I guess we'll find out...

[NavinRJohnson]

if the BE, and MU in particular really did get screwed. We are still talking about upper half seeds for each team (OK VIllanova is a 9, but what's the difference). We aren't talking about expecting a 6 and getting a 12, or expecting a 4 and getting an 8. We are talking 1 or two lines. If the BE teams really were screwed, they all have a chance to prove it. I understand it makes for a tougher first round match-up, etc, and I understand the problem associated with the 2nd round games, having to play in NC, etc. I get that, but if we are better than an 8 seed, we should survive MSU and have an opportunity to give UNC our best shot.

Just getting to the Sweet 16 doesn't do much for me personally - what I mean by that is, at some point you have to beat the big boys. If we can manage a win in our second game, it theoretically, only gets easier from there.

[Mayor McCheese]

theres a HUGE difference between a 6 and 8....  Here are the differences

if you are an 8, you are playing a 9 instead of being a 6 and playing an 11
if you are an 8 and win your first game... you get to play a 1 seed, not only that but a one seed placed in an area which is real close to home, for MU's instance, UNC's backyard...  a 6 and you play a 3... or 14(some 14's do win)
if you are a 6 seed, looks better for recruits than an 8 seed

I guess thats all I have... but my 2nd point, about playing a 1, is enough to be upset

[ChicosBailBonds]

if the BE, and MU in particular really did get screwed. We are still talking about upper half seeds for each team (OK VIllanova is a 9, but what's the difference). We aren't talking about expecting a 6 and getting a 12, or expecting a 4 and getting an 8. We are talking 1 or two lines. If the BE teams really were screwed, they all have a chance to prove it. I understand it makes for a tougher first round match-up, etc, and I understand the problem associated with the 2nd round games, having to play in NC, etc. I get that, but if we are better than an 8 seed, we should survive MSU and have an opportunity to give UNC our best shot.

Just getting to the Sweet 16 doesn't do much for me personally - what I mean by that is, at some point you have to beat the big boys. If we can manage a win in our second game, it theoretically, only gets easier from there.

Let me just say that at this point we should be focused on MSU.  However, when 33 websites project us as a 5 seed and we come in as an 8 (along with a 21 RPI and a 14 SOS)...well that's getting screwed.  The 8 seed vs 5 is huge.  Hell, the 8 vs 7 is huge because of the second round matchup.  To deny that would be to deny reality.

Let's bring on MSU.  MU has a nice opportunity in front of them so let's take advantage of it.

[NavinRJohnson]

I understand all of that - specifically as it relates to the second round opponent. I guesss my point is, if we are that much better than an 8 seed, and that much better than MSU, as most people seem to want to argue, we should beat them rather easily. Same goes for ND, Louisville...