I Hope Buzz leaves MU after this season

[RawdogDX]

So you think that a few fans on a message board will convince Buzz to uproot his family and leave a job that he would otherwise stay at? 
And you think other people need some perspective?

Why would you think the moderates would be swayed by the likes of willie warrior?
One of you is Olbermann and the other is Beck and everyone in the middle thinks you are both ridiculous. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

So you think that a few fans on a message board will convince Buzz to uproot his family and leave a job that he would otherwise stay at? 
And you think other people need some perspective?

Why would you think the moderates would be swayed by the likes of willie warrior?
One of you is Olbermann and the other is Beck and everyone in the middle thinks you are both ridiculous. 

+1

I guess that's why I don't get the title of the thread.  Ners clearly loves Buzz, has admitted a man crush on him.  That's fine.  He also loves MU.  So why would he hope that the guy he loves leaves the school he loves?  Weird.

[Lighthouse 84]

+1

I guess that's why I don't get the title of the thread.  Ners clearly loves Buzz, has admitted a man crush on him.  That's fine.  He also loves MU.  So why would he hope that the guy he loves leaves the school he loves?  Weird.

I agree.  I finally had a chance to read through this thread and I don't understand it.  One, the title alone should be enough to get Ners double secret probation.  Two, Buzz is doing a fine job for being here only a couple years.  Can't we agree that it takes a few years to truly see the quality of his coaching?  And three, CBB didn't turn this into a TC love thread.  I agree if the next several years are as good as we had the previous 9 years, that would be great.  Heck, I'll go so far as to say if we have a run as good as we had with either Al or Hank, I'd be ecstatic.  Did I just hijack the thread and turn it into an Al/Hank love affair?

[mu_hilltopper]

So you think that a few fans on a message board will convince Buzz to uproot his family and leave a job that he would otherwise stay at? 
And you think other people need some perspective?

Why would you think the moderates would be swayed by the likes of willie warrior?
One of you is Olbermann and the other is Beck and everyone in the middle thinks you are both ridiculous. 

Game, set, match.

[Tugg Speedman]

Despite rarely being able to put together a full 40 minute gameplan consistently against Top 25 teams

You do realize that the other team is also trying to win and sometimes they can overcome the best game plan.  The inability of a team to execute might, just might, have something to do with the other team and their talent, especially, as you say, when they are top 25 and we are on the road.

Or do you subscribe the the idea that MU has never lost a game in the 100 years we have been playing basketball.  Either we win or the coach is an idiot.

[Blackhat]

Great, we've now established that two teams are trying to win in a basketball game.. this thread gets better and better.

[StillAWarrior]

Great, we've now established that two teams are trying to win in a basketball game.. this thread gets better and better.

If you lived in Cleveland and followed the Cavs this year, this might be quite a revelation...

[Warriors10]

Unlike you, I don't want Marquette basketball to head back into the 90s.

[NersEllenson]

+1

I guess that's why I don't get the title of the thread.  Ners clearly loves Buzz, has admitted a man crush on him.  That's fine.  He also loves MU.  So why would he hope that the guy he loves leaves the school he loves?  Weird.

What part of sarcasm do you not understand?  Do I seriously need to put my Thread title in teal? 

So you think that a few fans on a message board will convince Buzz to uproot his family and leave a job that he would otherwise stay at? 
And you think other people need some perspective?

Why would you think the moderates would be swayed by the likes of willie warrior?
One of you is Olbermann and the other is Beck and everyone in the middle thinks you are both ridiculous. 

Sorry you see it that way...but head coaches are human too.  Yes, they probably have a thicker skin than most human beings - but at the end of the day coaches, like employees or anyone else like being appreciated - and certainly appreciate reasonable fanbase expectations.  I know for a FACT that part of Kevin O'Neill leaft MU was due to the criticism he received which largely resulted from inflated fanbase expectations. 

I guess the fact that I have gratitude and appreciation for Buzz - and choose to express it frequently, and not knee jerk over every loss - does make me lack perspective.  Majerus was practically run off from MU, ONeill saw TN as a better place to go, and Crean left for Indiana.  3 good coaches who all chose to leave MU.  Think if we want to retain a coach, it certainly would help for it to be known we value them.  Sometimes some posts/content here could make many wonder.

Another FACT - the current coaching staff does read this Board and the Scout site...and that comes straight from the mouth of a current coach on staff.

[MountainCreekHouse]

Honestly, making it to the big dance is something 200-teams around the ncaa NEVER get to experience. Buzz is 2-2.

When people have a winning team for years (just like MU) and then they start to lose, people freak out.
I.E. Notre Dame football...

[RawdogDX]

Would you stop acting like some sort of martyr!?!   Everyone here thinks that you go about showing your "gratitude and appreciation for Buzz" in a Duche-like manner.  
I explained to you, in my first response, what an appropriate "Why you should be thankful for Buzz" topic could contain (and should be titled).  The road to hell is paved with good intentions.  I, and a ton of other people, are trying to give you some advice on how to better execute your intentions.  

Believe me, I know a thing or two about coming off like an pretty boy without it being what I intended.  When everyone in the world tells you that you stink you don't just keep screaming about how it has only been a few hours since your last shower.
Now go sleep it off, take in what we are saying without demonizing us and try harder next time to remember that even people you think are extreme are still humans.

[groove]

What part of sarcasm do you not understand?  Do I seriously need to put my Thread title in teal? 
Sorry you see it that way...but head coaches are human too.  Yes, they probably have a thicker skin than most human beings - but at the end of the day coaches, like employees or anyone else like being appreciated - and certainly appreciate reasonable fanbase expectations.  I know for a FACT that part of Kevin O'Neill leaft MU was due to the criticism he received which largely resulted from inflated fanbase expectations. 

I guess the fact that I have gratitude and appreciation for Buzz - and choose to express it frequently, and not knee jerk over every loss - does make me lack perspective.  Majerus was practically run off from MU, ONeill saw TN as a better place to go, and Crean left for Indiana.  3 good coaches who all chose to leave MU.  Think if we want to retain a coach, it certainly would help for it to be known we value them.  Sometimes some posts/content here could make many wonder.

Another FACT - the current coaching staff does read this Board and the Scout site...and that comes straight from the mouth of a current coach on staff.

In that case, hey guys, can you fix the defense so it isn't complete crap? I'm sure you may even be able to find some books on defense in the library. Or, how about taking in a workshop.

[Blackhat]

[groove]

perfect. Now that wasn't so hard was it?

[warriors1965]

In Buzz We Trust.  Buzz and his staff are learning from these games (atleast I hope so).  Despite rarely being able to put together a full 40 minute gameplan consistently against Top 25 teams, I LOVE Buzz.  

Buzz and his staff are learning from these games?

What leads you to believe this?  Is the defense improving?  Is the late game play improving? 

[ChicosBailBonds]

What part of sarcasm do you not understand?  Do I seriously need to put my Thread title in teal? 
Sorry you see it that way...but head coaches are human too.  Yes, they probably have a thicker skin than most human beings - but at the end of the day coaches, like employees or anyone else like being appreciated - and certainly appreciate reasonable fanbase expectations.  I know for a FACT that part of Kevin O'Neill leaft MU was due to the criticism he received which largely resulted from inflated fanbase expectations. 

I guess the fact that I have gratitude and appreciation for Buzz - and choose to express it frequently, and not knee jerk over every loss - does make me lack perspective.  Majerus was practically run off from MU, ONeill saw TN as a better place to go, and Crean left for Indiana.  3 good coaches who all chose to leave MU.  Think if we want to retain a coach, it certainly would help for it to be known we value them.  Sometimes some posts/content here could make many wonder.

Another FACT - the current coaching staff does read this Board and the Scout site...and that comes straight from the mouth of a current coach on staff.

No, I didn't know it was sarcasm.

I'm pretty sure that the coaches would know if "we" (the Royal We) support them by attending games, donating money, paying him a hefty salary.  The fact that there are a bunch of MU fans that are on a message board talking about the program, warts and all, shows how much we support MU.  Maybe it's just me, but I think the coaches have a LOT thicker skin then you are giving them credit for.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Guys, It is time for a little change in perspective. Because MU has been televised so many times this year many friends and acquaintances have watched the Warriors and quite a few have contacted me about what an EXCITING team they are to watch! these are not Alums or Milwaukeans but folks living in other parts of the country mostly SO Cal and they look forward to watching OUR guys. Someone I grew up with,has lived in Boston for 20 years, happened to be in DC this weekend and for whatever reason( no relation to either team) took his kid to the MU/GU game. afterward he contacted me to relate what a good game it was and that i should be proud of our guys. Just some information of what I hear from random people who call or email me to prise our team
The sky is not falling

[Dr. Blackheart]

+1 Elephantraker

Mike Ditka once said: "If they stop talking about you, then you know you are in trouble." You think the crickets at the Allstate Arena or the lack of activity on the DePaul site makes Oliver Purnell feel welcomed? 

[mugrad2006]

+1 Elephantraker

Mike Ditka once said: "If they stop talking about you, then you know you are in trouble." You think the crickets at the Allstate Arena or the lack of activity on the DePaul site makes Oliver Purnell feel welcomed? 

I've got a good friend who is a native Chicagoan and absolute sports nut.  Can name the Bears starting lineup and what college they went to, always telling me what the Cubs needs to do to get over the hump.  He WENT to DePaul, but couldn't pick Mac Koshwal out of a lineup and didn't know who Purnell was when I told him I thought it was a good hire.

That pretty much sums up all you need to know about the state of DePaul bball.  Lets all be thankful for where we are right now folks, this team is a threat to win on any given night, home or away.

[Goose]

I seldom post on this site because more times than not I am accused of being anti Buzz or anti MU. I have been an MU fan since 1968 and loved every minute of it. That said, I do believe MU sells itself short and walks a fine line between success and failure. Buzz has exceeded my expectations for him, but admit the bar was set extremely low. Each year it seems to me that program and school go in with fingers crossed praying we do not end up on the bottom of the BE. That scares me.

Often I hear MU alums, which I also am, debate on why MU is better school than our rivals and we are on higher moral ground. I cannot take that side of the argument 100% of the time. We use academic standards as a source of pride and built in excuse. To me MU is probably looked upon as an above average school with top 50 program by the rest of the country.

Posters have told me that MU can never repeat the 70's and to some degree that is true. The world has changed. However, it does anger me that nationally more "casual" fans respect the Gonzaga or Butler programs to ours. Again, in my opinion we do not market the school, conference or program to a national audience. Because of that area alone I did not think Buzz was the right guy.

I would not want him to go because our search would include the usual non basketball people and finding a guy is tough. Love or hate TC or KO they had the skills to sell MU nationally. Unfortunately the overall culture of school and program handcuffed them

[NersEllenson]

Would you stop acting like some sort of martyr!?!   Everyone here thinks that you go about showing your "gratitude and appreciation for Buzz" in a Duche-like manner.  
I explained to you, in my first response, what an appropriate "Why you should be thankful for Buzz" topic could contain (and should be titled).  The road to hell is paved with good intentions.  I, and a ton of other people, are trying to give you some advice on how to better execute your intentions.   Believe me, I know a thing or two about coming off like an pretty boy without it being what I intended.  When everyone in the world tells you that you stink you don't just keep screaming about how it has only been a few hours since your last shower.
Now go sleep it off, take in what we are saying without demonizing us and try harder next time to remember that even people you think are extreme are still humans.

Think you need to chill out dude.  You sure seem to speak on behalf of "everyone."  If you choose to put yourself in the category of the 10-15 people on this board I've "demonized," that's your issue.  4 or 5 people in this thread "agreeing" with you does not equate to "everyone."  Do you want me to say that the 30 or so others who haven't complained about me in this thread agree with me?  And regarding me needing to treat the people I think are "extreme," more humanely - let's be real - those "humans" are the ones slinging insults toward 18 year old kids and our coaching staff.  

Lastly, you know what is really douchey??  Telling someone they need to take your advice..."Hey man, you need to take my advicce - I know we've never met before...but I'm telling you..this is how it is..because I am Mr. Know it All."

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Wow, where to start with this...

Horrendous thread title.  There's NO WAY that thread title conveys sarcasm.  It could easily have been posted by Willie, M65, NMB, etc.

Ners, I drank as much of the Buzz kool-aid as anyone but I'm not getting baited by some of the negativos who post here.  The vast silent majority of Marquette fans are solidly behind Buzz at this stage of his tenure.

RawdogDX makes a pretty good point in a slightly-snotty way. Consider it.

[Tugg Speedman]

WVU blew a second half lead and lost to Syracuse tonight.

Since I'm an avid reader here, I know how it works ... Any team that has a second half lead must win the game or their coach is a poor game coach and makes poor half-time adjustments.  If he's not fired, at the very least, he must hire an assistant coach that can teach and run the defense.

What am I missing?

[smrunner99]

I did not see the game, but if WVU missed any free throws, then I say you are on to something.

[Golden Avalanche]

WVU blew a second half lead and lost to Syracuse tonight.

Since I'm an avid reader here, I know how it works ... Any team that has a second half lead must win the game or their coach is a poor game coach and makes poor half-time adjustments.  If he's not fired, at the very least, he must hire an assistant coach that can teach and run the defense.

What am I missing?

This crap is getting tired.