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warriorfred

Just thought i would get the ball rolling.   Lot of bailout calls for UW.

marquetteff03

not going to go pure homer here. It is bad all the way around. This is the NCAA tourney, swallow the whistle and let them play.

BaltimoreMC

a lot of off-ball fouls on us...I'm sure that 1/2 of 'em are retaliations from elbows from UW.  Also, Zar was called for a moving screen and the very next play, UW player set a much worse moving screen that was a no call....

duanewade

The block call on DJO that was actually a charge was a joke....referree wanted to please the majority Washington audience with an exciting and one call.....prior to that Jimmy had two no calls on him....also we spit too many free throws - need to knock them both down.   

MarquetteDano

As I said in the other thread.... don't blame the refs.  We are used to the Big East where you can hack away.  You have to adjust.  It is up to Buzz to tell them the  game is being called tight and adjust.

If the fouls continue to pile up early in 2nd half we may have to play more zone... less fouling.

chapman

Quote from: Michaelindz on March 18, 2010, 07:53:47 PM
not going to go pure homer here. It is bad all the way around. This is the NCAA tourney, swallow the whistle and let them play.

Agree.  Some head scratchers, but they went both ways.  As far as ours, a moving screen on Hayward?  He does that move, holding the position with .001 of a second consistency every game and hasn't been called that all year.  Second one was the UW player going in out of control, trying to draw a foul rather than make the gimme basket and gliding through the air to try to land on DJO on the other side of the block.  Can't call a foul on DJO on that.

AZWarrior

Quote from: Michaelindz on March 18, 2010, 07:53:47 PM
not going to go pure homer here. It is bad all the way around. This is the NCAA tourney, swallow the whistle and let them play.

Agreed - the refs have to realize the game is about the players.  Swallow the whistle.
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

romey

Quote from: chapman on March 18, 2010, 08:00:37 PM
Agree.  Some head scratchers, but they went both ways.  As far as ours, a moving screen on Hayward?  He does that move, holding the position with .001 of a second consistency every game and hasn't been called that all year.  Second one was the UW player going in out of control, trying to draw a foul rather than make the gimme basket and gliding through the air to try to land on DJO on the other side of the block.  Can't call a foul on DJO on that.

That was horrible! DJO was going away from the contact.



romey

How is that not a walk!!!! He jump stops, then takes another step after hesitating to where he jumped from!!  Foul on hayward - his third

AZWarrior

Now....I'm starting to think the refs have money on the game.   ?-(
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

MUEng92

These refs are threatening to really become a storyline in this game. 

DavidDiggsDawg

How was there NO foul on that ENTIRE series? Nothing when Cubi, Lazar, or Jimmy were shooting and getting hacked underneath?


THIS IS HORRIBLE!
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DawgDentist

Wow. Blame the refs, that is classic. You're coach pulled you out of your game when you were up big, as a UW fan I noticed that big time. You also quit playing D since your bench is so thin no one wants to get into foul trouble, you were NOT the aggressors, you can't afford to be, that's what happens when you play 6 players. UW runs 10 or 11 deep at times we can afford to be aggressive. Bottom line is that your coach pulled in the reigns at the wrong time.

MerrittsMustache

The aggressors get the calls. Games are called that way from middle school through the pros. UW bumps and hacks and scratches and shoves and they get away with it because that's the way the play every possession. The PG rode Acker the whole game and didn't get called for a foul for it once. MU got passive when the calls started going against them and passiveness leads to fouls. End of story.


what the fulce?

Quote from: DawgDentist on March 18, 2010, 09:25:05 PM
Wow. Blame the refs, that is classic. You're coach pulled you out of your game when you were up big, as a UW fan I noticed that big time. You also quit playing D since your bench is so thin no one wants to get into foul trouble, you were NOT the aggressors, you can't afford to be, that's what happens when you play 6 players. UW runs 10 or 11 deep at times we can afford to be aggressive. Bottom line is that your coach pulled in the reigns at the wrong time.

I'm sorry, you must not have missed the game. Multiple times I was shocked, mostly calls against us but also calls for us. Wishful thinking tells me that maybe Big East games are a little bit more physical but I might be a little bit biased. To go after anyone is unfair; it was a hard fought game on both sides and ultimately it came down to a player making a play at the right time. I can't say I expected anything other than a close game but this definitely wasn't on Buzz. What's worse, losing and complaining about officiating or winning and complaining about the opponent? Peace.

LastWarrior

I didn't think it was called evenly.  Seemed like it was either a Pac 10 crew or they just let the emotion of the crowd persuade them that UW was the home team.  That  said, we BLEW A 15 POINT LEAD with 12 minutes to go!
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GGGG

Quote from: what the fulce? on March 18, 2010, 09:53:56 PM
I'm sorry, you must not have missed the game. Multiple times I was shocked, mostly calls against us but also calls for us. Wishful thinking tells me that maybe Big East games are a little bit more physical but I might be a little bit biased.


I think you are right on both counts....  Closely called.  Consistently called.

Guy Fieri's Dad

Quote from: chapman on March 18, 2010, 08:00:37 PM
Agree.  Some head scratchers, but they went both ways.  As far as ours, a moving screen on Hayward?  He does that move, holding the position with .001 of a second consistency every game and hasn't been called that all year.  Second one was the UW player going in out of control, trying to draw a foul rather than make the gimme basket and gliding through the air to try to land on DJO on the other side of the block.  Can't call a foul on DJO on that.

your wrong. the calls did not go both ways!

Guy Fieri's Dad

Please someone explain how this game was called evenly?  since some people think it was...i'm all eyes/ears

Aughnanure

Quote from: universitypark on March 18, 2010, 10:16:17 PM
Please someone explain how this game was called evenly?  since some people think it was...i'm all eyes/ears

+1, there is no argument but there are always fans who hate very thread about officiating....somehow trick themselves that NCAA refs aren't EXTREMELY influential in games, if not the most influential force at the end of a game
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

GGGG

Quote from: universitypark on March 18, 2010, 10:16:17 PM
Please someone explain how this game was called evenly?  since some people think it was...i'm all eyes/ears


How am I supposed to explain how the game was called evenly?  Chicos mentioned it in another post.  They called it close in the first half - let them play more in the second half.  Yeah they missed some...they're human.  However it wasn't ridiculously called or biased.

MUfan12

On the whole, I don't think it was all that bad.

I know I'll probably get raked across the coals for this, but here goes. I actually watched much of the game with Jerry Palm, and he made an interesting observation. There was a ticky tack reach on Acker late in the game, and he made the comment that it was a bad call considering the contact that was being allowed on the other end.

Again, take it for what it's worth, but that's the only call I heard a complaint about from a pretty unbiased source.

Aughnanure

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I don't blame the officials entirely, but they do have a certain amount of blame I cannot help but put on them. My biggest problem is people who somehow believing that officials in basketball (the sport most open for biased officiating BY FAR)are untouchable or should never be held accountable.

We have accepted crappy officiating for so long in basketball that its gotten too old to simply dismiss criticism....it shouldn't be an accepted part of the sport....name me another sport where the game is called completely differently depending on who is a ref and where it is played (I don't care if you like KU, but no team should be winning 58+ straight games at home).
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

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