2010-2011 NFC North Division

[muarmy81]

Wow CHI...that was absolutely terrible.

[Rollout-the-Barrel]

That bears/redskins game was just awful. Fumbles and interceptions galore. Was at least entertaining in a comical sort of way.  Looks like bear coaching staff and maybe gm will be on there way out.

[chren21]

Just went to the Bears game.  They are terrible.  Their fans are halarious.

[muarmy81]

That bears/redskins game was just awful. Fumbles and interceptions galore. Was at least entertaining in a comical sort of way.  Looks like bear coaching staff and maybe gm will be on there way out.

That's the only positive of this whole debacle is that Lovie will finally get the hook.  As a bears fan I can't stand watching any of their games...they seem to enjoy finding a way to loose, despite their defense being pretty respectable.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Honestly, I don't get them.

The Bears - Lions game earlier in the year.

The Dolphins game today.

Honestly, tonight's Packers game with the TD called back on the Vikings.  I'm with Al Michels and Collinsworth, I don't see how that is not a touchdown, let alone reversed since it was called on on the field.  Don't get me wrong, I was happy to see the Packers win the game, I just don't understand some of these calls.  I've been watching football for more than 3 decades and there are calls this year that seem to be in direct contradiction to everything I've seen for 30+ years watching this game.

[Hards Alumni]

Honestly, I don't get them.

The Bears - Lions game earlier in the year.

The Dolphins game today.

Honestly, tonight's Packers game with the TD called back on the Vikings.  I'm with Al Michels and Collinsworth, I don't see how that is not a touchdown, let alone reversed since it was called on on the field.  Don't get me wrong, I was happy to see the Packers win the game, I just don't understand some of these calls.  I've been watching football for more than 3 decades and there are calls this year that seem to be in direct contradiction to everything I've seen for 30+ years watching this game.

I agree, the officiating was especially bad last night.  So many blown calls.

[GOMU1104]

The same way the ground cannot cause a fumble...You cant use the ground to aid in catching the ball. That, I believe, is the rule. That is what happened. The ball was not securely in Shaincoe's possession until the ball hit the ground, allowing him to secure it.

The worse call was the "late hit" on Collins...wow.

I am willing to bet the Backjudge flat out guessed on the two plays in the back of the endzone (Quarless and Harvin). Too bad Chilly is too stupid to challenge the Quarless play...

Between the 2 teams though, only 8 penalties for 60 yards. While the officiating may have been bad, I'm glad they werent calling ticky tack stuff and let them play.

[GGGG]

That game was refed like a playoff game as far as penalties go, which made it high quality stuff.  Childress going off on the officials afterwards made him sound like a loon...his going off on Favre isn't going to help things in that locker room.  I know the Vikings can bounce back against the Patriots (but I doubt they will), and the division is horrifically bad, but they look done to me.

I mean, I thought their game plan was exactly what I thought the Vikings should be doing for years.  Give the ball to AP a ton.  As bad as Favre was, they really should have won that game.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Looks like bear coaching staff and maybe gm will be on there way out.

That is the plan.

[mu-rara]

JayBee.....calling JayBee.....calling Mr. JayBee

[LON]

Is Erin's record truly that bad?  Keep hearing that dude is 1-10 or 1-11 in games decided by 4 or less.  Where is the law of averages on this one? 

Smart money is on THE CONSENSUS once again, baby!!!!

SKOL VIKINGS!!!!

Yes, it's Aaron Rodgers fault for terrible defense/special teams and other things he has total control over.

It was fun walking out of Lambeau with all the dejected Vikings fans last night.

[JWags85]

That is the plan.

Lovie's game management is awful.  His reasoning and overall lack of challenge on the Cutler sneak just further proves it.  And I understand he is a defensive-minded coach, but he needs to control Martz who is calling plays like a damn fool.  They are seriously play-calling like when I play Madden and try to pat my QB's stats, the balance is non-existent.

[Jay Bee]

Tough loss.  Disappointing.  Favre looks dead.  A number of crappy calls, but going both ways.  

The division is looking pitiful.. need to get on a roll here.  There is still time.  

Percy is incredible.  Minnesota will prevail.

[ATWizJr]

Hah!

[GOMU1104]

Harvin is an incredible athlete. Has a ways to go in his route running. Once he figures out how do that, he will be fantastic.


People that keep complaining about the Shaincoe call dont understand the rule. It was the right call.

[MUEng92]

Percy is incredible.

About once every five years I get a migrane headache that makes me wonder if the moment before death could really hurt much worse, so I would not wish a migrane on anyone.

That said, I was starting to contemplate wishing one on Harvin last night because that was about the only thing that would stop him.  Thank God the NFL doesn't use the Candian Football League sized end zones!

[Dish]

That was a huge win for the Pack last night, essentially giving them a two and a half game lead on the Vikes for the division. I keep forgetting how sneaky tough the rest of the Pack's schedule is. My assumption is the Vikes drop to 2-5 after visiting NE this weekend, and they're just not a good football team. They're sked is easier than the Pack, but still includes the Skins, Pack, Giants, Eagles and the Bears twice (as bad as they are, they'll be up for the Vikes).

I woudln't be surprised if the Bears only win one more game, wheels have totally fallen off that wagon.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

That was a huge win for the Pack last night, essentially giving them a two and a half game lead on the Vikes for the division. I keep forgetting how sneaky tough the rest of the Pack's schedule is. My assumption is the Vikes drop to 2-5 after visiting NE this weekend, and they're just not a good football team. They're sked is easier than the Pack, but still includes the Skins, Pack, Giants, Eagles and the Bears twice (as bad as they are, they'll be up for the Vikes).

I woudln't be surprised if the Bears only win one more game, wheels have totally fallen off that wagon.

hey, the bears are still in first place.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

The same way the ground cannot cause a fumble...You cant use the ground to aid in catching the ball. That, I believe, is the rule. That is what happened. The ball was not securely in Shaincoe's possession until the ball hit the ground, allowing him to secure it.

The worse call was the "late hit" on Collins...wow.

I am willing to bet the Backjudge flat out guessed on the two plays in the back of the endzone (Quarless and Harvin). Too bad Chilly is too stupid to challenge the Quarless play...

Between the 2 teams though, only 8 penalties for 60 yards. While the officiating may have been bad, I'm glad they werent calling ticky tack stuff and let them play.

I guess I just don't see how he didn't secure it.  I guess Michels, Collinsworth (an all-pro receiver..he could be bias) and I see things different.  I get that the ball moves but he never loses control at all.  The ball moves as does his hands. 

[GOMU1104]

I guess I just don't see how he didn't secure it.  I guess Michels, Collinsworth (an all-pro receiver..he could be bias) and I see things different.  I get that the ball moves but he never loses control at all.  The ball moves as does his hands. 

As he falls to the ground, the ball (while he may have some control) hits the ground and allows him to secure the ball in his stomach.

Again, you cant use the ground to aid in the catching of a pass.

[ChicosBailBonds]

http://deadspin.com/5672552/brett-favre-is-a-bitch

[Spotcheck Billy]

Is Erin's record truly that bad?  Keep hearing that dude is 1-10 or 1-11 in games decided by 4 or less.  Where is the law of averages on this one? 

theres nowhere to go but up!

[MUBurrow]

Somewhat unrelated, but needs to be said: Collinsworth blows. He is absolutely awful.  On the Collins pick, watching him try to criticize Harvin was probably one of the worst instances of a) pandering to the star player or b) a commentator simply not knowing what he's talking about.  Harvin, on a mid range slant, cuts into the defense, and slows to settle into a hole in the zone to the right of the MLB and just in front of Collins.  Collinsworth, seeing this, blasts Harvin for "not deciding whether to run is route hard or stop it on a dime"  Clearly Collinsworth has never tried to find a hole in a zone or he would know about Harvin slowing to quietly call attention the hole he had found while not becoming a stationary target.  The play was clear as day to any armchair qb watching it on TV, and Collinsworth missing it is inexcusable.

[NavinRJohnson]

Somewhat unrelated, but needs to be said: Collinsworth blows. He is absolutely awful. 

I completely disagree. For me he is second only to Troy Aikman, on the analysts rankings, and I think the drop after those guys is severe (Although I find Brian Billick to be pretty good as well. Haven't heard a lot of him however, so I could be wrong.).

[GOMU1104]

Ha, apparently the NFL told Chilly the following, according to Judd Zulgad:

"Childress told by NFL today that Shiancoe TD should have stood and not been overturned."

"Childress also told if he had challenged Packers TD it would have been overturned."

I guess I was mistaken. Oh well. Sucks for them.