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Steve Buscemi

Crowder is not even on the key reserves... gimme a break
"I work out twice a day, six days a week and on Sunday I go to church."  -John Dawson

chapman

Quote from: OneBigB on September 02, 2010, 02:18:56 PM
Crowder is not even on the key reserves... gimme a break

Nor is Cadougan, who you would think should be penciled in as the starter at point.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: OneBigB on September 02, 2010, 02:18:56 PM
Crowder is not even on the key reserves... gimme a break

Yup, exactly the same reason why preseason polls are ridiculous.  No one does their homework on this stuff, least of all the voters.

willie warrior

This is pure bullcrap. Caddy will be a starter and so will Crowder, and they are not even listed as key reserves. Stupid!
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

APieperFan3

"the Golden Eagles now expect to get back to the NCAA tournament, but just getting there isn't good enough this time around."

Best part of the article. Hoping this is the case for MANY years to come.
The "average fan" is an idiot.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 02, 2010, 02:28:17 PM
Yup, exactly the same reason why preseason polls are ridiculous.  No one does their homework on this stuff, least of all the voters.



Some preseason evaluators (like this no name you referenced) are worthless. (which begs the question-why did you reference them?) Others (Blue Ribbon, Katz, Gottlieb,etc.) can prove worthwhile.

Garbage in ("NO ONE does their homework on this stuff) necessarily leads to garbage out (preseason polls are all ridiculous). Ironic that you would be universal in accusing  every writer, coach, broadcaster, etc with being sloppy with their facts even as you commit the same sin.


MarkCharles

Quote from: willie warrior on September 02, 2010, 02:35:25 PM
This is pure bullcrap. Caddy will be a starter and so will Crowder, and they are not even listed as key reserves. Stupid!
Caddy is a terrible nickname. Lets stop this one before it catches on. I think "Junior Cadougan" is a cool enough name that it doesn't really need a nickname.

MarkCharles

What a terribly written article by the way, besides the fact that he clearly doesn't know too much about the team.

Dr. Blackheart


Lennys Tap

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 02, 2010, 08:31:54 PM
Indiana in the Big Dance at #63?  Cue the Crean vs. Al poll...

http://thehoopsreport.com/article.aspx?id=525


Did the IU fan who commented really say that their new conditioning coach is Tough Cookie?

nycwarrior

Yup, he's got 2/5 of the starting line-up wrong.

That said, does anyone think we should start the year in the top 20 given all of our question marks?

We see all of the incoming talent and the apparently revitalized Otule as reasons for optimism but could a neutral observer really be blamed for taking a more cautious approach to rating this year's team?

We return about 8 rebounds per game from a poor rebounding team and, while I hope it's not the case, Otule may have feet like Mike Kinsella.

I'm happy for us to lurk low in pre-season expectations and surprise people when all of that young talent starts to find its way.

Henry Sugar

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MerrittsMustache

Was that article written by a 16-year-old for his high school paper? Aside from the player omissions, the writing was an embarassingly bad. What a pointless piece of "journalism." Thanks for sharing.

chapman

Quote from: nycwarrior on September 03, 2010, 06:43:28 AM
Yup, he's got 2/5 of the starting line-up wrong.

That said, does anyone think we should start the year in the top 20 given all of our question marks?

We see all of the incoming talent and the apparently revitalized Otule as reasons for optimism but could a neutral observer really be blamed for taking a more cautious approach to rating this year's team?

We return about 8 rebounds per game from a poor rebounding team and, while I hope it's not the case, Otule may have feet like Mike Kinsella.

I'm happy for us to lurk low in pre-season expectations and surprise people when all of that young talent starts to find its way.


I've not no beef with the ranking he gave us.  If he gives us #42 with a solid, well-researched analysis that doesn't fail to mention two favorites to start  I've got no complaints.   Looking at the comments at the bottom of the IU article it appears that they were not well researched either.  

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 02, 2010, 08:31:54 PM
Indiana in the Big Dance at #63?  Cue the Crean vs. Al poll...

http://thehoopsreport.com/article.aspx?id=525

The 63rd best team does not make the big dance.  Cut-off is usually around 45.

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warthog-driver

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 02, 2010, 08:31:54 PM
Indiana in the Big Dance at #63?  Cue the Crean vs. Al poll...

http://thehoopsreport.com/article.aspx?id=525

As a result, Tom Crean inherited a depleted team without much clout in the recruiting sphere, and the team has experienced limited success during Crean's tenure so far.

I would submit that IU has experienced NO success during Crean's tenure. May it continue.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: indeelaw90 on September 03, 2010, 09:17:12 AM
Why is it when it is Marquette it is #1 in our hearts....but when it isabout Buzz, it is #1 in "your" hearts?

In the business this is known as a "Fruedian slip". Buzz would call this an example of Chicos "revealing himself".

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 03, 2010, 10:03:06 AM
In the business this is known as a "Fruedian slip". Buzz would call this an example of Chicos "revealing himself".

+1 trillion....and he does it frequently

willie warrior

Quote from: MarkCharles on September 02, 2010, 03:28:20 PM
Caddy is a terrible nickname. Lets stop this one before it catches on. I think "Junior Cadougan" is a cool enough name that it doesn't really need a nickname.
Caddy is easier to type. Kind of like DJO.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Lighthouse 84

Just don't start calling him Doogie......

Easier to type?  Isn't Jr. easiest to type?
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1. The Avalanche.              7. Major Goolsby's.
2. The Gym.                      8. Park Avenue.
3. The Ardmore.                 9. Mugrack.
4. O'Donohues.                 10. Lighthouse.
5. O'Pagets.
6. Hagerty's.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: warthog-driver on September 03, 2010, 09:33:02 AM
As a result, Tom Crean inherited a depleted team without much clout in the recruiting sphere, and the team has experienced limited success during Crean's tenure so far.

I would submit that IU has experienced NO success during Crean's tenure. May it continue.

16-46 overall, 5-31 in conference, 0-2 in big 10 post season play. That's no success any way you slice it. They did lead the nation in % of victories that resulted in storming the court, though most would consider that another negative.


MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 03, 2010, 11:28:14 AM
16-46 overall, 5-31 in conference, 0-2 in big 10 post season play. That's no success any way you slice it. They did lead the nation in % of victories that resulted in storming the court, though most would consider that another negative.


Hoosier fans should never storm the court. I mean, it's Indiana. It's Indiana.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: indeelaw90 on September 03, 2010, 09:17:12 AM
Why is it when it is Marquette it is #1 in our hearts....but when it isabout Buzz, it is #1 in "your" hearts?

Because Buzz isn't number one in my heart, no coach or player ever is.  The school \ program is always above the players and the coaches because they come and go. 

No freudian slip Lenny and Robert (Canadian Dimes), absolutely 100% intentional.   I'd say the same thing if Dean Smith was our coach.  Program \ School #1, not any individual(s)


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