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You can't overcome officiating on top of a team, on top of a crowd, on top of them desperately wanting revenge.

Too many punches.

WellsstreetWanderer

Jimmy Butler missed every shot he took in the second. you can't overcome that anywhere

madtownwarrior

can't overcome horseshit officiating (in addition to JB have a BAD night)...

congrats ND with your "official assisted" win...

79Warrior

Quote from: madtownwarrior on January 22, 2011, 08:07:23 PM
can't overcome horsecrap officiating (in addition to JB have a BAD night)...

congrats ND with your "official assisted" win...

Please, the ref whining is a joke. did the ref's make butler miss every shot?????

Spaniel with a Short Tail

In the 2nd half, it seemed like every time ND went inside a foul was called while every time MU - including JFB - there was no whistle.  Just sayin'...

HoopsMalone

ND fans have reason to be disappointed in the inconsistencies too.  However, in the end it was unbelievable how unfair the disparity in the calls were in ND's favor.  Hopefully this will balance out for us in one of the games coming up where we get a lot of the calls.  Over the season, these types of things even out.

Please God, give us Notre Dame at MSG.


chren21

I refuse to blame the refs and I HATE hightower.  It was bad both ways but we FOLDED again. Plain and simple

NersEllenson

Quote from: elephantraker on January 22, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
Jimmy Butler missed every shot he took in the second. you can't overcome that anywhere

Jimmy had the same night he always has..so long as he isn't matched up against the Notre Dame bias.  There were at least 5 times he normally would get a foul call in the 2nd half..and he didn't get 1.  Reduce his shot attempts by 5..and pencil him in for 80% from the line and he finishes the game with 20 points on 4 of 8 shooting...which is almost a normal line for him..takeaway 3 made 3's
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

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Golden Avalanche

Quote from: HoopsMalone on January 22, 2011, 08:24:27 PM
ND fans have reason to be disappointed in the inconsistencies too.  However, in the end it was unbelievable how unfair the disparity in the calls were in ND's favor.  Hopefully this will balance out for us in one of the games coming up where we get a lot of the calls.  Over the season, these types of things even out.

Please God, give us Notre Dame at MSG.

I agree with this. I don't think the officials were the class of their profession tonight on either end.

The difference came in the second half where it seemed the jump-shooting team suddenly got the majority of whistles whereas the penetration team couldn't draw a foul most times.

mumike22

Speaking of the officials - other than ol" eddie who were those other bozos - did not recognize either one? Did they borrow them from ball st or valpo?

Officials were bad on both ends but it seemed like they got a lot more calls down low. we usually thrive on drawing contact within 15ft of the hoop. You can see the difference in the fta stats...

mugrad2006

I'm still trying to figure out how we lost this game.  10 threes, minimal turnovers, decent but not great 2 pt shooting.   Surprising to see us get just blasted in FT differential, I guess that's the key to understanding this one.

Here's hoping the team uses this loss as fuel to crush the next couple of games.  Let's go MU!

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: mumike22 on January 22, 2011, 08:57:42 PM
Speaking of the officials - other than ol" eddie who were those other bozos - did not recognize either one? Did they borrow them from ball st or valpo?


One was Hansbrough's dad and the other was Brey's cousin.

mumike22

Ahh makes sense now - I couldn't tell from my seats but it did look like one of their jerseys was actually a mock turtleneck and the other was wearing black wranglers...

marquette99

It was bad - they just werrn't going to give us a call on a drive - BUT that why we practice so hard finishing even with contact.  Some of those no calls we could have finished the bucket.

Sink 3 of those and we win even with the no calls.

GGGG

So typical MUScoop...blaming the refs for the loss. 

Pathetic.

chren21

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2011, 10:58:48 PM
So typical MUScoop...blaming the refs for the loss. 

Pathetic.

I agree. Bad refs or not fact is we folded again. No one stepped up to the challenge on the road in a tuff atmosphere.

96warrior

I wouldn't pin this loss solely on bad reffing but there was some bad stuff tonight. No call when Otule got hammered in the face, ending up with a 3 for ND. Blocking call on Crowder when the ND guy very clearly dropped his shoulder, putting Jae in foul trouble. Bad reffing does matter. But it would be stupid to pin the loss solely on that.

HoopsMalone

We COULD have still won this game in spite of the refs.  It seems cowardly to say this even as a fan, but the refs really did hurt us.  I don't think there is any shame in admitting that the refs really shaped this game in ND's favor.

We will play about thirty games this year, and this one is the one where things don't go our way.  Hopefully it evens out against one of the top 10 teams we are playing in conference.  

It really hurt us when we basically had to let them have lay-ups because any type of defense was a foul.  This was a really pathetic showing by the officials.  There was nothing we could do on defense besides hope they miss in a game like this.  Plus, when Jimmy goes up 1 against 3 with contact and gets nothing... well, I don't know what I would think as a player.

96warrior

Agree, HoopsMalone. We could have won this, and mostly I wanted to to prove the blowout we had wasn't a fluke. But it's hard to play our style of ball when the calls are so significantly biased. Buzz was all up in Hightower's grill and that probably didn't help, but can't blame Buzz for being frustrated. I was way more upset over the Loserville game. We folded in that one. We did not fold tonight. Shooting got cold, we had to lax up the D, but we didn't fold.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2011, 10:58:48 PM
So typical MUScoop...blaming the refs for the loss.  

Pathetic.

If 19 more FTs isn't a disparity and an incorrect call on a player (Jae) that leads to his ouster, than what is?
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GGGG

So according to your logic, when we make more FTs than the other team attempts, that means we are the beneficiaries of referee bias.

Got it.

MUfan12

That FT differential certainly wasn't from MU sitting back and shooting jumpers all day, I can say that.

It was a big time home job. We've seen 'em before, and we play in Madison next year, so we'll see it again.

It happens in college ball on the road. On to the next one.

willie warrior

Quote from: 96warrior on January 22, 2011, 11:21:27 PM
Agree, HoopsMalone. We could have won this, and mostly I wanted to to prove the blowout we had wasn't a fluke. But it's hard to play our style of ball when the calls are so significantly biased. Buzz was all up in Hightower's grill and that probably didn't help, but can't blame Buzz for being frustrated. I was way more upset over the Loserville game. We folded in that one. We did not fold tonight. Shooting got cold, we had to lax up the D, but we didn't fold.
In Buzz we trust: Louisville Meltdown
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

GGGG

Quote from: MUfan12 on January 23, 2011, 06:59:46 AM
That FT differential certainly wasn't from MU sitting back and shooting jumpers all day, I can say that.

It was a big time home job. We've seen 'em before, and we play in Madison next year, so we'll see it again.


That's what every team thinks.  Hopefully Buzz doesn't use such a pathetic excuse with his guys.

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