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texaswarrior74

QuoteClemson athletic director Dr. Terry Don Phillips said during a news conference he was shocked by Purnell's decision to leave. He said he learned of the move during a phone call from the coach at about 1:30 a.m. Tuesday.

"I'm not sure I know what to say," Phillips said. "I'm in a little bit of shock. ... I'm as surprised as anyone."

Phillips said Purnell left South Carolina without addressing his players, many learning via text message and on Twitter before interim coach Ron Bradley officially notified them at a 7:30 a.m. breakfast meeting.

At least his players didn't hear about it on ESPN but.....lack of class...I'm really disappointed in Purnell I though he was better than that.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=5059657

77ncaachamps

Now the Clemson fans can empathize with us!

BOO Purnell...and doubly BOO now that you're the HC with DePaul!
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GGGG

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 07, 2010, 12:12:03 PM
Now the Clemson fans can empathize with us!


Hope they aren't as obsessed as some of us are and will let it go two years later.

augoman

I agree we should "let it go"..., but when someone kicks you in the crotch, you never forget it.

4everwarriors

That depends on whether said fans found Purnell to be a fraud during his time at Clemson as some of us did with Crean long before he bolted.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Nukem2

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 07, 2010, 12:35:59 PM
That depends on whether said fans found Purnell to be a fraud during his time at Clemson as some of us did with Crean long before he bolted.
Your man-love for TC is showing again... :o   

GGGG

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 07, 2010, 12:35:59 PM
That depends on whether said fans found Purnell to be a fraud during his time at Clemson as some of us did with Crean long before he bolted.

I don't know why that makes a difference.


Quote from: augoman on April 07, 2010, 12:35:09 PM
I agree we should "let it go"..., but when someone kicks you in the crotch, you never forget it.

Yeah, but I don't talk about it for two years after it happens.

Canned Goods n Ammo

I would be surprised if any coach ever left "gracefully" anymore.

With the modern day media, it's hard to interview for a job, accept the position, and then find time to talk to all of your players in person before they find out. The information is going to leak very quickly.

Back in 1950, it was probably pretty easy to "be a man" and meet with your players. In 2010, it's just getting tougher and tougher.


PE8983

Depaul is paying well above his current $1.6M salary?  Wow.

avid1010

Quote from: 2002MUalum on April 07, 2010, 12:59:16 PM
I would be surprised if any coach ever left "gracefully" anymore.

With the modern day media, it's hard to interview for a job, accept the position, and then find time to talk to all of your players in person before they find out. The information is going to leak very quickly.

Back in 1950, it was probably pretty easy to "be a man" and meet with your players. In 2010, it's just getting tougher and tougher.

Doesn't meet you can't call a meeting with your players.  I understand TC leaving for IU.  I don't understand the manner in which TC left for IU.

GGGG

Quote from: PE8983 on April 07, 2010, 01:14:57 PM
Depaul is paying well above his current $1.6M salary?  Wow.

$15 million over 7 years.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: avid1010 on April 07, 2010, 01:16:05 PM
Doesn't meet you can't call a meeting with your players.  I understand TC leaving for IU.  I don't understand the manner in which TC left for IU.

I'm not referring to TC at all.

I'm just talking in generalities.

The media moves quick enough that a coach might not have an opportunity to accept the position, fly home, call a meeting and get all of his guys there to tell them.

I hope the new school will give that coach an opportunity before it is leaked, but I don't think that always happens.

I feel bad for the players, but it's hard for me to be super pissed at the coach because he doesn't always have control over everything.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: texaswarrior74 on April 07, 2010, 12:07:13 PM
At least his players didn't hear about it on ESPN but.....lack of class...I'm really disappointed in Purnell I though he was better than that.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=5059657

If you want to be honest about it, you wouldn't call it a Crean move....it's been done long long long before Crean ever did it.

Does it make it right?  Of course not, but that's the way these things are done many times, unfortunately.

The list of football and basketball coaches that have done this goes back many years if not decades.

PuertoRicanNightmare

Who cares how Crean left? People just use that as an excuse so they don't have to admit they never liked the a-hole.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 07, 2010, 12:35:59 PM
That depends on whether said fans found Purnell to be a fraud during his time at Clemson as some of us did with Crean long before he bolted.

Crean a fraud??

Man, if only our current fraud could get a Final Four, conference championship, and multiple NBA talents to campus we'll be set for the near future.  :)

DawsonCreekFillanderer

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 07, 2010, 01:29:16 PM
Who cares how Crean left? People just use that as an excuse so they don't have to admit they never liked the a-hole.

I disagree. The manner in which Tanned Tommy snuck out was gutless, spineless, and classless and it therefore epitomized who he is and what he is. Having said which, Tanned Tommy was known to be a fraudulent feather merchant long before the ESPN scroll informed his team that he had deserted them.

NersEllenson

Regardless of how Crean left, we need to be glad the guy did leave..and before he did leave, he hired Buzz Williams.  I hope Buzz can match the success Crean had in terms of leading us to a Final Four, but I have NO doubt that Buzz will get us more consistent Sweet 16 appearances than TC did, due to being a better recruiter.  The talent Buzz has assembled in this year's recruiting class, and last years -the fact that he is basically putting together a roster of 11-13 high-major players, is something that hasn't ever happened at MU.  Obviously, we need to see if the recruits live up to their hype, but at this point there can be no doubting that the talent level at MU will have never been as deep as its been this upcoming season (and the following.)
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

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Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: DawsonCreekFillanderer on April 07, 2010, 01:46:47 PM
I disagree. The manner in which Tanned Tommy snuck out was gutless, spineless, and classless and it therefore epitomized who he is and what he is. Having said which, Tanned Tommy was known to be a fraudulent feather merchant long before the ESPN scroll informed his team that he had deserted them.

What does it say about Purnell then?

madtownwarrior

While I may think Crean is an ahole (and did long before he left), I am now thankful he hired Buzz and then left - worked out great!  (unless your a current II,II fan)....

DawsonCreekFillanderer

Quote from: 2002MUalum on April 07, 2010, 02:03:55 PM
What does it say about Purnell then?

I could care less. Purnell did nothing to me, none of my friends worked with him, nor did he slap the face of my beloved alma mater and its community. Tanned Tommy, on the other hand, was routinely savagely rude to good people in many venues trying to do their best. He shat on his employer and his team but lacked the both the balls and character to handle his disengagement with dignity and honor. Have you ever seen someone screaming at the top of their lungs at someone in public or witnessed a customer belittling a clerk in a store. Weren't you embarassed to witness such behavior? That was how Crean treated people everyday. He is a puke.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: DawsonCreekFillanderer on April 07, 2010, 02:16:47 PM
I could care less. Purnell did nothing to me, none of my friends worked with him, nor did he slap the face of my beloved alma mater and its community. Tanned Tommy, on the other hand, was routinely savagely rude to good people in many venues trying to do their best. He shat on his employer and his team but lacked the both the balls and character to handle his disengagement with dignity and honor. Have you ever seen someone screaming at the top of their lungs at someone in public or witnessed a customer belittling a clerk in a store. Weren't you embarassed to witness such behavior? That was how Crean treated people everyday. He is a puke.

That's fine. I didn't find the guy so bad, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

My only point was this:

Quote from: DawsonCreekFillanderer on April 07, 2010, 01:46:47 PM
I disagree. The manner in which Tanned Tommy snuck out was gutless, spineless, and classless and it therefore epitomized who he is and what he is. Having said which, Tanned Tommy was known to be a fraudulent feather merchant long before the ESPN scroll informed his team that he had deserted them.

You specifically point out that the manner in which Crean left "epitomized who he is". Purnell left in a similar manner, so by your logic, does that "epitomize who he is"?

I bring up Purnell because it's an opportunity for people to see if they hate the act (leaving the players suddenly) or the guy.

Obviously you hate the guy, regardless.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: DawsonCreekFillanderer on April 07, 2010, 02:16:47 PM
I could care less. Purnell did nothing to me, none of my friends worked with him, nor did he slap the face of my beloved alma mater and its community. Tanned Tommy, on the other hand, was routinely savagely rude to good people in many venues trying to do their best. He shat on his employer and his team but lacked the both the balls and character to handle his disengagement with dignity and honor. Have you ever seen someone screaming at the top of their lungs at someone in public or witnessed a customer belittling a clerk in a store. Weren't you embarassed to witness such behavior? That was how Crean treated people everyday. He is a puke.

You must be a huge Kevin O'Neill fan then.

damuts222

QuoteRegardless of how Crean left, we need to be glad the guy did leave..and before he did leave, he hired Buzz Williams.

+1

Therefore do we need to hear the same opinions on Tom Crean in every thread. People have different opinions in which they are entitled to, but who are you trying to convince that he was an ahole? By this point it is evident on who hates Tom Crean because it is beaten to a pulp. Why don't you start a board specifically so you guys can all have a hate session together. Enough!!

Buzz Williams is our coach
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Dawson Rental

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 07, 2010, 12:21:38 PM

Hope they aren't as obsessed as some of us are and will let it go two years later.

Sultan see what you did.  You got round 93 of Crean was a jerk started.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: 2002MUalum on April 07, 2010, 12:59:16 PM
I would be surprised if any coach ever left "gracefully" anymore.

With the modern day media, it's hard to interview for a job, accept the position, and then find time to talk to all of your players in person before they find out. The information is going to leak very quickly.

Back in 1950, it was probably pretty easy to "be a man" and meet with your players. In 2010, it's just getting tougher and tougher.



How soon we forget.  Tod Kowalczyk to Toledo.  He talked to his team before he left.  And rather than giving them some B.S. about having to explore all his options, he flat out told them that if he were offered the position, he would probably take it.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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