Buzz (or any other coach) is starting there with nothing.

Why would they want Buzz and why would Buzz want them?  Illinois just needs to get all the recruits in Middle/Southern IL and pull kids out of Chicago every once in a while.  You don't get the 5-star studs automatically thinking that they should go there.  That program runs itself, and it has a ceiling without a Bill Self.  I don't see the match.

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2011, 02:12:46 PM »
Buzz should be happy to have a passionate fanbase here.  He wouldn't get blind support at any high major school.

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Re: Gottlieb tweeting that Buzz would be interested in Arkansas job
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2011, 02:16:23 PM »
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theIWB wrote: This rumor has been floating around for a while. When I first heard it a few weeks ago I dug in and found what I could. I can say, with certainty, that this is completely untrue.

Sounds like Buzz is/was closing in on a recruit and someone wanted some crap out there to derail the train.

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