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GGGG

Quote from: ZiggysF*ckinFryBoy on January 26, 2011, 12:37:36 PM
your buddy.


OK...it's Jay Bee.

I'm amazed that the CS bloggers would allow him to be part of their group.  I don't think he wrote one intelligent basketball point on this board as long as I've been here.

DrDestiny911

Quote from: Pakuni on January 26, 2011, 12:52:19 PM
+1,000.
Anybody who analogizes college basketball to war needs to have their computer taken away.
That I'm glad to hear that calling players dogs who wet themselves is the kind of "needed criticism" that'll "right this ship and fast."

As I said the tone was harsh, but seriously it should be ok to say a team isn't doing well even if they are giving it their all, but frankly I'm not buying that, a couple might be putting their all in it but its not everyone on that team.

At no point am I comparing war to college basketball and if thats how you read that's on you. Point is that I'm pretty sure even with the petty name calling from CS, I think these young ball players can handle criticism and whether they read it or not they prolly don't care and if everyone hates the article so much why is it getting so much feedback. Negative feedback is still feedback.

Nukem2

The topic of this thread and the CW blog is the ultimate in lack of taste and sensibility.   SHAME...SHAME   

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Nukem2 on January 26, 2011, 01:14:33 PM
The topic of this thread and the CW blog is the ultimate in lack of taste and sensibility.   SHAME...SHAME   

/signed

RawdogDX


mu_hilltopper

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 26, 2011, 12:56:53 PM

OK...it's Jay Bee.

I'm amazed that the CS bloggers would allow him to be part of their group.  I don't think he wrote one intelligent basketball point on this board as long as I've been here.

Uh, no, JayBee is not a CS contributor.   

Pakuni

Quote from: DrDestiny911 on January 26, 2011, 01:05:17 PM
As I said the tone was harsh, but seriously it should be ok to say a team isn't doing well even if they are giving it their all, but frankly I'm not buying that, a couple might be putting their all in it but its not everyone on that team.

First, nobody is suggesting that any and all criticism should be (or is ... why not read the site?) off limits. Rather, the complaints are geared toward the nature and tone of the criticism. Saying a kid played poorly, didn't something incorrectly, needs to do something else better, etc., is and should be fair game. Likening kids to animals with bladder control issues shouldn't be.
Get it?

Secondly, please enlighten us on who isn't trying (and how you can tell).

MUfan12

Quote from: Pakuni on January 26, 2011, 01:36:47 PM
First, nobody is suggesting that any and all criticism should be (or is ... why not read the site?) off limits. Rather, the complaints are geared toward the nature and tone of the criticism. Saying a kid played poorly, didn't something incorrectly, needs to do something else better, etc., is and should be fair game. Likening kids to animals with bladder control issues shouldn't be.
Get it?

Secondly, please enlighten us on who isn't trying (and how you can tell).

Thank you.

I don't understand why this is so hard for some people to grasp.

DrDestiny911

Quote from: Pakuni on January 26, 2011, 01:36:47 PM

Secondly, please enlighten us on who isn't trying (and how you can tell).

Never said they weren't trying. I just feel that the term "giving it their all" is thrown around too much, if everyone was giving it their all we wouldn't have these late losses and the decline in production.

Lighthouse 84

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3. The Ardmore.                 9. Mugrack.
4. O'Donohues.                 10. Lighthouse.
5. O'Pagets.
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HoopsMalone

This headline is embarassing and immature.  It reflects poorly on MU which we all have a stake in.  I can't imagine it makes a recruit excited about MU.  It has fostered no good discussions about MU.  There is no point to having this post.


I appreciate the free speech on this site, but there is really nothing good about posts that look like it came from a immature high school sophmore.

SoCalwarrior

Quote from: HoopsMalone on January 26, 2011, 01:51:44 PM
This headline is embarassing and immature.  It reflects poorly on MU which we all have a stake in.  I can't imagine it makes a recruit excited about MU.  It has fostered no good discussions about MU.  There is no point to having this post.


I appreciate the free speech on this site, but there is really nothing good about posts that look like it came from a immature high school sophmore.

Again, this site subscribes to the blogs of Rosiak, Cracked Sidewalks and Go Marquette that are automatically added to MUScoop as a post. This particular post is from Cracked Sidewalks, a blog we like very much. We're not going to start censoring their content as well.  We'd much rather the discussion take place.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 26, 2011, 01:49:11 PM
Who is MUWarrior92 and what was he banned for?

that's chicos.  (the only CS blogger that doesn't put his real name out there.)

Lennys Tap

Quote from: SoCalwarrior on January 26, 2011, 02:01:49 PM
Again, this site subscribes to the blogs of Rosiak, Cracked Sidewalks and Go Marquette that are automatically added to MUScoop as a post. This particular post is from Cracked Sidewalks, a blog we like very much. We're not going to start censoring their content as well.  We'd much rather the discussion take place.

I love that Scoop brings us the blogs from all of these sources. Usually they are interesting and informative. This particularly distastful leap off the deep end reflects poorly only on its author. It's too bad - he's a smart guy. If he can get past his anger and sense of victimhood he has something to offer.

StillAWarrior

I'm going to give the author of this post the same treatment he gives our current coach:  I know him; I like him; I know that he's as big of a Marquette fan as any other poster on this board; I agree with a lot of what he says on this board and I even defend him quite a bit; but this article makes me squirm.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

jmayer1

Looks like he changed the title of the article.  I was fine with most of the content, I just thought the title lacked some class by basically calling our players names, and I posted as much in the comments section.

GGGG

Quote from: ZiggysF*ckinFryBoy on January 26, 2011, 02:14:54 PM
that's chicos.  (the only CS blogger that doesn't put his real name out there.)


Oh...OK.

So JB and CBB got banned?  I can live with that.

brewcity77

Chicos changed the title on CS, could the mods do the same here?

New Title: Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 26, 2011, 04:27:44 PM

Oh...OK.

So JB and CBB got banned?  I can live with that.

And Ners too (see Reply #14).  A two week vacation.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

SoCalwarrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 26, 2011, 04:39:37 PM
Chicos changed the title on CS, could the mods do the same here?

New Title: Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.

Sure

brewcity77


mwbauer7


This post (and accompanying CS blog entry) really strikes me the wrong way.

Pulling out quotes from UNO fans when Buzz bounced for MU? Really? C'mon.

I thoroughly enjoy the majority (all, until I read this) of contributors to CS, but my advice to the blog owner is to not let this author discredit all of the hard work the rest of the intelligent CS contributors share with MU grads and fans. Keep it intelligent, or keep it off the CS site.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

I'm with the vast majority who dislike referring to our players as dogs.  IMO, they do a fine job representing the university.  However, I was at the game last night.  It DID seem like the effort was lacking from both the fans and the players. Can't put my finger on it but the whole BC seemed a little off.

chapman

Quote from: KC2016 on January 26, 2011, 07:09:18 PM
I'm with the vast majority who dislike referring to our players as dogs.

Unless it's Junkyard Dogs.

Les Nessman

Quote from: tower912 on January 26, 2011, 07:36:38 AM
344 D1 teams.   Two end the year with a win.   On any given night, at least 172 fanbases are unhappy.   Probably closer to 200, as several whine about the quality of a win.   I would like to expect a little maturity, a little evidence of a Jesuit education, from my MU brethren.    A loss does not reflect on you personally.   You are not somehow diminished today, unless you choose to tie your sense of self esteem to a bunch of young men who represent a university you once attended.    If you are ashamed of them, do you think that if they read this and realized that an MU education means nothing to some, that they would be ashamed of you and the way you react to the outcome of an athletic contest?     I feel ya, ATL MU.    We are lowering ourselves to an embarrassing level.  

Perfectly stated.

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