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dmjt4160

#50
Apparently down to Nova, FSU, Maryland.

Official visit to Nova this weekend, to Maryland on the 22nd and an announcement on ESPN Thursday October 28th.

http://terrapinstationmd.com/2010/10/11/faust-sets-visits-announcement-date/

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: dmjt4160 on October 11, 2010, 10:02:32 PM
Apparently down to Nova, FSU, Maryland.

Official visit to Nova this weekend, to Maryland on the 22nd and an announcement on ESPN Thursday October 28th.

This comes from a MD website.

Hmmm.......goes from a Maryland just over Marquette recruitment for weeks to MU being dropped and Nova sneaking in just before he makes his decision.

Jay Wright is a god on the trail.

HoopsMalone

Hopefully Buzz can make a late push on a top recruit too.

RubyWiscy

Maybe Buzz said, " I got this kid from TX who is ready to commit. I'd rather take you, but I need to know right now." Look for Harrison to commit on Thursday.

Just speculating.

MarkCharles

Not good. Not good at all. I really, really wanted Faust.

Jay Wright is a stud. He's doing the things for Villanova that I can only dream Buzz will do for Marquette.

FSU could be stealing another of my favorite MU targets, as much talk has them as the leader for Rodney Hood.

MarkCharles

#55
Quote from: Ruby on October 11, 2010, 11:00:16 PM
Maybe Buzz said, " I got this kid from TX who is ready to commit. I'd rather take you, but I need to know right now." Look for Harrison to commit on Thursday.

Just speculating.

ooohh....an interesting take, no matter how unlikely or likely

MarkCharles

Quote from: dmjt4160 on October 11, 2010, 10:02:32 PM
Apparently down to Nova, FSU, Maryland.

Official visit to Nova this weekend, to Maryland on the 22nd and an announcement on ESPN Thursday October 28th.

http://terrapinstationmd.com/2010/10/11/faust-sets-visits-announcement-date/

Faust seems like a great kid and I wish him all the best, but since when does a 4 star recruit need to do a live tv announcement? I kind of understand guys like Austin Rivers doing it, as their decision has national implications and interest, but a guy like Faust only really draws interest from the schools involved in his recruitment.

By the way, thanks for all the info on this recruitment. I expect the same next time MU and MD are battling for a recruit!

BCHoopster

MU has a solid 11 kids in 2011, if MU can get Shaw, that is enough, then you can take a project like
McDonald.  Faust, Harrison or Hood would be great pick-ups but Shaw is the key player, a potential
solid power forward, that can get some PT time as a frosh, then probably see major minutes his
sophomore season.

willie warrior

It appears that they are dropping like flys from our list--also from the projected list of attendees at madness.

Hope this does not reflect on things to come.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

dmjt4160

Quote from: MarkCharles on October 11, 2010, 11:33:26 PM
Faust seems like a great kid and I wish him all the best, but since when does a 4 star recruit need to do a live tv announcement? I kind of understand guys like Austin Rivers doing it, as their decision has national implications and interest, but a guy like Faust only really draws interest from the schools involved in his recruitment.

By the way, thanks for all the info on this recruitment. I expect the same next time MU and MD are battling for a recruit!

Hah no problem and will do.

As for the announcement its simply becoming a really popular thing. ESPNU has a show dedicated to recruiting and it seems every week at least one kid is committing on that show so why not do it yourself and get your name out there. Faust actually really made a name for himself this summer and lots of fans have at least heard of him. Remember he did have offers/interest from UT, Kansas, Memphis, Arizona, Florida and others.

It was a little surprising to hear that he would do this on ESPN as hes always been a pretty reserved kid but if I was given the choice of committing at a random time with no media or going on national television to commit I think I'd choose the tv option. Like I said gives you a chance to throw your name out there and give the school your committing to a little exposure also.

Plus I'm sure the show is looking to bring on kids as much as possible to make their commitments as you know viewers are going to be WAY up especially in the MD area for that particular show.

NersEllenson

Quote from: dmjt4160 on October 11, 2010, 10:02:32 PM
Apparently down to Nova, FSU, Maryland.

Official visit to Nova this weekend, to Maryland on the 22nd and an announcement on ESPN Thursday October 28th.

http://terrapinstationmd.com/2010/10/11/faust-sets-visits-announcement-date/

From the link you provided, all I took was that he's taking an official to both Villanova and MD.  I didn't see where it said he eliminated Marquette?  Or is that what you are hearing on the streets in Baltimore?
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

NersEllenson

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on October 11, 2010, 10:16:05 PM
Hmmm.......goes from a Maryland just over Marquette recruitment for weeks to MU being dropped and Nova sneaking in just before he makes his decision.

Jay Wright is a god on the trail.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 12, 2010, 06:25:31 AM
It appears that they are dropping like flys from our list--also from the projected list of attendees at madness.

Hope this does not reflect on things to come.

Perhaps MU landing Juan Anderson made Faust decide to not look at MU anymore - y'all do realize kids look at availability of playing time as a factor in making these decisions, right?  Furthermore, nowhere in the article does it say Faust "dropped" MU from his list.  Lastly, if you have concerns about this "reflecting on things to come," or Jay Wright being a "god" on the recruiting trail - just look at the complexion of the Marquette roster and ask yourself:  Does Nova or Maryland have more talent assembled than does Buzz and MU?  Did Buzz not BEAT Jay Wright last year in the Big East tourney?  We can go back to recruiting 3-star talent as did our predecessor - other than his 1 kid per year that was a 4-star target that was considering us - and sign 3-star kids right away now.  Buzz has us in on multiple top 100 talent and Top 50 kids this year.  3-stars now BEG to sign with MU, whereas in the past we had to recruit the hell out of them.  I'm not worried about if this is a "reflection of what's to come."
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

dmjt4160

Quote from: Ners on October 12, 2010, 08:26:41 AM
From the link you provided, all I took was that he's taking an official to both Villanova and MD.  I didn't see where it said he eliminated Marquette?  Or is that what you are hearing on the streets in Baltimore?

It was reported on our site in an interview with his dad that he was taking those two officials and that FSU was the only other team being considered. Not to be a dick but honestly it doesn't matter which other teams are listed as still under consideration. People who never ever talk in absolutes have been talking in absolutes about Faust for over a month now.

chren21

Quote from: BCHoopster on October 12, 2010, 12:26:09 AM
MU has a solid 11 kids in 2011, if MU can get Shaw, that is enough, then you can take a project like
McDonald.  Faust, Harrison or Hood would be great pick-ups but Shaw is the key player, a potential
solid power forward, that can get some PT time as a frosh, then probably see major minutes his
sophomore season.

Agree totally.  Shaw is the key.  If we land him this years recruting class is a huge win.  Anything more than Shaw will be icing on the cake.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: Ners on October 12, 2010, 08:33:33 AM
Perhaps MU landing Juan Anderson made Faust decide to not look at MU anymore - y'all do realize kids look at availability of playing time as a factor in making these decisions, right?  Furthermore, nowhere in the article does it say Faust "dropped" MU from his list.  Lastly, if you have concerns about this "reflecting on things to come," or Jay Wright being a "god" on the recruiting trail - just look at the complexion of the Marquette roster and ask yourself:  Does Nova or Maryland have more talent assembled than does Buzz and MU?  Did Buzz not BEAT Jay Wright last year in the Big East tourney?  We can go back to recruiting 3-star talent as did our predecessor - other than his 1 kid per year that was a 4-star target that was considering us - and sign 3-star kids right away now.  Buzz has us in on multiple top 100 talent and Top 50 kids this year.  3-stars now BEG to sign with MU, whereas in the past we had to recruit the hell out of them.  I'm not worried about if this is a "reflection of what's to come."

Anderson committing has no effect on Faust.

And doubting Jay Wright's ability on the recruiting trail is not a road you want to go down when you push so hard to defend Buzz. They are at different levels. Just ask Jayvaughn Pinkston.

NersEllenson

Quote from: dmjt4160 on October 12, 2010, 08:38:23 AM
It was reported on our site in an interview with his dad that he was taking those two officials and that FSU was the only other team being considered. Not to be a dick but honestly it doesn't matter which other teams are listed as still under consideration. People who never ever talk in absolutes have been talking in absolutes about Faust for over a month now.

Thanks for the additional background.  I'd be shocked if Maryland didn't land Faust, considering he's a Baltimore native, and MD is the only high-major D-1 program in Maryland.  I'm a little surprised his recruitment has been drawn out this long, and that he recently added Villanova to his list - as your sources for about the last 2 months have been saying Faust to MD is basically a done deal.  Been an interesting recruitment to say the least.  I think all MU fans would rather see him end up at MD than Villanova (if we are out of the mix.)
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

NersEllenson

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on October 12, 2010, 08:54:35 AM
Anderson committing has no effect on Faust.

And doubting Jay Wright's ability on the recruiting trail is not a road you want to go down when you push so hard to defend Buzz. They are at different levels. Just ask Jayvaughn Pinkston.

Umm..why not?

I agree Jay Wright and Buzz are at different levels  to the extent that: Jay Wright has been head coach at Nova for 9 years, compared to Buzz's 2 years.  Jay is 48, Buzz 37.  Jay took a team to a Final Four, though as a 2 seed this year he got beat by St. Mary's (and got beat by Buzz and Marquette in the Big East tourney of course).  And, to say that just because one school beats us on a kid such as Jayvaughn Pinkston, means one coach is a better recruiter than the other is a tenuous argument at best.  Pretty sure Buzz has "beat" the likes of Huggins, Pearl, Calipari (Buycks/DJO), Howland, Billy Donovan, Sean Miller (Vander Blue).

So long as MU remains in the Big East, Buzz will always recruit quite well for Marquette...we can take the Chicos approach here and judge after 5 years..but my guess is that if Buzz is at MU for 9 years..he will achieve what Jay Wright has accomplished at Villanova.
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: Ners on October 12, 2010, 09:07:28 AM
my guess is that if Buzz is at MU for 9 years..he will achieve what Jay Wright has accomplished at Villanova.

That's a great way of looking at it...I hope Buzz stays here 9 years.

ceh

Quote from: Ruby on October 11, 2010, 11:00:16 PM
Maybe Buzz said, " I got this kid from TX who is ready to commit. I'd rather take you, but I need to know right now." Look for Harrison to commit on Thursday.

Just speculating.

Ruby, I hope this is the case, but from what I have read, it seems like Harrison is a Oklahoma State lean.  I don't think we are out of the running yet for either Faust or Harrison, but I think it will be difficult at this point.  Just my opinion.  I think our next signing will be a Texas kid, but just not Harrison.  Let's hope Buzz can get either of these fantastic shooting guards because they would be great additions to the team.

NotAnAlum

I agree.  Hood is the kid I really want because you need a deadly shooter to replace DJO.  I'd love to get Shaw as well.

MarkCharles

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Quote from: Ners on October 12, 2010, 08:33:33 AM
Perhaps MU landing Juan Anderson made Faust decide to not look at MU anymore - y'all do realize kids look at availability of playing time as a factor in making these decisions, right?  Furthermore, nowhere in the article does it say Faust "dropped" MU from his list.  Lastly, if you have concerns about this "reflecting on things to come," or Jay Wright being a "god" on the recruiting trail - just look at the complexion of the Marquette roster and ask yourself:  Does Nova or Maryland have more talent assembled than does Buzz and MU?  Did Buzz not BEAT Jay Wright last year in the Big East tourney?  We can go back to recruiting 3-star talent as did our predecessor - other than his 1 kid per year that was a 4-star target that was considering us - and sign 3-star kids right away now.  Buzz has us in on multiple top 100 talent and Top 50 kids this year.  3-stars now BEG to sign with MU, whereas in the past we had to recruit the hell out of them.  I'm not worried about if this is a "reflection of what's to come."

Yes, Nova does. Wright has at least as much talent on the perimeter as Buzz does, plus a stud center (Mouphtao Yarou) and a lot more depth inside. As much as I love our roster, and I don't think we're that far behind Nova, I would trade rosters with them in a second.

In terms of availability of time, even at the 2/3 that Faust will play, I don't think Nova makes any more sense than MU. They are already loaded, and have 2 sgs already signed for 2011.

I will take our roster over Maryland's any day, but all signs seem to point to Faust signing for them.

JWags85

Quote from: willie warrior on October 12, 2010, 06:25:31 AM
It appears that they are dropping like flys from our list--also from the projected list of attendees at madness.

Hope this does not reflect on things to come.

Or maybe its because its getting to the nitty gritty and we are down to the kids who will actually commit potentially and not just guys we are in on.  Id be just fine if 6 flys drop from our list of 11 if those last 5 are quite realistic possibilities.

GGGG

Quote from: ceh on October 12, 2010, 09:36:53 AM
I think our next signing will be a Texas kid, but just not Harrison. 

Jarian Henry???

RubyWiscy

QuoteIt appears that they are dropping like flys from our list--also from the projected list of attendees at madness.

Hope this does not reflect on things to come

Fact: We have 2 ships left. We cannot get ALL of these guys. Buzz likely has a very good idea of who he can and cannot get vs. guys who have us on their list.  What to us may come as a surprise, he may have known for a while.

I'm still not convinced we are out with Faust as I have not seen anything that says that.  He is looking at a few more schools before he decides.  Good for him.

Buzz will get 2 or 3 more high quality players who will benefit the program. Have faith.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: Ners on October 12, 2010, 09:07:28 AM
Umm..why not?

I agree Jay Wright and Buzz are at different levels  to the extent that: Jay Wright has been head coach at Nova for 9 years, compared to Buzz's 2 years.  Jay is 48, Buzz 37.  Jay took a team to a Final Four, though as a 2 seed this year he got beat by St. Mary's (and got beat by Buzz and Marquette in the Big East tourney of course).  And, to say that just because one school beats us on a kid such as Jayvaughn Pinkston, means one coach is a better recruiter than the other is a tenuous argument at best.  Pretty sure Buzz has "beat" the likes of Huggins, Pearl, Calipari (Buycks/DJO), Howland, Billy Donovan, Sean Miller (Vander Blue).

So long as MU remains in the Big East, Buzz will always recruit quite well for Marquette...we can take the Chicos approach here and judge after 5 years..but my guess is that if Buzz is at MU for 9 years..he will achieve what Jay Wright has accomplished at Villanova.

With regard to Anderson and Faust:

1) Faust is an elite level national prospect that is not going to turn down a school simply because a mid-level prospect has committed to one of the three scholarships available.

2) Marquette has been more then a sidebar in his recruitment all summer long. If he stayed home, it's Maryland. If he went away, it's Marquette. It would be suspect to drop a school you're willing to leave home for because they landed a player who likely won't be much competition for you (JA at the 3 and 4 whereas NF at the 2 and 3 moving to 1). There is a reason. And its not Anderson's commitment.

3) Finally, the main tenets of Buzz' recruiting are versatility and length. That means he will take similar prospects in one class knowing they spread over two or three or even four positions. This is why people are still excited at the possibility of Hood or Shaw even with Anderson in the fold. You can't trumpet versatility when you land a player and then claim there's an overlap when another prospect turns you down.

With regard to Wright:

Any objective college basketball person will tell you that Jay Wright is outstanding on the recruiting trail. He is simply a class above. He's landed elite talent in the markets you have to have a presence in and his teams produce on that talent even if people question his Xs and Os.

One of his first classes at Nova was Ray, Foye, Sumpter, and Fraser. The breadth and depth of that class blows away anything MU has seen in over a decade (even with Fraser being robbed of a career due to his knees). He's followed it up through two renewed cycles with elite talent. He is a god.

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