Lazar graduating?

[beaconwarrior]

I graduated today and couldn't find Lazar's name in the program...Any ideas as to why?

I don't remember hearing that he wasn't set to graduate.

Just curious.

[westcoastwarrior]

yes he graduated....

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/051910aaa.html

[muballer10]

I dont know...Lazars name was not on any of the graudation brochure stuff. You don't have to be there to be on that list, it is all-inclusive of all graduates, including those that get done in May.

[CrazyEcho]

yes he graduated....

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/051910aaa.html

That press release was very trickily worded.  Note it said that Lazar/Cubie/Mo would be participating in graduation activities and when they graduated . . . it never explicitly said that they would be graduating in May--perhaps they are finishing up this summer?

[muhoosier260]

That press release was very trickily worded.  Note it said that Lazar/Cubie/Mo would be participating in graduation activities and when they graduated . . . it never explicitly said that they would be graduating in May--perhaps they are finishing up this summer?

That wouldn't be too uncommon. I had friends who did this, I'm not surprised someone as busy as these guys needs an extra class or two at the end.

[MUfan12]

That wouldn't be too uncommon. I had friends who did this, I'm not surprised someone as busy as these guys needs an extra class or two at the end.

Usually those who need extra innings are listed as well.

[muballer10]

Everyone that is set to graduate is listed, even if it is in August. So if you are a couple classes short and are registered for those extra classes you need, then you are on the list. Both Mo and Cubillan were listed.

I had a class with Lazar this semester, and it was one that was required for graduation. I saw him maybe twice all year.

I love Lazar, but I would be really disappointed if he got a "screw it, my job is basketball" attitude towards the end of his stay at Marquette. I would also be surprised that someone who is doing the whole NBA try out circuit would have any time to take summer classes. If his "extra classes" were pushed back until after the draft, then he would be either playing overseas or on a summer league team, pushing back the classes further and further. My gut says that if he didn't graduate on time in May, he won't for awhile, if at all.

[esotericmindguy]

Usually those who need extra innings are listed as well.

Nope, not unless you sign up for may graduation.  I finished in the summer but was only able to participate in ceremony by registering...maybe he didn't.

[chapman]

Graduation Day: Seniors Maurice Acker, David Cubillan and Lazar Hayward will participate in graduation ceremonies this weekend. Cubillan's mother and brother will be in attendance, marking the first time his mother will have visited campus during his career.

When this year's trio officially earns its degree, 61 of the last 64 Marquette players will have graduated over the course of the last 19 years and each of the 34 players to complete their respective eligibility since 1999-2000 will have joined the MU alumni group.

Doesn't sound like he didn't graduate.  Nice spin though if he actually didn't.

[BrewCity83]

That does look like it may be a nice spin.  As discussed here previously, one can join the alumni group merely by attending, not necessarily graduating.

[MU B2002]

I graduated today and couldn't find Lazar's name in the program...Any ideas as to why?

I don't remember hearing that he wasn't set to graduate.

Just curious.

Maybe Lazar Hayward is just a psuedonym.

[Benny B]

Unless things have changed since my time, the Registrar's office has the final word on a student's graduation, not the committee in charge of graduation programs.

There have been numerous instances where an individual's name was printed even though he/she didn't really graduate, and I'm sure there have been a number of instances where someone who did graduate wasn't listed in the program.

Sure... not seeing Lazar's name in the program is unexpected, but that doesn't mean he isn't graduating.  And even if he isn't, that's his and his family's business for now.  Once the graduation success reports are published, then it will be everybody's business.

Speculating is fun... but when discussing the personal life of a graduating senior, please utilize discretion and restraint.  Let's not go all TMZ until he's actually signed a professional contract.

[GGGG]

Everyone that is set to graduate is listed, even if it is in August. So if you are a couple classes short and are registered for those extra classes you need, then you are on the list. Both Mo and Cubillan were listed.

I had a class with Lazar this semester, and it was one that was required for graduation. I saw him maybe twice all year.

I love Lazar, but I would be really disappointed if he got a "screw it, my job is basketball" attitude towards the end of his stay at Marquette. I would also be surprised that someone who is doing the whole NBA try out circuit would have any time to take summer classes. If his "extra classes" were pushed back until after the draft, then he would be either playing overseas or on a summer league team, pushing back the classes further and further. My gut says that if he didn't graduate on time in May, he won't for awhile, if at all.

If you can apply and march even if you include upcoming summer classes, it makes perfect sense that Mo and Cubes graduated even if they have summer classes to finish up.  Zar is going to be busy with other things this summer.  I hope he comes back to graduate soon, but you can't blame the guy for working on bball for now.

Oh, and I believe he has six years for it to impact MU's graduation rates for those of you who are concerned about those kind of things.

[Ron Paul]

Yeah but not necessarily, I needed extras and since I did not file the paperwork to get it done with my adviser I did not make it on the Spring list.

[wiscwarrior]

That does look like it may be a nice spin.  As discussed here previously, one can join the alumni group merely by attending, not necessarily graduating.

By definition, those who have graduated from or attended a university are alumni. It's not a spin to call someone who attended MU but did not graduate an alumnus.

[muballer10]

Sure... not seeing Lazar's name in the program is unexpected, but that doesn't mean he isn't graduating.  And even if he isn't, that's his and his family's business for now.  Once the graduation success reports are published, then it will be everybody's business.

Speculating is fun... but when discussing the personal life of a graduating senior, please utilize discretion and restraint.  Let's not go all TMZ until he's actually signed a professional contract.

Wow, even your high horse is hoity toity.

[Hards Alumni]

Wow, even your high horse is hoity toity.

He makes a very valid point.

[muballer10]

He makes a very valid point.

Really? What is that exactly? I said his last 2 bullets were hoity - and all they effectively said were "that is none of your business"

That isn't a point, that is being a douche. We're hypothesizing over whether or not our star player graduated, a player who has, for the last four years, been applauded for having impeccable character and being a perfect representative of the university. Questioning whether or not he graduated because he was not included on the 2,000+ person list with all of the other graduates is neither out of line nor critical without cause.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Good Lord! Give the kid a break! In four years, Lazar has been one of the best examples of hard work the program has seen in quite some time. I recall the media guide listing his unbelievable physical progression. There is ZERO reason to think he's just up and quit. Leave it alone!

[MerrittsMustache]

Why would the article say that Lazar was participating "in graduation ceremonies" if he wasn't actually graduating? What else would he be doing? Was he ushering at the Bradley Center?

Whether he graduated or not, he did more for the university than any of us have ever done.

[GGGG]

Really? What is that exactly? I said his last 2 bullets were hoity - and all they effectively said were "that is none of your business"

That isn't a point, that is being a douche. We're hypothesizing over whether or not our star player graduated, a player who has, for the last four years, been applauded for having impeccable character and being a perfect representative of the university. Questioning whether or not he graduated because he was not included on the 2,000+ person list with all of the other graduates is neither out of line nor critical without cause.

IMO, your level of douchy-ness on this topic exceeds Benny's.

[muballer10]

IMO, your level of douchy-ness on this topic exceeds Benny's.

Sorry that I'm just genuinely fed up with "holier than thou" posting that routinely litters this board. Don't tell me to mind my own business when I'm respectfully talking about publically available information on a message board.

[GGGG]

Sorry that I'm just genuinely fed up with "holier than thou" posting that routinely litters this board. Don't tell me to mind my own business when I'm respectfully talking about publically available information on a message board.

There is a lot of public information about a lot of people that can be posted on message boards.  The key is determining what is appropriate to post in such a forum and what isn't.

[muballer10]

There is a lot of public information about a lot of people that can be posted on message boards.  The key is determining what is appropriate to post in such a forum and what isn't.
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Could you give me an example of publically available information that is not appropriate for a message board?

That is the point of message boards, and that is the point of THIS message board - to talk about all things Marquette basketball. We can talk about how great our graduation rate is. Marquette can write a article with the sole purpose of saying "our players graduated this year". We can take bits and pieces of interviews and publically crafted statements to assume Lazar is a deity. We cannot bring up the possibility that one did not graduate? All of a sudden that is inappropriate? Please.

Maybe we could make a different forum for inappropriate people like myself. We can call it the real world and put it right under the superbar.
 

[Hards Alumni]

There is a lot of public information about a lot of people that can be posted on message boards.  The key is determining what is appropriate to post in such a forum and what isn't.
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Could you give me an example of publically available information that is not appropriate for a message board?

That is the point of message boards, and that is the point of THIS message board - to talk about all things Marquette basketball. We can talk about how great our graduation rate is. Marquette can write a article with the sole purpose of saying "our players graduated this year". We can take bits and pieces of interviews and publically crafted statements to assume Lazar is a deity. We cannot bring up the possibility that one did not graduate? All of a sudden that is inappropriate? Please.

Maybe we could make a different forum for inappropriate people like myself. We can call it the real world and put it right under the superbar.
 

One name missing from a program is probably not the smoking gun you think it is.

I think Lazar's work ethic for the last 4 years demands that we give him the benefit of the doubt rather than tabloid speculation.