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4everwarriors

Translation:

Tim Maymon felt Jeronne should start, not have to play in the paint, and have the offense run through him.

End of story, adios MF'er and the horse you rode in on.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Mike Deane

I think Buzz looked drained in the video.

Doris Burkes Thong

Quote from: Mike Deane on December 17, 2009, 06:48:16 PM
I think Buzz looked drained in the video.

Well, he's still recovering from the run he went on from Milwaukee to Indianapolis. ;D

VegasWarrior77

Has he finished the run or did that fade away?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

ToddRosiakSays

Buzz on Maymon
               


Just got back from MU's media availability at the Bradley Center, and wanted to post a couple of comments from coach Buzz Williams regarding Jeronne Maymon and the situation regarding his quitting the Golden Eagles.

These are Williams' first public comments since everything went down on Monday. I'll fill in with a complete transcript later this evening.

UPDATE: This is the complete transcript, with regard to the Maymon situation.
               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/79566672.html
               

ToddRosiakSays

Buzz on Maymon
               


Just got back from MU's media availability at the Bradley Center, and wanted to post a couple of comments from coach Buzz Williams regarding Jeronne Maymon and the situation regarding his quitting the Golden Eagles.

These are Williams' first public comments since everything went down on Monday. I'll fill in with a complete transcript later this evening.

UPDATE: This is the complete transcript, with regard to the Maymon situation. I've also added Jimmy Butler on at the end.
               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/79566672.html
               

Freeport Warrior

Quote from: Jay Bee on December 17, 2009, 06:34:40 PM
 Hey, hey.. let's leave the Zips out of this.  (plus, they have the following dudes: 7'0" (top 100 recruit, freshman, getting nice minutes), 6'10", 6'9", 6'8")

More tounge-in-cheek, but I see one 7-footer and one 6' 8" dude.

No.   Player   Position   Height   Weight
15   Carroll, Tim   F   6'5"   215   Sr
32   Conyers, Jimmy   F   6'5"   220   Gs1
13   Cvetinovic, NikolaF   6'8"   230   So
24   Hitchens,Humpty   G   5'9"   168   So
44   Marshall, Zeke   C   7'0"   218   Fr
5   McClanahan, B   G   6'4"   185   S0
--   Oldham, C.J.   F   6'5"   185   Fr
2   Petersen, Kyle   G   6'4"   180   So
3   Sullivan, Alex   G   5'10"   175   So


rocky_warrior

I have to post these two parts of the transcript, because, well, they say a lot...

Quote
What's the mood of the team? "I found out about the meeting Monday morning, I met with our administration Monday at 1. I met with J-May's family a little after 2. We were scheduled to practice at 3:30 -- our schedule's been whacked out all week because it's finals -- so I immediately told our team at 3:30 in the locker room. Told them exactly what I'm telling you guys. We visited, they shared what they had to share, I shared what I had to share -- in essence, this -- and then we practiced. I love J-May. J-May's a really good kid. He's fun to be around, he did really good academically; the grades haven't been posted yet. Again, I think he was growing, and I'm not trying to turn it into, 'It's Buzz Williams against Tim Maymon.' I don't have anything against Tim Maymon. He believed in his heart that this wasn't the right place, and if you're going to work every day -- it is going to be a grind -- then you have to have both feet in, and that includes your heart. That's it."

Is Maymon's decision to quit tough on you personally, considering he was your first in-state recruit, and you seemed to have developed a good relationship with him? "Yeah, I want everybody to be as good as they can be. I remember when I took the job, we had three scholarships open, and I remember all that you asked in that question -- you know me well enough to know that I could literally verbatim tell you the deal -- we signed Jimmy and everybody's like, 'Who is this? Oh, that's Joe's teammate.' And everybody thought Joe was the stud and Jimmy was the bring-along guy. And then Erik Williams had committed when Coach Crean was the head coach and it was, 'Oh, is he going to stay committed?' Then he stayed committed. And now it's, 'Well, why isn't he playing? Buzz, that was your guy and you're not playing him.' I understand. He is my guy and he's not playing, but he's still my guy. You know? And then J-May, I had never seen J-May and I met J-May and his parents when they were on campus two weeks after I got the job. I mean, even though you're a coach that doesn't mean that you're not a human. I know that I try to act tough, and in some ways I am tough, but as a human being I really love people -- and I mean this in the right way; I think that's part of the reason God put me here -- and I love every one of those kids on our team. And that includes Jeronne Maymon. And even though all that has transpired and I can't speak specifically about recruits that didn't make it or whatever, I have attachments to those guys because I built a trustful relationship with them. So when things don't work out, I'm not concerned about what you say or anybody else would say. I'm concerned about my relationship with them. I talk to Pat Hazel every week. Pat Hazel was here two weeks ago, in the locker room. That's my guy. You've been to practice, and if you watched practice you would not perceive him to be 'my guy'. But he's my guy. And wherever J-May goes, I literally wish him nothing but the best, and he'll still be my guy. And I think he'll still be friends with our players."

Sorry J-May, I know he's family and all, but pretty soon you're gonna' have to tell dad that you're too old for him to be making your decisions.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 17, 2009, 07:35:15 PM

Sorry J-May, I know he's family and all, but pretty soon you're gonna' have to tell dad that you're too old for him to be making your decisions.

Well said

Daniel

Now that we have heard the story from Buzz, it is abundantly clear that this choice, whose ever it was, was a wrong one for JMay.  There is no way, with the reasons they advanced, that this was a great choice for this kid.  "He could have been a contender . . ."

jpvegas

I heard that the no transfer to Wisconsin was Bo Ryan's request.

MR.HAYWARD

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 17, 2009, 06:43:31 PM
Thanks for the link....great video, nice comments, appreciate Buzz's honesty and the way he handled it.

Buzz should grow his hair out a bit as he has in the video.   ;D

buzz cuts his hair before every game

TomW1365

#37


It's funny that Chico's Bail Bonds mention ISU as the type of school that may work for Maymon... The other day I was talking with a friend and when thinking of Jeronne Maymon's game, we both compared him to a former Illinois State star Rico Hill.  Rico had the same body as Maymon and was a hell of a player at Brother Rice HS and lead us past a Donovan McNabb and Antoine Walker lead Mt Carmel team in the state semi-finals.  He played 3 years at ISU then went pro after his Junior season and ended up not making it out of the D-League.  His situation was similar because he had alot of family that was telling him to leave early.  ISU was a good fit (and could be for Maymon) because he was able to bang inside with his wide body in a less than first rate conferance.  At any rate, I'm disgusted by the Maymon family's poor judgement and selfishness.  Unfortunately, Jeronne isn't the first to be guided by the misguided and certainly won't be the last.  Hopefully MU is able to pick up the pieces this year and develop these young guys.  

ecompt

J-May's dad is very fortunate his son did not grow up in Chicago or New York, where his son would have been an also-ran among great talent. I cannot see another Top 200 Division I coach running his offense through a 6-6 forward who is not especially quick and does not want to come anywhere near the basket. I feel sorry for J-May; I do not feel sorry for his fool of a father. 

chapman

Buzz definitely impressed in the video.  I thought some generic coachspeak would be the safe way to go, but he was definitely better than that.  I'm surprised how aware he is of all the criticism to some of the things that go on (practically seems to be an MU Scoop lurker).  Also surprised that he talks to Hazel weekly and that Hazel came to visit a couple weeks ago.  Not that parting ways with Pat wasn't the right decision for both parties, especially at the time it was made, but we could use his body and a team player like that about now.

mviale

You heard it here first. Davante Gardner will be a Beast this year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27259

Doris Burkes Thong

Quote from: mviale on December 17, 2009, 09:06:15 PM
Pat hazel available?

Yep, he's a unrestricted free agent so he's elgible to be picked up by anyone.

ecompt

Hazel didn't transfer, he simply quit school?

4everwarriors

Last I heard he transferred to BU. Sitting out this year, though.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on December 17, 2009, 08:45:44 PM
buzz cuts his hair before every game

I thought he looked pretty good with the 5 o'clock shadow on the dome.  Not that I'm into him or anything....not that there's anything wrong with that, or course.

warthog-driver

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 17, 2009, 09:46:36 PM
I thought he looked pretty good with the 5 o'clock shadow on the dome.  Not that I'm into him or anything....not that there's anything wrong with that, or course.

chico admires our buzz
chrome dome sprouting some fuzz
he then made made a pass
patting the texan on the ass
it was the last thing chico ever does

Lighthouse 84

Quote from: Stone Cold on December 17, 2009, 05:08:40 PM
That's probably the Vander clause??
that actually makes a lot of sense stone...
HILLTOP SENIOR SURVEY from 1984 Yearbook: 
Favorite Drinking Establishment:

1. The Avalanche.              7. Major Goolsby's.
2. The Gym.                      8. Park Avenue.
3. The Ardmore.                 9. Mugrack.
4. O'Donohues.                 10. Lighthouse.
5. O'Pagets.
6. Hagerty's.

warthog-driver

Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on December 17, 2009, 09:49:33 PM
that actually makes a lot of sense stone...

he called it the vander clause
a defensive measure it was
tim maymon may think
that vander is a fink
for bo ryan's filthy paws

farmdaddy

Quote from: TomW1365 on December 17, 2009, 08:48:55 PM

It's funny that Chico's Bail Bonds mention ISU as the type of school that may work for Maymon... The other day I was talking with a friend and when thinking of Jeronne Maymon's game, we both compared him to a former Illinois State star Rico Hill.  Rico had the same body as Maymon and was a hell of a player at Brother Rice HS and lead us past a Donovan McNabb and Antoine Walker lead Mt Carmel team in the state semi-finals.  He played 3 years at ISU then went pro after his Junior season and ended up not making it out of the D-League.  His situation was similar because he had alot of family that was telling him to leave early.  ISU was a good fit (and could be for Maymon) because he was able to bang inside with his wide body in a less than first rate conferance.  At any rate, I'm disgusted by the Maymon family's poor judgement and selfishness.  Unfortunately, Jeronne isn't the first to be guided by the misguided and certainly won't be the last.  Hopefully MU is able to pick up the pieces this year and develop these young guys.  


If he went to ISU he would have some battles with Diamond Taylor at SIU

warthog-driver

Quote from: farmdaddy on December 17, 2009, 10:05:28 PM

If he went to ISU he would have some battles with Diamond Taylor at SIU

one sees life through a myopic lens
the other takes ipods from friends
as to which one is worse
it's a terrible curse
for a father who can't make amends

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