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ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: SalsaMan on October 26, 2010, 05:11:10 PM
And you call yourself a Catholic?
Didn't realize you had to be Catholic to go to MU...so no, I do not. 

mileskishnish72

MU had a coach at one time who valued the role players and didn't want a roster full of "stars" - and he did OK.

HoopsMalone

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 26, 2010, 05:04:33 PM

ESPN Chris Bryant Recruiting Profile


A 92 score is the same score Cadougan had and Juan Anderson has.  It is higher than Reggie Smith at 90 and EWill's 91. EWill and Cadougan both made ESPNU 100, but Anderson and Bryant have not made the list with the same or higher scores.

He could be a "high" three star borderline four star if that is the case. 


Skatastrophy

Quote from: HoopsMalone on October 27, 2010, 10:02:25 AM
A 92 score is the same score Cadougan had and Juan Anderson has.  It is higher than Reggie Smith at 90 and EWill's 91. EWill and Cadougan both made ESPNU 100, but Anderson and Bryant have not made the list with the same or higher scores.

He could be a "high" three star borderline four star if that is the case. 

This is why I leave recruiting sites quickly after I browse to them.  It seems that they're mostly arbitrary BS.  Too bad really.  It's a market space that's really open right now.  A good recruiting website would be gold in your front pocket.

bma725

Quote from: HoopsMalone on October 27, 2010, 10:02:25 AM
A 92 score is the same score Cadougan had and Juan Anderson has.  It is higher than Reggie Smith at 90 and EWill's 91. EWill and Cadougan both made ESPNU 100, but Anderson and Bryant have not made the list with the same or higher scores.

He could be a "high" three star borderline four star if that is the case. 

I would hold off on comparing the ESPN ratings between classes.  They have changed the grading scale a couple of times over the last few years, and the numbers don't mean the same thing.  If they were grading Anderson or Bryant on the same scale that they graded Junior, EWill or Reggie, those two guys would have significantly lower numbers.

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Quote from: bma725 on October 27, 2010, 10:37:01 AM
I would hold off on comparing the ESPN ratings between classes.  They have changed the grading scale a couple of times over the last few years, and the numbers don't mean the same thing.  If they were grading Anderson or Bryant on the same scale that they graded Junior, EWill or Reggie, those two guys would have significantly lower numbers.


Can we get a bma rating grading scale on our recruits, former and possibilities? Clearly, you are the most knowledgeable when it come to this, and you are the man.
Of course, you would come under way too much scrunity and pissing when people think otherwise around here though.

You're our only hope, Obi-Wan.

MarkCharles

Quote from: marqptm on October 27, 2010, 01:15:56 PM
Can we get a bma rating grading scale on our recruits, former and possibilities? Clearly, you are the most knowledgeable when it come to this, and you are the man.
Of course, you would come under way too much scrunity and pissing when people think otherwise around here though.

You're our only hope, Obi-Wan.

Although I agree BMA is insufferable with his constant "You're wrong, heres why" attitude, ESPN did change their grading scale this summer when they completely revamped their CBB recruiting section.

For comparison's sake, I would guess a 92 this year is about a 89 or 90 in years past (which is what Reggie was rated last year, somewhere in ESPN's 125-175 range)

Skatastrophy

Quote from: MarkCharles on October 27, 2010, 01:30:31 PM
Although I agree BMA is insufferable with his constant

How is it insufferable when BMA is always right?

I mean, it sucks when you're wrong, but deal with it.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: MarkCharles on October 27, 2010, 01:30:31 PM
Although I agree BMA is insufferable with his constant "You're wrong, heres why" attitude, ESPN did change their grading scale this summer when they completely revamped their CBB recruiting section.

For comparison's sake, I would guess a 92 this year is about a 89 or 90 in years past (which is what Reggie was rated last year, somewhere in ESPN's 125-175 range)
where did the OP say that he thought BMA was insufferable.  That's all you.

MarkCharles

ATL, I thought it was pretty clear from his post that marqptm is sick of BMA's attitude that I described in my post. He never specifically said the word insufferable, but it was clearly implied that hes sick of it.

And by the way skatastrophy, I didn't say anything that was wrong that BMA corrected me on. I actually defended BMA's point. And if you guys are going to pick apart my words, I never said it is insufferable that he is always right. In no way did I say that. At all. I said his attitude in doing nothing on this board but tell people they are wrong is tiresome.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: MarkCharles on October 27, 2010, 01:47:03 PM
And by the way skatastrophy, I didn't say anything that was wrong that BMA corrected me on. I actually defended BMA's point. And if you guys are going to pick apart my words, I never said it is insufferable that he is always right. In no way did I say that. At all. I said his attitude in doing nothing on this board but tell people they are wrong is tiresome.

Reading a bad attitude into BMA's recounting of facts is all in your head.

I've got nothing against you, I just disagree with you.  Do you need me to put hearts and teddy bears after my responses to you so that you know we're still best friends?

Shack

Quote from: marqptm on October 27, 2010, 01:15:56 PM
Can we get a bma rating grading scale on our recruits, former and possibilities? Clearly, you are the most knowledgeable when it come to this, and you are the man.
Of course, you would come under way too much scrunity and pissing when people think otherwise around here though.

You're our only hope, Obi-Wan.

My gaydar scale has your post rated a 99. 

Lighthouse 84

MarkCharles, you're assuming that Marqptm was being sarcastic with his comments about BMA being the be all end all.  Was that Marqptm's intent or did he mean it?  Yes, everyone takes what BMA says as gospel and very rarely questions what he says.  I don't think that's necessarily his fault as I don't read BMA's comments as being condescending at all or only telling people they're wrong.  He frequently responds to posters asking for his input.

I'm one of those on this board who has no idea who BMA is.  Maybe I missed that post.  So I'm in no way saying this to kiss his a$$.  But I'll keep reading BMA's comments and other poster's responses to determine if what he says pans out to be true.  More often than not, if you check on what BMA has said, he's right about what happened or will happened.
HILLTOP SENIOR SURVEY from 1984 Yearbook: 
Favorite Drinking Establishment:

1. The Avalanche.              7. Major Goolsby's.
2. The Gym.                      8. Park Avenue.
3. The Ardmore.                 9. Mugrack.
4. O'Donohues.                 10. Lighthouse.
5. O'Pagets.
6. Hagerty's.

HoopsMalone

The BMA post was in response to something I said and I didn't even think twice about it.

There are posters on here who seem to like trying to push other's buttons for some reason.  They nitpick people's posts and add nothing to the conversation.  There is a big difference between joking around and nitpicking what people say.  The jokes and the ball-busting are a great thing about this board.    

BMA never uselessly nitpicks when disagreeing, at least as far as I can recall.  He just brings up counterpoints.  

Being right means nothing to me, so I am happy to be corrected.  Hopefully no one comes on here to try to prove something to anyone, but rather have fun discussing something that we all care about and find entertaining.

StillWarriors

Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on October 27, 2010, 02:05:02 PM
 Yes, everyone takes what BMA says as gospel and very rarely questions what he says.  I don't think that's necessarily his fault as I don't read BMA's comments as being condescending at all or only telling people they're wrong.  He frequently responds to posters asking for his input.

I'm one of those on this board who has no idea who BMA is.  Maybe I missed that post.  So I'm in no way saying this to kiss his a$$.  But I'll keep reading BMA's comments and other poster's responses to determine if what he says pans out to be true.  More often than not, if you check on what BMA has said, he's right about what happened or will happened.

Lighthouse 84

HILLTOP SENIOR SURVEY from 1984 Yearbook: 
Favorite Drinking Establishment:

1. The Avalanche.              7. Major Goolsby's.
2. The Gym.                      8. Park Avenue.
3. The Ardmore.                 9. Mugrack.
4. O'Donohues.                 10. Lighthouse.
5. O'Pagets.
6. Hagerty's.

Litehouse

If you have problems with bma's posts, you should seriously consider giving up Internet message boards for good.

NersEllenson

Gotta love MUScoop!!  Where we can pretty much bust balls, talk a little smack, compare points, diagree, argue..and for the most part not be censored.

Can someone please start a poll on BMA's intentions on Scoop?  Are they to:

A) Inform
    or
B) To be a know it all and correct people when they are wrong?

My vote?? A - I have no problem being corrected when my recollection/memory/knowledge base is off with regard to MU basketball history...so, I've become better informed as a result of BMA's out of this world knowledge base on MU basketball history.
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

GOO

BMA brings some of the best info to this board.  BMA also brings almost the only inside info to this board with respect to recruiting.  I wouldn't knock BMA  He seems to know his stuff.

ZiggysFryBoy


Lighthouse 84

Markcharles, ball's in your court on this one.  Given that Marqptm didn't use teal in his "obi-wan" comments, he obviously agrees with the majority that BMA is the go to guy and not some insufferable guy with attitude as you make him out to be.
HILLTOP SENIOR SURVEY from 1984 Yearbook: 
Favorite Drinking Establishment:

1. The Avalanche.              7. Major Goolsby's.
2. The Gym.                      8. Park Avenue.
3. The Ardmore.                 9. Mugrack.
4. O'Donohues.                 10. Lighthouse.
5. O'Pagets.
6. Hagerty's.

mu-rara

BMA - *Ching*  (as in "money")

Mark Charles - not so much

How a that for poster rating?

TomW1365

Quote from: mu-rara on October 27, 2010, 03:16:04 PM
BMA - *Ching*  (as in "money")

Mark Charles - not so much

How a that for poster rating?

That's interesting... It would be cool to have a "like" or "dislike" button next to comments and posters... it would show how reliable/interesting of info generally comes from individuals (having a high % of positive comments).

Mobot

At one point, you could see how many people were ignoring a certain poster.  That is usually a pretty good indication.  I think they took that feature away earlier this year.

MarkCharles

Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on October 27, 2010, 03:14:26 PM
Markcharles, ball's in your court on this one.  Given that Marqptm didn't use teal in his "obi-wan" comments, he obviously agrees with the majority that BMA is the go to guy and not some insufferable guy with attitude as you make him out to be.
Tough for me not to see sarcasm here....

"Clearly, you are the most knowledgeable when it come to this, and you are the man.
You're our only hope, Obi-Wan."

If I am wrong, then I apologize, but not using teal is hardly conclusive.

I definitely appreciate BMA's info, which I have never questioned the validity of, and concede that it seems like he remembers MU basketball history like it just happened. He is certainly of value here, and boards like this need people who have their facts straight.

Maybe I am reading too much into his posts, and maybe this is because I haven't been here all that long, but I have rarely seen him say anything except to tell people they are wrong, usually with a hint of condescension. And its not usually people soliciting his knowledge as some are saying. Judging by the reaction to my comment, not many people share my view and I very well could be completely off base. If so, my bad.

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