Opinions and sarcasm aside, why would football at Marquette cost $125 million?

[4everwarriors]

Count me in for $19.77

[Nukem2]

Perhaps MU should award an honorary degree to T. Boone Pickens...

[T-Bone]

Perhaps MU should award an honorary degree to T. Boone Pickens...

We have a winner.  Lock the thread.  Put the plans in motion.   

[reinko]

Paging MU Avenue.  Paging MU Avenue. 

Thoughts?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I don't poop without mu avenue's approval.

[MU Avenue]

I am looking for hard-and-fast numbers concerning the cost of renewing NCAA football at Marquette. That is all.

I have heard $100 million. Now I am hearing $125 million. Has anyone actually done the research or are these just loose, convenient guesses?

And to ZiggysFryBoy, please feel free to do whatever you or your body requires without my approval. (Was I supposed to understand your last comment?)

[reinko]

If you are looking for "hard and fast numbers", I have an idea.

Hire a frackin' research team yourself, to do an independent anaylsis.  Clearly, a message board is not the research tool that will suffice at all in this matter.

Be gone pal.

[4everwarriors]

I don't poop without mu avenue's approval.

I always knew you were full of it.

[mviale]

It would only cost $7m a year to finance that $125m.

Lets do it

[reinko]

It would only cost $7m a year to finance that $125m.

Lets do it

With this logic, God how did the USA get $13,474,084,254,213 into debt...

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

/apolitical

[MU Avenue]

If you are looking for "hard and fast numbers", I have an idea.

Hire a frackin' research team yourself, to do an independent anaylsis.  Clearly, a message board is not the research tool that will suffice at all in this matter.

Be gone pal.

Thanks for the deep insight and the constructive advice, reinko. You clearly are one of the real thinkers on this site.

Frackin'?

As I have written earlier, I am looking for information from people in the know, not from blowhards who offer only emotional, sarcastic, meaningless tripe.

Frackin'?

My request for information is serious and respectful of the fact that bringing NCAA football back to Marquette would he a huge undertaking.

Frackin'?

If you know nothing about the topic, why enter the discussion?

Frackin'?

[Tugg Speedman]

Not to go off on a tangent ... but another reason that MU cannot/should not field a football team (among a list of thousands) is that college football is now a regional sport.  All the top teams are in the south.  All the north has is Ohio State (which would be, what, the fifth best program in the SEC?) and a bunch of delusional fans that think they are competitive.  

See the Wisc/ASU game yesterday ... in three weeks Wisc. will no longer be ranked and never had any business being ranked.  They simply cannot compete with schools that have good weather in football and never will.  Iowa lost to a school with good weather last night ... they're done.

College football has the same geography as NASCAR.    

[reinko]

It's called a language filter chief.

And no, I don't have anything of value to add to your discussion, but many posters, including some very respected ones (bma to name one) have opined and made strong guesses about the startup costs, yet you just to continue to belabor the point.  Again, if you want some kind detailed report on the matter, MUScoop is not the research entity you need.  In stead of relying on others, here is an idea.  YOU ACTUALLY LOOK INTO IT, and report back here.  People would respect that.  Don't rely on others to do this work, you care, put a couple hours into it.

And once again, if you don't want blowhards, stay off the intertubes, talking about crap no one knows about is one of the major reasons it was invented.  That and porn.

[GGGG]

Not to go off on a tangent ... but another reason that MU cannot/should not field a football team (among a list of thousands) is that college football is now a regional sport.  All the top teams are in the south.  All the north has is Ohio State (which would be, what, the fifth best program in the SEC?) and a bunch of delusional fans that think they are competitive.  

See the Wisc/ASU game yesterday ... in three weeks Wisc. will no longer be ranked and never had any business being ranked.  They simply cannot compete with schools that have good weather in football and never will.  Iowa lost to a school with good weather last night ... they're done.

College football has the same geography as NASCAR.    

You're nuts.  The B10 is just as strong as any conference in the country, and with the addition of Nebraska, gets even stronger.  There are basically three good teams in college football this year...Alabama, Ohio State and Boise.  The rest are very mediocre.

And I'd really like to hear, outside of Alabama, what SEC schools are better than OSU?

[MUBurrow]

The Big 10 definitely is not as strong as any other conference in the country top to bottom. SEC is certainly the best again, and I would contend that great arguments could be made for the Pac 10 and Big 12 as well.  But that doesnt mean that OSU isnt one of the best teams in the country either. (I think they are overrated... again. But its too early for me to give you objective and definitive proof thats the case)  Its an overall competitiveness issue

[Tugg Speedman]

And I'd really like to hear, outside of Alabama, what SEC schools are better than OSU?

Heard is B10 country ever September "You're nuts.  The B10 is just as strong as any conference in the country'  The problem is this is never heard in November.

Iowa lost to Arizona, they on their way out of the rankings.  Wisc played like a team that has no business being ranked yesterday.  Michigan should fall out after its pitiful performance against Umass.  Nebraska is a B12 team so don't count them until they get into the conference.

The B10 is as overrated in football as ND.  It is actually a better bball conference but ranks behind the BE and ACC.

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"Outside of Alabama, what Schools are better than OSU?"  Here is a list (and remember I said "program" not what team happens to be better after 3 non-conference cupcakes in the 2010 season)

The 12 Most Valuable Teams in NCAA Football
http://www.businesspundit.com/the-12-most-valuable-teams-in-ncaa-football/

1. Texas Longhorns = $119 million
2. Notre Dame Fighting Irish = $108 million
3. Pennsylvania State Nittany Lions = $99 million
4. Nebraska Cornhuskers = $93 million
5. Alabama Crimson Tide = $ 90 million
6. Florida Gators = $88 million
7. Louisiana State Tigers = $68 million
8. Ohio State Buckeyes = $58 million
9. Georgia Bulldogs = $45 million
10. Oklahoma Sooners = $40 million
11. University of Michigan Wolverines
12. South Carolina Gamecocks

For those keeping score at home ... the SEC has 5 teams, the B10 three.  According to this list OSU would be fourth in the SEC with Georgia right behind it.  I said fifth I'll stand behind it with research to back it up.

In a few years when Nebraska joins the B10, it will have 4 of the top 12 schools.  And when Texas and Oklahoma join the SEC, they will have 7. (ND will be the only non B10 or SEC school).

Oh, places that snow that are in the top 12 = 5 (ND, PSU, Neb, OSU and Mich)

... How do you know if you're at a "real" college football game?  They think "Junior" is Dale Earnhardt Jr, Not Ken Griffey Jr.

[GGGG]

That's a lot of words to not answer the question I asked.  I didn't ask for some blogger's perceived "value" of football programs, because how anyone could state that Notre Dame has a better football program than Ohio State simply has a faulty metric.

[Tugg Speedman]

That's a lot of words to not answer the question I asked.  I didn't ask for some blogger's perceived "value" of football programs, because how anyone could state that Notre Dame has a better football program than Ohio State simply has a faulty metric.

Better = more value

[GGGG]

Yeah but OSU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ND...by any metric you want to use.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Thanks for the deep insight and the constructive advice, reinko. You clearly are one of the real thinkers on this site.

Frackin'?

As I have written earlier, I am looking for information from people in the know, not from blowhards who offer only emotional, sarcastic, meaningless tripe.

Frackin'?

My request for information is serious and respectful of the fact that bringing NCAA football back to Marquette would he a huge undertaking.

Frackin'?

If you know nothing about the topic, why enter the discussion?

Frackin'?

Again, if you are really interested in this topic, I think that there are well educated people around here who could help you put an estimate together.

But, the original tone of your post and subsequent demands aren't going to endear you to anybody.

If you really want some numbers, put together your estimations/rationale and have people around here review it for you. That would be a good way to start a serious conversation.

Demanding that somebody does your homework for you probably isn't going to work.

[MU Avenue]

Again, if you are really interested in this topic, I think that there are well educated people around here who could help you put an estimate together.

But, the original tone of your post and subsequent demands aren't going to endear you to anybody.

If you really want some numbers, put together your estimations/rationale and have people around here review it for you. That would be a good way to start a serious conversation.

Demanding that somebody does your homework for you probably isn't going to work.

I have simply asked more than once if anyone here has reliable numbers concerning the cost for Marquette to make a return to NCAA football.

I am not interested in people's opinions or tired attempts at being witty or sarcastic. I only want to know what others know about the true cost.

You have written that "the original tone of your post and subsequent demands aren't going to endear you to anybody."

Endear me? Gosh, thanks for the tip.

I am simply asking others here who have accurate information to share it. I do not recall asking anyone to do my "homework," whatever that means.

Gee, 2002MUalum, do you really think my questions have cost me some of my MUScoop buddies?

[reinko]

I have simply asked more than once if anyone here has reliable numbers concerning the cost for Marquette to make a return to NCAA football.

I am not interested in people's opinions or tired attempts at being witty or sarcastic. I only want to know what others know about the true cost.

You have written that "the original tone of your post and subsequent demands aren't going to endear you to anybody."

Endear me? Gosh, thanks for the tip.

I am simply asking others here who have accurate information to share it. I do not recall asking anyone to do my "homework," whatever that means.

Gee, 2002MUalum, do you really think my questions have cost me some of my MUScoop buddies?

I feel bad that you hate your life so much that you have to behave like this.

[MU Avenue]

I feel bad that you hate your life so much that you have to behave like this.

I simply want to know why people seem to think it would cost Marquette so much -- $125 million or more -- to bring back NCAA football.

Even if $125 million is close to accurate, which I doubt, Marquette would not have to pay the entire tab in one year.

I have no idea why a small faction here, who seem to have no information related to this topic, feel the need to analyze me for asking proper, respectful, pertinent questions.

This reinko fellow has written, "I feel bad that you hate your life so much that you have to behave like this."

Hate my life? Behave like what?

I just want someone with numbers to share them. Other than that, I am not interested in what reinko or others think of me or of the realistic notion that Marquette bring back NCAA football.

[Tugg Speedman]

Yeah but OSU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ND...by any metric you want to use.

Not true ... I listed one above, you're just having a hard time accepting the truth.

[GGGG]

Yes...you linked to a blogger with an opinion.  Whoohoooo...

But as I said, any opinion that has Notre Dame a better program than Ohio State is a bad one.  If you want to believe bad opinions go right ahead.  It wouldn't be your first time.