Illinois fans on Mike Shaw

[HoopsMalone]

http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=13399

A generic "nice visit" after the Bruce Weber in home.

Rumors from tweets suggest a decision coming soon. 

[MUEng92]

After reading that Illini board, are we sure MU is even recruiting Shaw?  I did not see MU even mentioned.  Guess Buzz shouldn't waste his time.

[Shanunu]

I've heard from a bunch of different sources that MU is still on Shaw and that all the schools that Shaw is considering are essentially equal. He wants to wait until after all his in-homes to make his decision.

[Aughnanure]

After reading that Illini board, are we sure MU is even recruiting Shaw?  I did not see MU even mentioned.  Guess Buzz shouldn't waste his time.

Why can't our board be that excited? We are a bunch of downers lately.

[MarkCharles]

I've heard from a bunch of different sources that MU is still on Shaw and that all the schools that Shaw is considering are essentially equal. He wants to wait until after all his in-homes to make his decision.

I think MUEng92 was being sarcastic...

[Aughnanure]

I think MUEng92 was being sarcastic...

I was about to point out the same thing...at least I hope we haven't gotten so pessimistic that we base other fans' boards mentions of us to judge whether we are recruiting well.

[duanewade]

Bruce Weber has become a train wreck and Illinois/Big Ten fans are some of the most delusional in the country.  

I mentioned before Bruce might have been cut loose if he hadn't a great recruiting class in hand at the end of last year when his team failed to make the tourney again.  His recruiting since Self has left has been below par and so have his teams performances.  Watching him on the sidelines with a constant scowl on his face has been common place the last several years.....who would want to play for him with other options on the table....he might be a nice man overall but all this losing has taken a toll on him....either that or he's constipated.  

[MUEng92]

I think MUEng92 was being sarcastic...

Sorry, too hard to type in teal on Itouch.  With the "keyboard" taking up half the screen, most of the time I am lucky just to have the letters I am typing show up on the screen while typing without trying to change the font.

Yes, I was being sarcastic.  I will try harder next time (that I mean).

[farmdaddy]

Bruce Weber has become a train wreck and Illinois/Big Ten fans are some of the most delusional in the country. 
 

Illini fans are so delusional.  It drives me nuts having to listen to them nonstop about how great they are especially from people who didn't even go there.  It was a pleasure not seeing them in the NCAA tourney last year.

[Tom Crean's Tanning Bed]

Illini fans are so delusional.  It drives me nuts having to listen to them nonstop about how great they are especially from people who didn't even go there.  It was a pleasure not seeing them in the NCAA tourney last year.

Hey, when you have Ron Zook at the helm of your football program, there's really not a lot get excited about in comparison to the basketball program.  At least not everyone in Illinois, though, claims they went to Illinois like how everyone who went to a UW-Directional School claims they went to UW-Madison.

[duanewade]

Hey, when you have Ron Zook at the helm of your football program, there's really not a lot get excited about in comparison to the basketball program.  At least not everyone in Illinois, though, claims they went to Illinois like how everyone who went to a UW-Directional School claims they went to UW-Madison.

Well when Illinois had that run in football several years ago Ron Zook was Vince Lombardi and Illinois was the real deal and going to beat USC in the Rose Bowl - remember hearing those claims - I know I did......I loved watching that delusion getting popped when they got rocked by USC like so many other Big Ten teams have over the last decade. 

If Shaw has any sense he knows Marquette has the best talent, vibe and coaching and there is a real need at his position where you really can't say that about any other position on MU's roster.  Come to MU and enjoy being a mainstay in the top 20, big east championships and a long dances into March.  Plus we just have the smell of brewers yeast on our campus which smells a lot better than the manure off the corn fields at Illinois. 

[GGGG]

If Shaw has any sense he knows Marquette has the best talent, vibe and coaching and there is a real need at his position where you really can't say that about any other position on MU's roster.  Come to MU and enjoy being a mainstay in the top 20, big east championships and a long dances into March. 

I love when we complain about other fanbases being delusional...and then reading stuff like this.

[bilsu]

I love when we complain about other fanbases being delusional...and then reading stuff like this.

+1

[Fullodds]

Shaw is scheduling an official to West Virgina so I don't think a decision will come until after that visit.

[duanewade]

I love when we complain about other fanbases being delusional...and then reading stuff like this.

Well coming from you who is one of the board's most negative posters who is constantly calling for the destruction of the Big East and Marquette being left to hook up with Dusquene. Also u refused to acknowledge that Marquette got screwed even in the slightest by poor officiating in the Washington game. Finally at the same time every other program is on the upswing as apparently Oliver Purnell was an amazing hire for DePaul and worth $1.5MM a year and will be a thorn in the side of Marquette for years to come. Now if he had been Marquette's coach u would have pointed out that Dayton fans were excited to see him go when he left there and that Clemson made no effort to match his salary and Marquette made a poor choice and were doomed.

I know it's probably your nature to play devil's advocate but I don't think I'm being delustional at all....I love the direction where MU basketball is going and am looking forward to the ride.   

[GGGG]

Duanewade, you can try to throw me under the bus all you want, but how can I take you seriously if you are going to mis-state what I have said?

1. I haven't called for the destruction of the BE.  I have predicted the separation of its football and basketball schools.  (As have many others BTW.)  I certainly do not want this to occur.

2. I never said that UW didn't get the benefit of some calls...I said that complaining about refereeing is a loser's lament.

3. I said that DePaul would win some recruiting battles against MU in the Chicago area.  And I know I will be right about that.

So buck up on that reading comprehension!!!  I'm sure your Marquette education will serve you well in that regard.

[duanewade]

Duanewade, you can try to throw me under the bus all you want, but how can I take you seriously if you are going to mis-state what I have said?

1. I haven't called for the destruction of the BE.  I have predicted the separation of its football and basketball schools.  (As have many others BTW.)  I certainly do not want this to occur.
Separation of the Big East would be its destruction....lining back up with Dayton and Xavier has mid-major written all over it.

2. I never said that UW didn't get the benefit of some calls...I said that complaining about refereeing is a loser's lament.
No u did not acknowledge that UW got the benefit of any calls and "yelled" at other posters who saw and said the same thing....the referees had a huge impact on that game....poor officiating is critical with so many teams/games separated by inches or one extra key possession and hence why so many sports have went to instant replay as critical calls that are made poorly were rewarding the wrong team so they went to instant replay to get the calls right and take away any bias and missed calls regardless of bias.

3. I said that DePaul would win some recruiting battles against MU in the Chicago area.  And I know I will be right about that.
DePaul has always recruited pretty well regardless of their many flaws.  Oliver Purnell has zero charisma and was last in line when they handed out good looks......DePaul is our sister school and I always want them to do fairly well but they have a long way to go to catch up on all the positive attributes we have compared to them....especially due to the fact they can't and will never draw at that arena with it's horrible location.
So buck up on that reading comprehension!!!  I'm sure your Marquette education will serve you well in that regard.

[GGGG]

1. Again, the BE might be destroyed, but I am not "calling for" it.  I don't want to be destroyed.  Get the difference?


2. Here was my sentiment after the UW game:

"I'm not going to argue that they didn't swallow the whistles in the second half.  I'm not going to argue that they didn't miss calls.  What I am going to say is...that's basketball.  That kind of stuff happens in the NBA...it happens in the NCAA...it happens in high school...and in youth basketball.  UW adjusted their style of play, especially on the defensive end, and we didn't."

Blaming the refs when you blow a 15 point lead is just so f*cking lame.  I'll say it to this day.  I don't care about referees calls.  I absolutely cannot stand when a fan-base blames the refs, especially when we should have won the game.  We lost because Romar outcoached Buzz in the second-half. 


3. So you have actually acknowledge that I am right.  Purnell will win head to head battles with Buzz over prospects because they "always recruited pretty well."


Funny stuff!

[duanewade]

Funny as the joke is on you.  No one likes to be called out for being the constant negative, sky is falling, glass is half-empty, we're doomed but I'm just calling how it is but I'm really a MU fan curmudgeon on the board. 

No matter how you try to spin it you should just stop and look in the mirror and realize what you are doing.

Of course Buzz' stall ball played into the Washington come-back...but we still lost by a basket....had not every pump fake and dribble been called a traveling and had not every defensive of stop been bailed out by a lame call/whistle and giving Washington more possessions and momentum I'm confident MU holds on to win that game by 3+ points. 

DePaul has always recruited well being in Chicago's back yard is no secret (Richardson, Simmons, Hunter, Chandler...not to mention high school commits who went pro instead like Curry and Wright...are all post Meyer era pros who committed to  DePaul)....and yes Purnell will continue to get his share of Chicago good players with immediate playing time to promise....this is not a oracle type of prediction but common sense....however is Purnell and DePaul do not have what MU does in the hardest working/biggest upside coach in America who basically has created a team with 12 top 100 players in his third year and shown glimpses of incredible player development and coaching genius.  MU's ceiling under Buzz is twice as high as DePaul's and if Shaw is a smart kid he will see this and join the Golden Eagles.

[GGGG]

Funny as the joke is on you.  No one likes to be called out for being the constant negative, sky is falling, glass is half-empty, we're doomed but I'm just calling how it is but I'm really a MU fan curmudgeon on the board. 

So in other words, if I am pricking the "WE ARE THE BEST!!!" balloon that people like you like to toss up there, I am "constantly negative."

You really do have a problem with reading comprehension.

UWM grad???

[MUBurrow]

i just dont get how you can say that MU (or any other school for that matter) is the objectively correct decision for a recruit with a straight face.

[MUCrew]

I'm a fan.  I can be as delusional as I want.  Realistic expectations do not exist in my world 

[duanewade]

So in other words, if I am pricking the "WE ARE THE BEST!!!" balloon that people like you like to toss up there, I am "constantly negative."

You really do have a problem with reading comprehension.

UWM grad???

Please read all your constant negative posts as you are the one with a reading comprehension issue if you don't realize you are doing it. 

Maybe I am too optomistic but I know Buzz is special and that we are going to win a lot of games over the next five years. 

[Henry Sugar]

Come to MU and enjoy being a mainstay in the top 20, big east championships and a long dances into March. 

Marquette is not at this level yet.  We're not even close.

Am I constantly negative too?

[duanewade]

Marquette is not at this level yet.  We're not even close.

Am I constantly negative too?

No u r just wrong at this point....to say we are not even close when we've been knocking on the door the last couple of years and have had great recruiting classes with increased overall talent. To say we are not even close is just plain silly....even Sultan might think we're close.