sunday sports, page 2

[hojm]

Anyone catch the first letter to the sports page on pg 2 of today's Journal?  What a disjointed bunch of nonsense.  How dare the Marquette haters not support money making Wisconsin sports.  What a joke, and oh by the way Bret Bielema is a great coach.

[HoopsMalone]

what did it say?  link?

[cheebs09]

I didn't realize being 40 and single meant hooking up with college girls at the university you coach at. I read that and found it pretty funny. If the stands are full as she says, is there really a dire need for us MU Badger-haters to convert? Are we supposed to shell out some cash to sport UW's colors even though we didn't go there?

[MUEng92]

And what is wrong with those Bear and Viking fans living in Wisconsin.  Why aren't they paying to have Packer license plates on their cars?  Haters. But wait, maybe, just maybe...THEY ARE HATERS!   What is the problem with that?

[Admiral Ackbar, S.J.]

Here is the text of the letter since JS doesn't post them online:

Bielema is great

I think Bret Bielema is a great coach. The team is winning and the stands are full. Yes, there will always be envious fans of his (my husband) who would love to coach the Badgers and enjoy the perks of being 40 and single! It is the haters we can do without. The most negative comments I hear and read are from Marquette fans who refuse to support Wisconsin football. In this treacherous economy, everyone should support income-generating sports in Wisconsin.

Unfortunately, the haters will never be satisfied.

Carolyn Peters
Milwaukee

[MUfan12]

Here is the text of the letter since JS doesn't post them online:

Bielema is great

I think Bret Bielema is a great coach. The team is winning and the stands are full. Yes, there will always be envious fans of his (my husband) who would love to coach the Badgers and enjoy the perks of being 40 and single! It is the haters we can do without. The most negative comments I hear and read are from Marquette fans who refuse to support Wisconsin football. In this treacherous economy, everyone should support income-generating sports in Wisconsin.

Unfortunately, the haters will never be satisfied.

Carolyn Peters
Milwaukee

I'm going to cut that out and carry it with me. That way, when some moron asks how I can't root for the "state team" I already have an answer in their own words.

[HoopsMalone]

haha.  That was hilarious.  Do they realize how many people from MU come from Chicago and the Twin Cities?  Why should those people root for the Badgers.  It is not the homogenous group that Wisco is. 

Iowa gave that game away on the missed extra point, botched hold on the FG, misusing timeouts, many dropped passes, and not covering the fake punt.  They may be overestimating how good their team is.  Basically, Wisco played their best game and Iowa played a below average game. 

I am a Big Ten football fan, and we made some nice progress last year with Ohio State and Iowa winning their BCS bowl games.  I am worried about Wisconsin getting a bid and getting waxed in the Rose Bowl or other bowl.  Then we are back to the slow, boring, second rate Big Ten football reputation.

[GGGG]

Does Carolyn Peters understand that the income generated by the football team, likely does nothing to allieviate the financial issues that Wisconsin residents face?  Laughable...

I think if I were Mr. Peters, I would wish I were single too.

[HoopsMalone]

Will we see Carolyn Peters at the BC supporting the local economy by buying a shirt saying "It was the Butler, at the Bradley Center, with a basketball" this winter? 

Should we expect a similar article about supporting our income generating games and the affect it has on local businesses in Milwaukee?

[OhioGoldenEagle]

This is the unfortunate mentality behind government funded programs/institutions.  "The stands aren't full so let's mandate that non-fans pay to go".  Ha!  What a crock!  These myopic badger loons never seize to amaze me!

[MUFC9295]

"In this treacherous economy, everyone should support income-generating sports in Wisconsin."

Not to mention the paltry income Badger football generates, but look at the resources it consumes for... just football.  No, I don't care to debate how sports programs are a marketing tool for universities.  I just want to point to UW's consumption of resources in a belt-tightening cycle.  The budget is online as well.

MADISON, Wis. -- Wisconsin athletic officials are asking for a $76.8 million athletic performance center in the next two-year state budget, five years after a $109.5-million expansion of Camp Randall Stadium.

The University of Wisconsin System Board of Regents will review the request Thursday.

The proposal includes a new multistory building used primarily for football with new locker rooms and weight training facilities for all athletes.

The Regents agreed to a similar $67.2 million plan in the last budget cycle two years ago, but it was spiked by state officials in the approval process.

The proposal includes money to update the sound system and scoreboards at Camp Randall, add new locker rooms for other athletic teams and replace the FieldTurf installed six seasons ago.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5474330


When I lose my job, I'll be relieved to know the scoreboard is in HD.  

[Benny B]

So is Mrs. Peters really OK with her husband's desire to be 40 and single (and doing all those other things Bielema likes to do)?

How many guys would be OK if their wife came up and said, "I wish I could sleep around and drink and party all night like Paris Hilton?"  And... how many of them would write a letter to the editor stating such.


Can anyone name a university where a greater delta exists between its academic standards and the intellect of its fans?

[ChicosBailBonds]

So is Mrs. Peters really OK with her husband's desire to be 40 and single (and doing all those other things Bielema likes to do)?

How many guys would be OK if their wife came up and said, "I wish I could sleep around and drink and party all night like Paris Hilton?"  And... how many of them would write a letter to the editor stating such.


Can anyone name a university where a greater delta exists between its academic standards and the intellect of its fans?

I was going to say the same thing...but add in that he's 40 years old and a complete asshat douche in Madison and there are a number of Madisonians that agree.  Of course now that they are winning this year, they aren't quite as concerned about that.  His convertible riding days down state street....never mind.

As for Mrs. Peters, if you're so concerned with the economy in Wisconsin and whether Marquette fans are supporting UW, you may want to dig a little deeper into your state's welfare attitude that gets all it's energy from Madison in the form of state gov't.   You may also want to look at the expenditures of the UW-madison athletic department, the pensions that the taxpayers are paying for the coaches, etc, etc.

[77ncaachamps]

Let's throw this one back in the time machine...

"McGuire is great

I think Al McGuire is a great coach. The team is winning and the seats are full. Yes, there will always be envious fans of his (my future husband) who would love to coach the Warriors and enjoy the perks of being 50 and happily married! It is the haters we can do without. The most negative comments I hear and read are from Wisconsin fans who refuse to support Marquette Basketball. In this treacherous economy, everyone should support income-generating sports in Wisconsin.

Unfortunately, the haters will never be satisfied.

Carolyn Peters
Milwaukee"

There. Fixed.

[GGGG]

"In this treacherous economy, everyone should support income-generating sports in Wisconsin."

Not to mention the paltry income Badger football generates, but look at the resources it consumes for... just football.  No, I don't care to debate how sports programs are a marketing tool for universities.  I just want to point to UW's consumption of resources in a belt-tightening cycle.  The budget is online as well.

MADISON, Wis. -- Wisconsin athletic officials are asking for a $76.8 million athletic performance center in the next two-year state budget, five years after a $109.5-million expansion of Camp Randall Stadium.

By the way, they are not asking the state for money here.  They are asking for permission to spend gift and athletic department revenue on this project.

[Skatastrophy]

By the way, they are not asking the state for money here.  They are asking for permission to spend gift and athletic department revenue on this project.

If they're asking for it to be on the State's budget then it's the State's revenue, right?  I don't understand.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

It's the people's republic....it's how we roll here.

[GGGG]

If they're asking for it to be on the State's budget then it's the State's revenue, right?  I don't understand.

It is money that the athletic department raises through donations, or money they generate through ticket sales, etc.  Legally, the state owns the money, but it isn't money that can go for things like property tax relief or anything.  So if the Legislature denies the spending authority, the money will likely simply accumulate until they eventually give permission.

IMO they may as well authorize it now while building rates are dirt cheap.

[LovinMUbBall]

I read this and had to chuckle. I don't want to stereotype a woman, but does she understand rivalry? I myself happen to be huge fan of both schools, and I don't get offended when fans of either school rag on each other. Sure some of the arguments are stupid or over-exaggerated, but rivalries tend to bring that out in people. When people rag on me for liking both bball teams, I don't get offended because I get to see almost 60 games a year (on tv) involving teams I love to cheer for.

[bobnoxious]

Makes sense to me, I regularly root for the Bears and Packers at the same time

[SacWarrior]

I actually grew up a Wisconsin football fan, but ever since coming to Marquette, and seeing Badger supporters up close and personal, I have become completely apathetic to college football in general.

Wisconsin fans have an amazing superiority complex. Not only are we viewed as the little brother school, we're often viewed as a non-existent school, based solely on not being Madison.

[SalsaMan]

Can anyone name a university where a greater delta exists between its academic standards and the intellect of its fans?

It sure isn't Wisconsin. They grossly overstate the relevance and importance of their academics. Two words: Ron Dayne

[Benny B]

It sure isn't Wisconsin. They grossly overstate the relevance and importance of their academics. Two words: Ron Dayne

We've already discussed that every university (except perhaps Ivy) bends the rules for athletes.  What I'm talking about is the academic reputation of the UW in general, as substantiated by ratings services such as US News, etc.

Listen... I detest Bucky as much as anyone, but I do recognize that it is a well-regarded institution across the nation.  Hence, my question as there seems to be a lot of red being worn by complete idiots on the autumn Saturdays in Wisconsin.

[MUBurrow]

I am anti UW more than anyone I personally know, but I think the chasm between the academic reputation and the fans is a common characterization.  Its just what happens when flyover states have one great public university. It allows all citizens of the state to identify with that University, no matter how antithetical they might be to the academics of the school, the political orientation of the city, etc.  (as much as I hate this phenomena, I do in large part owe my choice of MU to its annoyance and irritation)

I think that a list of other schools that exemplify this, in my perceived order of the size of the chasm might be:
1. Iowa
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. North Carolina
5. Georgia

[HoopsMalone]

I am anti UW more than anyone I personally know, but I think the chasm between the academic reputation and the fans is a common characterization.  Its just what happens when flyover states have one great public university. It allows all citizens of the state to identify with that University, no matter how antithetical they might be to the academics of the school, the political orientation of the city, etc.  (as much as I hate this phenomena, I do in large part owe my choice of MU to its annoyance and irritation)

I think that a list of other schools that exemplify this, in my perceived order of the size of the chasm might be:
1. Iowa
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. North Carolina
5. Georgia

I have lived in both Iowa and Wisconsin.  Univ of Iowa does not belong in the same breath as Wisconsin for overestimating itself academically and overall.  I found that most people have a realistic view of how good of a school Iowa is.  Top 100, solid undergrad school.  No one at UIowa thinks they are inherently better than Drake, Iowa State, or Northern Iowa in the way that UW people think that they are better than everyone else.

And the thing is, a resume from Iowa and a resume from Wisconsin go in the same middle pile in the stack of resumes, though only an Iowa grad would acknowledge that.