Post realignment life- The Catholic Basketball league

[KipsBayEagle]

If major realignment does happen, what will become of the left over basketball only schools?  Will we be left in a world of non existence, or could we possibly find a new and interesting way to make lemonade out of lemons.  I present to you, the Catholic basketball league.
Marquette
St.Johns
Providence
Villanova
Georgetown
Notre Dame
Seton Hall
Depaul
Notre Dame
Xavier
Gonzaga
St. Marys

A few notes.  This is assuming Notre Dame stays independent.  I know that gonzaga and st. marys might seem like a stretch dude to distance, but I think they would readily accept and in terms of building a strong basketball conference they would be surely welcomed.  And I know this thread is kind of garbage, but damn it, its friday, still got an hour or two to kill at work, and this board is dead.

[Nukem2]

Yep, the Zags and the Gaels would not fit due to distance.  Add Dayton & St. Louis.

[Clam Crowder]

losing syracuse, wvu, and louisville would be tough losses for the conference

[KipsBayEagle]

Yep, the Zags and the Gaels would not fit due to distance.  Add Dayton & St. Louis.

Much rather have gonzaga and st. marys rather than dayton and st. louis.  I think one or 2 four hour flights a year is ok.

[TJ]

How is this different from last week's Catholic Basketball League discussion?  Or the one 3 weeks ago?

This is a disaster for Marquette, while not as big a disaster as the last proposal you made.  Keep all the lower level teams in the conference and replace Pitt, Louisville, Cincinnati, UConn, Syracuse, West Virginia, and USF with Xavier, Gonzaga, and St. Mary's - 3 nice programs, but they don't in any way replace what was lost.

It may be inevitable, but it is still bad for us.

[TJ]

Yep, the Zags and the Gaels would not fit due to distance.  Add Dayton & St. Louis.

Now the disaster becomes even worse.  At least the Zags left the new arrivals with some semblance of respectability.

[KipsBayEagle]

How is this different from last week's Catholic Basketball League discussion?  Or the one 3 weeks ago?

This is a disaster for Marquette, while not as big a disaster as the last proposal you made.  Keep all the lower level teams in the conference and replace Pitt, Louisville, Cincinnati, UConn, Syracuse, West Virginia, and USF with Xavier, Gonzaga, and St. Mary's - 3 nice programs, but they don't in any way replace what was lost.

It may be inevitable, but it is still bad for us.

Its not different at all, just bored and figure I would bring it up again.  Of course it is bad, but its not like we have any cards to play.  If it happens we will be hurt, that doesn't mean we can't talk about possible options if it does.

[Clam Crowder]

how is this inevitable. IMO the teams that left the big east a couple of years ago like Boston College, whose football programs have not improved like they thought they would now regret their decision. BC has gone from a solid basketball team in the big east, with a decent football team to a school that is rebuilding both teams. The big east losing schools like West Virginia, Pitt, and USF is very possible. Other schools like UCONN, and Syracuse need to focus on what gets them national attention which is not football.

[TJ]

Its not different at all, just bored and figure I would bring it up again.  Of course it is bad, but its not like we have any cards to play.  If it happens we will be hurt, that doesn't mean we can't talk about possible options if it does.

Do everything you can to keep things together.  That's the only option right now.  Like you said, MU may not have any say in that, but that's got to be the focus of the administration at this point.

If we are shut out, we're looking at options that range from disastrous to catastrophic.

[GGGG]

I'll say now what I said then...I would rather have schools like Butler involved than to create some sort of "Catholic" limitation.

[KipsBayEagle]

how is this inevitable. IMO the teams that left the big east a couple of years ago like Boston College, whose football programs have not improved like they thought they would now regret their decision. BC has gone from a solid basketball team in the big east, with a decent football team to a school that is rebuilding both teams. The big east losing schools like West Virginia, Pitt, and USF is very possible. Other schools like UCONN, and Syracuse need to focus on what gets them national attention which is not football.

Boston college makes three times the money it made in the big east.  I know a syracuse alum that is friends with the athletics director at BC who asked if Boston College if they would ever return to the big east.  The ad said that with the money they get from the acc, not a chance in hell.

[MU B2002]

Much rather have gonzaga and st. marys rather than dayton and st. louis.  I think one or 2 four hour flights a year is ok.

2 4 hour flights for our school yes, but 9 a piece for those 2 schools.

[Clam Crowder]

Its disappointing that money is what keeps BC in it because it appears that they have a long way to go and their basketball program is declining rapidly. When Skinner leaves I don't know what basketball coach would want to go there.

[KipsBayEagle]

2 4 hour flights for our school yes, but 9 a piece for those 2 schools.

I think St. marys and zaga would deal with the flights if it meant competing with some of the big boys.

[TJ]

how is this inevitable. IMO the teams that left the big east a couple of years ago like Boston College, whose football programs have not improved like they thought they would now regret their decision. BC has gone from a solid basketball team in the big east, with a decent football team to a school that is rebuilding both teams. The big east losing schools like West Virginia, Pitt, and USF is very possible. Other schools like UCONN, and Syracuse need to focus on what gets them national attention which is not football.

Sorry, I said "inevitable".  I just meant that it may happen, but it would be bad.  I don't think it's inevitable.  I do agree with Kips that MU probably doesn't have much say in whether it does or doesn't happen.

[GOMU1104]

I was wondering when this week's episode of "The Catholic Basketball Conference Proposal" would air.

Same time next week, folks!

[GGGG]

I think St. marys and zaga would deal with the flights if it meant competing with some of the big boys.

They fit in better with the WCC schools.  Dayton and St. Louis fit in better with the other schools you listed.

[TJ]

Boston college makes three times the money it made in the big east.  I know a syracuse alum that is friends with the athletics director at BC who asked if Boston College if they would ever return to the big east.  The ad said that with the money they get from the acc, not a chance in hell.

Why is there that much more money in the other conferences?  Just football revenue?

[GGGG]

Why is there that much more money in the other conferences?  Just football revenue?

Yes...and football revenue is much greater than basketball revenue.

[TJ]

I think St. marys and zaga would deal with the flights if it meant competing with some of the big boys.

Gonzaga is one of the big boys in that conference.  Face it, no one looks at us that way.  The only "Big Boys" in that conference are Nova and Georgetown - and there's no guarantee they wouldn't be absorbed by another conference even without football.

[Aughnanure]

Why does this always have to be limited to only Christian/Catholic schools? I for one would want Butler.

Why is Creighton always forgotten? Better program than St. Louis ever has been, is Jesuit, and it would help spread out league geographically so we are not the most western team.

[KipsBayEagle]

I was wondering when this week's episode of "The Catholic Basketball Conference Proposal" would air.

Same time next week, folks!

I know it gets brought up a lot, but quite honestly it should.  Marquette joining the big east was probally the single most important happening at the university since the 77 national championship (and i am not just talking about athletics)  The breaking up of the Big east would be the single most destructive thing, possibly ever, to happen to Marquette.  To be quite honest, I am shocked this isn't talked about more on this board.  Realignment is seeming more and more like an inevitability than a possibility, and if it does happen, all private school athletics could be dealt a crippling blow that might never be recovered from.  I know the same thread over and over is repetitive, but there needs to be more discussion on what Marquette would do post realignment, because I have a bad feeling this time next year the board will be flooded with this kind of talk.

[KipsBayEagle]

Gonzaga is one of the big boys in that conference.  Face it, no one looks at us that way.  The only "Big Boys" in that conference are Nova and Georgetown - and there's no guarantee they wouldn't be absorbed by another conference even without football.

I think you underestimate the reputation of Marquette Basketball.

[NersEllenson]

I'll say now what I said then...I would rather have schools like Butler involved than to create some sort of "Catholic" limitation.

Agree 100% with the above.  Also don't think it is beyond reason for some BCS conferences to add schools with very strong basketball programs, and no football team - Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova.  If the Big East has shown us anything, it is that you can have a 16-team league and do well. So, what's to stop the Big 10 or ACC, SEC, or Big 12 from picking up a few basketball only schools??  

[LON]

I'll say now what I said then...I would rather have schools like Butler involved than to create some sort of "Catholic" limitation.

100% agreed