Texas A&M's coach to Oregon?

[Ron Paul]

I know Chicos got lit up the other day for suggesting Houston was an interesting landing spot for Buzz, but I read this article by Seth Davis today and I will admit it freaked me out a little bit.

At the end of the day, a lot of people believe Oregon could end up with Texas A&M's Mark Turgeon, who coached there briefly as an assistant.

Davis does say that this is just a guess, what do you guys think?

[Canadian Dimes]

turgeon to oregon has long been discussed, not really worried about it but it could happen.  texas A&M is step down IMo, but who knows

[ChicosBailBonds]

I know Chicos got lit up the other day for suggesting Houston was an interesting landing spot for Buzz, but I read this article by Seth Davis today and I will admit it freaked me out a little bit.

At the end of the day, a lot of people believe Oregon could end up with Texas A&M's Mark Turgeon, who coached there briefly as an assistant.

Davis does say that this is just a guess, what do you guys think?

Why does this bother you?  Buzz will stay as long as Marquette will have him


And by the way, I never suggested Houston was a spot for Buzz, but a lot of people took it that way for some reason.

[Canadian Dimes]

Few is an Oregon grad

[79Warrior]

Why does this bother you?  Buzz will stay as long as Marquette will have him


And by the way, I never suggested Houston was a spot for Buzz, but a lot of people took it that way for some reason.

good response.

[GOMU1104]

Few is an Oregon grad

I doubt few is leaving Gonzaga.

Leon Rice, the Gonzaga Associate Head Coach and next in line if Few left, just took the Boise State job. If there was any chance at Few going to Oregon, Rice would have stuck around.

[Canadian Dimes]

I doubt few is leaving Gonzaga.

Leon Rice, the Gonzaga Associate Head Coach and next in line if Few left, just took the Boise State job. If there was any chance at Few going to Oregon, Rice would have stuck around.

hardly Boise st just signed Ben Mills

[GOMU1104]

hardly Boise st just signed Ben Mills

Mills has asked for his release from Boise State.

[GGGG]

turgeon to oregon has long been discussed, not really worried about it but it could happen.  texas A&M is step down IMo, but who knows

With all the potential instability in the BE, Texas A&M might just be a better job.  Especially if you are from there.

[The Lens]

With all the potential instability in the BE, Texas A&M might just be a better job.  Especially if you are from there.

Andy Katz said the other (in reference to Georgia Tech vs St John's) any football school job is better than a non football school job.  I doubt that that is Katz's personal opinion, but rather what numerous hoops coaches have told him.

[Canadian Dimes]

Andy Katz said the other (in reference to Georgia Tech vs St John's) any football school job is better than a non football school job.  I doubt that that is Katz's personal opinion, but rather what numerous hoops coaches have told him.

this just in Jay Wright to Northwestern

[GGGG]

this just in Jay Wright to Northwestern

Well, Katz was speaking in hyperbole, but seriously the way the money is flowing, it is hard not to argue that having a football program brings you resources that otherwise aren't available.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Well, Katz was speaking in hyperbole, but seriously the way the money is flowing, it is hard not to argue that having a football program brings you resources that otherwise aren't available.

He's absolutely right on the facilities side of the ledger, plus football covers many other expenses.  However, personal compensation for the coach and his staff can be another matter.  As much as football giveth, it taketh away, potentially, on the salary side of the ledger.

Many programs are extremely hesitant to pay the basketball coach more than the football coach because it sets off a number of negative chain reactions in the department.  First, the football staff is bigger.  Second, almost always the football staff brings in a ton more money with their program than basketball.  There are some exceptions out there where the basketball coach makes more than the football coach (Crean, Caliprari, etc), but typically those are at schools where basketball is traditionally the lead horse.

As a result, a basketball only school like Marquette, G.Town, etc doesn't have to worry about rocking the salary apple cart.....that is, if they have the money to pay to begin with.  Always a difficult question in light of no football.  Throw in the public vs private and the answer becomes a bit more complex.

[Canadian Dimes]

Thanks for enlightening everyone

[ChicosBailBonds]

Thanks for enlightening everyone

Mr. Hayward, it's always a pleasure.  Say hello to Blackswan, AhoyaBallScout, et al for me as well.

[wildbill sb]

Mr. Hayward, it's always a pleasure.  Say hello to Blackswan, AhoyaBallScout, et al for me as well.

CBB,
Wouldn't the prima facie evidence in those posts (the lack of any grammatical, mechanical errors) preclude the possibility that Mr. H is the man behind these various personnae? I don't know, but I'm thinking he's indisposed for whatever reason, as he doesn't strike me as the type to walk away from a confrontation, cyber or otherwise.  Obnoxious at times, he may be, cowardly, not a chance.

[ChicosBailBonds]

CBB,
Wouldn't the prima facie evidence in those posts (the lack of any grammatical, mechanical errors) preclude the possibility that Mr. H is the man behind these various personnae? I don't know, but I'm thinking he's indisposed for whatever reason, as he doesn't strike me as the type to walk away from a confrontation, cyber or otherwise.  Obnoxious at times, he may be, cowardly, not a chance.

You have a PM

[HouWarrior]

Turgeon is a Kansas alum who came to A&M from Wichita State (who had bumped him to $750k just one year prior). Reports place his salary at $1.5 mill at A &M, and they just finished a new practice facility.
A&M football is no 1 among alums, but lackluster Mike Sherman is barely hanging on.
As the alum/outside  $ needed to sweeten/buyout a likely football coach change this year, it seems unlikely Turgeon could now "Crean" an Oregon job  poss to get more $ to stay at A&M.
At Oregon, Kent had a $1mil contract with a 2008 amendment requiring a $1.5 mill payout on a firing.
For Oregon to pull off Turgeon there would be the $1.5 m Kent payout and at least again as much per year in new contract needed for Turgeon. Does Nike U have $3m handy?
Note: reports also have Oregon talking to Tubby Smith, who has an annual $1.8 mil at Minny, but lacks new practice facility.

Whether Turgeon, or Tubby, it seems Oregon is committed to try for a good one.

[HouWarrior]

BUZZ to A&M, if Turgeon goes to Oregon?   

BTW, because the Chicos UH post got me active here (I NEVER "took" an intimation of a Buzz to UH possibility) one should consider this:

1) If Turgeon goes to Oregon, the A&M job will be avail., with them planning minimum $1.5/year  in the budget to replace him, they have fancy arena and a new practice facility, and Aggies would love to kick UT and Barnes from BB throne in Tx(football rivalry w/UT has been all UT lately)...So...

Holy Chicos , we may have a real run soon made in Houston area to let you worry on, (but not on the UH job), it is:
--
2) Buzz W to Texas A&M! ...consider:

-they are surely aware of his key recruiting w/Gillespie's staff during his A&M tenure;

-Buzz already recruits the heck out of Houston and Texas area;

-Buzz is from Texas, and they'll give him all the sweet tea he wants;

-I dont know how A&M $ compares w/what MU pays or promises to pay, but Aggies will aggressively compete on $ , esp to get one of their former own, who has made good ,and  to induce his return to the Aggie family (see: Mike Sherman--former FB asst under Jackie Sherrill). Aggie alums are notorious for sweetening deals, buying out contracts, and making a deal work.

Aggies think only other Aggies "get" them (rituals etc), so Buzz is very uniquely attractive to them;

Big 12 BB (kansas, Baylor, UT, OSU, K-State) is healthy and comparable to BE (personally,I think BE is better), and as all Big 12 schools have football, the Athletics Dept $ and facilities are much bigger than BE, top to bottom;

To them,  Buzz is no longer just Billy G's good recruiter--he has shown he can coach at a high level. ;

Buzz' organizational skills are loved at the military/ag school environment of A&M;

Buzz would never see snow again, nor have to explain snow in milw to the thin blooded, cold averse Tx based recruits who come to MU;

All this is posted for fun, but can you hear the raspy voiced Buzz soon announcing..

."Its A&M, Its A&M, ...gig 'em Aggies, I am back home!"


Ha Ha--Have fun with this, esp. if Turgeon to Oregon heats up.

PS
Because some here seem to over read/intimate--I should note this-- I do not believe this will happen --Tubby Smith is much more Oregon's "type" of coach and Turgeon is said to like being in big 12, bec. his dream job is Kansas- he is a  Jayhwk, not an Aggie.

[ChicosBailBonds]

But Houwarrior, Buzz will be at Marquette as long as they will have him.  There is absolutely no reason to ever think he would go ANYWHERE else for any amount of money, any geographical relocation, any job, ever.

[Silky]

But Houwarrior, Buzz will be at Marquette as long as they will have him.  There is absolutely no reason to ever think he would go ANYWHERE else for any amount of money, any geographical relocation, any job, ever.

QUite the game you are playing with our current Marquette head coach's words, Chicos.  Question for you-Did you ever continually mock Tom Crean with his comments on here?  I recall you licking Crean's balls at every chance you could. 
Why now the hate for Buzz?  It's clear you are mocking his words.  Why? 

[ChicosBailBonds]

QUite the game you are playing with our current Marquette head coach's words, Chicos.  Question for you-Did you ever continually mock Tom Crean with his comments on here?  I recall you licking Crean's balls at every chance you could.  
Why now the hate for Buzz?  It's clear you are mocking his words.  Why?  

I'm not hating on Buzz at all, I just don't believe in coach speak so when they say they will stay in one place for as long as the school will have them....I don't believe it.

It's just coach speak and they all say it.  I hope he's here for 10 or 20 years, it means MU is doing extremely well.  No hatred my friend, but you're right, I don't believe any of these coaches when they say those words.

[Canadian Dimes]

well once again the question was not answered.  Chicos the poster asked why you did not mock everything Crean said?  yet you choose to mock everything Buzz says while making excuses for Creams failures at IU.

I wont expect an answer.   

[Golden Avalanche]

well once again the question was not answered.  Chicos the poster asked why you did not mock everything Crean said?  yet you choose to mock everything Buzz says while making excuses for Creams failures at IU.

I wont expect an answer.   

So dumb.


And douchey.

[MuMark]

Looks like Turgeon is staying put....per Katz.


http://twitter.com/ESPNAndyKatz