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77ncaachamps

Just thinking about recruiting and Marquette...and his name came to mind.

I don't recall hearing or reading any news about any trials or sentencing.

Anyone know?
SS Marquette

94Warrior

The guy admitted to rape.  Stop wondering about his basketball future.  If he has one, it won't be at MU.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: 94Warrior on March 20, 2010, 11:51:33 PM
The guy admitted to rape.  Stop wondering about his basketball future.  If he has one, it won't be at MU.

Okay. Thanks. When was the decision released?
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94Warrior

Did you read the affidavit?  He's not MU material. 

Nobody with the athletic dept can publicly comment on an unsigned recruit, so you will never see anything released.  We have moved on, you should do the same.

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willie warrior

Our past few big man recruits have ended up in the hospital, or one in the slammer! Not very good.

We need some bigs that can play!
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

schubert33

Quote from: 94Warrior on March 21, 2010, 12:04:47 AM
Did you read the affidavit?  He's not MU material. 

Nobody with the athletic dept can publicly comment on an unsigned recruit, so you will never see anything released.  We have moved on, you should do the same.

He was just asking, you need to relax!!!!!!!!!!!!

94Warrior

Quote from: schubert33 on March 21, 2010, 12:28:04 PM
He was just asking, you need to relax!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did I insult or attack him?  No, I simply responded similarly to how this question has been answered dozens of times over the last 6 months.  Some people want to give him the benefit of the doubt because he is 6'10" and athletic.  I see him as a violent criminal and don't want him anywhere near the MU campus. 
Thanks for your contribution, shubert. 

LA

He never said that he wanted him at MU....you just keep insisting that he is not MU material and no one disagrees. All he asked about was whether his case was resolved.

GOMU1104

All 3 men were indicted by a grand jury and are free on bond, awaiting trial.

MarquetteDano

Quote from: GOMU1104 on March 21, 2010, 02:44:23 PM
All 3 men were indicted by a grand jury and are free on bond, awaiting trial.

Eight replies in and someone finally actually replies to the question.  Thank you, MU1104.

77ncaachamps

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mueron



Did anyone read the affidavit? This guy is a criminal!  ;)

94Warrior

Quote from: GoldenSox on March 21, 2010, 08:24:47 PM


Did anyone read the affidavit? This guy is a criminal!  ;)

GoldernSox,
I'm not sure how to take your post.  Are you saying rape is no big deal?  Or are you saying everyone is innocent until proven guilty (even if they admit to a crime in a sworn statement)?  Let me guess, you are a public defender. 

Either way, your cavalier attitude is embarrassing.  ;)

Ari Gold

Quote from: 94Warrior on March 21, 2010, 02:16:24 PM
Did I insult or attack him?  No, I simply responded similarly to how this question has been answered dozens of times over the last 6 months. 

No need to be a giant dick about it though.
and I'm not sure it's been answered dozens of times. 77ncaachamps was the first person that asked about it, at least that I've read

94Warrior


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Quote from: 94Warrior on March 21, 2010, 08:36:13 PM
GoldernSox,
I'm not sure how to take your post.  Are you saying rape is no big deal?  Or are you saying everyone is innocent until proven guilty (even if they admit to a crime in a sworn statement)?  Let me guess, you are a public defender. 

Either way, your cavalier attitude is embarrassing.  ;)

Why the cheap shot at public defenders?
Is it your position that everyone is entitled to their constitutional right to defend themselves in court ... unless they're poor?
Or that the (often overworked and underpaid) people who provide said constitutional rights are lesser citizens because of it?

(In the interest of full disclosure, I am not a public defender ... but think those that have a beef with them are dopes who fail who understand our system of justice, which relies upon public defenders to function.)

p.s. That was not Monterale Clark's sworn affidavit. It was the affidavit of the cop that arrested him. I don't know what Clark did or didn't do, but given the incident, I'm happy he's not coming to Marquette. At the same time, I've been around the legal system enough to know that an affidavit from a cop isn't always the most reliable document on the planet. Defendants and lawyers aren't the only members of the criminal justice system who twist things to suit their agendas.

muhoosier260

Quote from: 94Warrior on March 21, 2010, 08:41:47 PM
I guess I'm still cranky from Thurs. :-*

Guess so, thats quite a hangover. I don't think Clark is completely innocent, but this wasn't even his statement, this was a cop's statement. From the affadavit, it doesn't sound like Clark admitted half of what he was accused of. Chill out, this isn't a court of law clarence darrow, it was a curious inquiry.

SacWarrior

Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2010, 11:35:01 PM
Why the cheap shot at public defenders?
Is it your position that everyone is entitled to their constitutional right to defend themselves in court ... unless they're poor?
Or that the (often overworked and underpaid) people who provide said constitutional rights are lesser citizens because of it?

(In the interest of full disclosure, I am not a public defender ... but think those that have a beef with them are dopes who fail who understand our system of justice, which relies upon public defenders to function.)

p.s. That was not Monterale Clark's sworn affidavit. It was the affidavit of the cop that arrested him. I don't know what Clark did or didn't do, but given the incident, I'm happy he's not coming to Marquette. At the same time, I've been around the legal system enough to know that an affidavit from a cop isn't always the most reliable document on the planet. Defendants and lawyers aren't the only members of the criminal justice system who twist things to suit their agendas.

I'm gonna agree with you on the public defender part. That's the toughest job in America, you're overstaffed, underpaid, never thanked, and a lot of the time you have to defend people you know are guilty. But someone HAS to do it. Our legal system would grind to a halt without public defenders, and they should be applauded for doing such an awful, thankless job.

94Warrior

Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2010, 11:35:01 PM
Why the cheap shot at public defenders?
Is it your position that everyone is entitled to their constitutional right to defend themselves in court ... unless they're poor?
Or that the (often overworked and underpaid) people who provide said constitutional rights are lesser citizens because of it?

(In the interest of full disclosure, I am not a public defender ... but think those that have a beef with them are dopes who fail who understand our system of justice, which relies upon public defenders to function.)

p.s. That was not Monterale Clark's sworn affidavit. It was the affidavit of the cop that arrested him. I don't know what Clark did or didn't do, but given the incident, I'm happy he's not coming to Marquette. At the same time, I've been around the legal system enough to know that an affidavit from a cop isn't always the most reliable document on the planet. Defendants and lawyers aren't the only members of the criminal justice system who twist things to suit their agendas.

No, I am not saying that only the rich are entitled to their constitutional right to defend themselves.  In fact, I made no reference to Clark's socio-economic status whatsoever.  I did say he loses the benefit of the doubt when he makes a false statement, retracts his lie, and ultimately admits to a VERY SERIOUS crime.  We're not talking about stolen cell phones or laptops here.

I am not sure why everyone is so quick to run to the guy's defense.  He should be behind bars, not running up and down Al McGuire's Court.  Are you people that desperate for a Big Guy?  And please don't tell me the OP's wonderment about recruiting and his curiousity about Clark's legal status were purely coincidental.  We need to stop pining for this guy and get some perspective!   

As for public defenders... Never mind, I already have one ax to grind with government control of health care.  This country is in trouble. :-[

GGGG

Quote from: 94Warrior on March 22, 2010, 04:02:39 AM
No, I am not saying that only the rich are entitled to their constitutional right to defend themselves.  In fact, I made no reference to Clark's socio-economic status whatsoever.  I did say he loses the benefit of the doubt when he makes a false statement, retracts his lie, and ultimately admits to a VERY SERIOUS crime.  We're not talking about stolen cell phones or laptops here.

I am not sure why everyone is so quick to run to the guy's defense.  He should be behind bars, not running up and down Al McGuire's Court.  Are you people that desperate for a Big Guy? 


Pakuni specifically said that he doesn't want Clark at MU. 

Warriors4ever

Wow, I don't want you on my jury.  The presumption of innocence even belongs to Monterale Clark.   He hasn't been tried anywhere yet, except apparently by you.   No one is saying to put him on the team. 
And if you're against public defenders, I suggest you reread the Bill of Rights.  Or perhaps read it for the first time.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: 94Warrior on March 22, 2010, 04:02:39 AM
I am not sure why everyone is so quick to run to the guy's defense.  He should be behind bars, not running up and down Al McGuire's Court.  Are you people that desperate for a Big Guy?  And please don't tell me the OP's wonderment about recruiting and his curiousity about Clark's legal status were purely coincidental.  We need to stop pining for this guy and get some perspective!   

I didn't see anyone running to his defense. I read a post where someone asked what had become of the situation. He made no mention of wanting Clark to play for Marquette. True, the wonderment likely was not coincidental considering he was thinking about MU's recruiting and Clark is a former MU recruit. If I said that I was thinking about players who transferred from MU and then asked what happened to Matt Mortensen, would that mean I wanted him back on the team?

Based on your other posts, it's fitting that you declared the original poster guilty of wanting Clark on the team without having enough evidence and without giving him a fair trial  :)

bamamarquettefan

Sure, I wish a big-time big man without problems would come to campus, but I'm not down on going with Otule and Mbao.

I believe the most blocked shots we've had this decade was 43 by Dwyane Wade, and I believe all that was missing from wins against Stanford, Missouri and Washington was the threat of a blocked shot so that opponents would have to think twice before driving, and alter their shots.

When McIlvaine blocked 142 shots in 1994, opponents hit only 35% of their field goals TOTAL.  We won't get that again, but Otule blocked a shot every five minutes (5 in 25 minutes), and Mbao blocked 5 in 60 minutes.  So basically, they had just over two full games between them and blocked 10 shots.  I know that's a small sample, but I am really excited that Buzz will have the option of a shot blocker so that opponents don't hit over half of their two pointers against us.

With all the studs we will have scoring, I'll take my chances with 4 unstoppable guys on offense even if our center just sits back on defense and denies the rim.
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