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Big Papi

More than just guarding the 5 position, I think Maymon wanted more opportunities on the offensive end than he has received.  Up until now it has been setting a lot of picks, getting dishes down low off of drives and whatever else he could get off the boards from offensive rebounding.  Rumor has it Maymon's dad and Buzz got into a heated argument not too long ago about Maymon's role but that is all hearsay at the moment.

avid1010

Quote from: Rocco on December 14, 2009, 09:18:47 PM
I disagree, why do we have to wish him luck?  He screws the program after making a committment and Im supposed to wish him luck?  I hope ends up like ODB and regrets leaving for the rest of his life.

because he's 18 or 19 years old....

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: Rocco on December 14, 2009, 09:18:47 PM
I disagree, why do we have to wish him luck?  He screws the program after making a committment and Im supposed to wish him luck?  I hope ends up like ODB and regrets leaving for the rest of his life.

I don't necessarily think you're too off track here but the people are saying let's wait until the Tennessee story becomes official, even if you know it to be true, and then your line of thinking is confirmed.

Also, Maymon was promised the 2 spot by Buzz? I assumed it was the 3 but if he was promised the 2 I now have to wonder what the unnatural carnal knowledge Buzz was trying to pull on that.

Roseboro, Acker, and Maymon. Three very interesting player developments spotlighting Buzz.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: mufanatic on December 14, 2009, 09:58:10 PM
More than just guarding the 5 position, I think Maymon wanted more opportunities on the offensive end than he has received.  Up until now it has been setting a lot of picks, getting dishes down low off of drives and whatever else he could get off the boards from offensive rebounding.  Rumor has it Maymon's dad and Buzz got into a heated argument not too long ago about Maymon's role but that is all hearsay at the moment.

yes, so lets propagate the rumor.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 14, 2009, 10:01:01 PM
yes, so lets propagate the rumor.



Everyone in the Madison area code said that Mr. Maymon had an impulsive personality that would most likely create some headaches for a young coach like Buzz so it's not exactly a crazy thing to have out there.

NCMUFan

I heard he is transfering to Miami-Dade to take over Trevor's spot.

Warrior of Law

If Maymon's old man even has access to talk to the coach (other than greetings outside the locker room) that's a real problem.  I wouldn't be surprised if Buzz is pretty relieved to be done with the nonsense.
"You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free."  Clarence Darrow

KipsBayEagle

I hear Maymon left because he became addicted to DJ Hero.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 14, 2009, 07:57:41 PM
Don't worry, Buzz will fix it....oh, and Vander Blue coming to MU..............

Much as it will disappoint you looks like Vander is still committed to MU.

martyconlonontherun

Lose-Lose situation for everyone:

Even if it isn't Buzz's fault, it is never good for a top recruit to leave. Recruits will start questioning why these guys left.

The team is dramatically worse whether you're a fan of J-May or not, we weren't a deep team to begin with.

J-May's going to get a bad image for this and I don't see him ever working out as a 2/3. He's a PF, he needs to accept that.

Tim Maymon needs to grow up. Whether those Buzz convos are true or not, he is destroying his son's reputation.

The bright side:
Vander Blue is still here.
We have a chance to replace Maymon's spot with a player tough enough to guard 4/5s

damuts222

QuoteIf Maymon's old man even has access to talk to the coach (other than greetings outside the locker room) that's a real problem.

 If that really happened then good riddance, but it is hearsay. This isn't AYSO. I don't know what Buzz promised him, but promises don't mean
anything if you can't perform and play hard, which he has, but you earn throughout time (see Jimmy Butler)
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MUSF

Quote from: Warrior of Law on December 14, 2009, 10:05:31 PM
If Maymon's old man even has access to talk to the coach (other than greetings outside the locker room) that's a real problem.  I wouldn't be surprised if Buzz is pretty relieved to be done with the nonsense.

Come on, parents often have a relationship with the coach including the opportunity to pick up a phone and contact them anytime, or meet with them personally.  That is hardly a "real problem."  It is more like a coach establishing a relationship with a concerned parent who is sending their child away to college.

As for the speculation regarding Tim, we can't be surprised.  In fact, I believe I warned someone here to proceed with caution when they wanted to celebrate a lack of drama with the Maymons a month or two ago.  We were warned, Buzz took a necessary risk that didn't work out, and we move on.

In the words of coach Dale, "This is your team!"

MUBurrow

QuoteRoseboro, Acker, and Maymon. Three very interesting player developments spotlighting Buzz.

Cmon, we don't honestly think this constitutes a track record, do we?  Acker was a transfer that was directly tied to a recently graduated Jerel. At the time Mo wasn't going to get enough PT to make it fair for him to remain on the team.  With the young, guard heavy class coming in, I wouldn't be surprised to find this both Mo's and Buzz's decision at the time.
 Roseboro was an inherited recruit (remember he signed in October of Buzz's first year) who by his own admission never was in close contact with Buzz.  That seemed to me like the locking down of a recruit right away, simply to not botch an entire recruiting cycle.
 The Maymon thing now is interesting.  I have no idea what lead to his decision, but hope that he finds whatever it is he is looking for.  This isn't a matter of a kid screwing us over or anything else that people just looking to get mad will assert.  He is a 18-19 year old kid just starting college.  As such, this is much more life changing for him than it is for anyone affiliated with the university.  Being a freshman in athletics is hard enough, and if he isn't going to be happy, the relationship will not be good for him nor anyone else.  You just can't look at this like a player signing a professional contract.  That school represents you the rest of your life, its not just the logo that signs a paycheck.  So lets all think before we type, lest we be mistaken for UW-Marquette.

Freeport Warrior

Quote from: Rocco on December 14, 2009, 09:05:14 PM
He will transfer to Tennessee and play more of the 2 and 3(which Buzz promised him in the first place).  You heard it here first!
I'm sure he could eventually work into a 3 with EWill and Mbao/Otule at 4 and 5, but a 2?? That has to be a joke. Let's hope he pulls an Acker and gets his stuff straightened out. Going back to the Mbwake transfer, it sure has been a drama-filled year with injuries and transfers. When will it end?

rocky_warrior

Quote from: MUBurrow on December 14, 2009, 10:14:58 PM
 Roseboro was an inherited recruit (remember he signed in October of Buzz's first year) who by his own admission never was in close contact with Buzz.  That seemed to me like the locking down of a recruit right away, simply to not botch an entire recruiting cycle.

Actually - Roseboro was signed by Buzz - just after he "blew up" in a Tourney in NY (I think it was in NY).  Unfortunately, the rest of his Senior year he didn't preform as well.

Nonetheless, different situation.

4everwarriors

Ah, there's a bigger story here. I get the impression that it's Buzz' way or the highway. Not saying that it shouldn't be that way, but this is a terrible blow for the program. At present, this year's team simply can't afford any more player losses. And, contrary to some opinions, Maymon was a big time talent. However, the ramifications of this transfer, and I don't expect for a second, that this is academically related in any manner, are staggering. Don't expect Vander to ever wear the MU uniform and relationships with WI high school coaches will be at a disconnect. Obvious to me that Jeronne leaving is a result of displeasure with his role. What changed in a month since being the lead contact to Blue. This is a horrific setback for Buzz at this point in his MU career and he may not recover from it.
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MUBurrow

QuoteActually - Roseboro was signed by Buzz - just after he "blew up" in a Tourney in NY (I think it was in NY).  Unfortunately, the rest of his Senior year he didn't preform as well

Thats right, I knew he signed during Buzz's tenure, but I wasn't sure if the Roseboro-MU relationship was something Buzz walked into or not.  Either way, that was clearly a hurried signing after a turnover filled and thus shorter-than-most recruiting cycle.

MU1984

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2009, 10:21:16 PM
Ah, there's a bigger story here. I get the impression that it's Buzz' way or the highway. Not saying that it shouldn't be that way, but this is a terrible blow for the program. At present, this year's team simply can't afford any more player losses. And, contrary to some opinions, Maymon was a big time talent. However, the ramifications of this transfer, and I don't expect for a second, that this is academically related in any manner, are staggering. Don't expect Vander to ever wear the MU uniform and relationships with WI high school coaches will be at a disconnect. Obvious to me that Jeronne leaving is a result of displeasure with his role. What changed in a month since being the lead contact to Blue. This is a horrific setback for Buzz at this point in his MU career and he may not recover from it.

and with that, i am going to bed.

Pakuni

Quote from: Warrior of Law on December 14, 2009, 10:05:31 PM
If Maymon's old man even has access to talk to the coach (other than greetings outside the locker room) that's a real problem.  I wouldn't be surprised if Buzz is pretty relieved to be done with the nonsense.

Given that Buzz gave out his cell phone number to a bunch of non-athlete's parents a couple months back, I suspect the parents of his players would have reasonable access to him.
And there's nothing wrong with that.

TomW1365

This is from a friend...
Allegedly: "Tim Maymon recently (The week before the Wisconsin game) had a heated conversation with Buzz about J-May's role on the team. Reportedly the Maymon camp was extremly upset with his offensive role. Buzz basically guranteed the Maymons during the recruitment that J-May would be a featured option in the offense and that he would be a ... See Morestarter from day one, NOT coming off the bench. Buzz also ensured that J-May would be playing the 3/4 and that his role on the team would be more offensive oriented and would not be stuck only guarding the bigs.
The conversation got heated to the point where expletives were thrown into the conversation and the Maymons threatened that if J-May's role did not change soon they would not hesitate pulling him from school to look at other options where he would be a "featured option". Tim Maymon also threatened that they would take Vander with them.
They mentioned some school out in Virginia and somewhere in the south but I am not exactly sure which those are at this point."

Hopefully this isn't true... It's nuts if they expected to be a primary offensive options 10 games into his freshman season. 

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on December 14, 2009, 10:00:17 PM
I don't necessarily think you're too off track here but the people are saying let's wait until the Tennessee story becomes official, even if you know it to be true, and then your line of thinking is confirmed.

Also, Maymon was promised the 2 spot by Buzz? I assumed it was the 3 but if he was promised the 2 I now have to wonder what the frack Buzz was trying to pull on that.

Roseboro, Acker, and Maymon. Three very interesting player developments spotlighting Buzz.

Maymon promised the 2 spot? Yea right. NOBODY could POSSIBLY really believe that.

martyconlonontherun

Quote from: TomW1365 on December 14, 2009, 10:28:14 PM
This is from a friend...
Allegedly: "Tim Maymon recently (The week before the Wisconsin game) had a heated conversation with Buzz about J-May's role on the team. Reportedly the Maymon camp was extremly upset with his offensive role. Buzz basically guranteed the Maymons during the recruitment that J-May would be a featured option in the offense and that he would be a ... See Morestarter from day one, NOT coming off the bench. Buzz also ensured that J-May would be playing the 3/4 and that his role on the team would be more offensive oriented and would not be stuck only guarding the bigs.
The conversation got heated to the point where expletives were thrown into the conversation and the Maymons threatened that if J-May's role did not change soon they would not hesitate pulling him from school to look at other options where he would be a "featured option". Tim Maymon also threatened that they would take Vander with them.
They mentioned some school out in Virginia and somewhere in the south but I am not exactly sure which those are at this point."



Hopefully this isn't true... It's nuts if they expected to be a primary offensive options 10 games into his freshman season.  
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Golden Avalanche

Quote from: TomW1365 on December 14, 2009, 10:28:14 PM
This is from a friend...
Allegedly: "Tim Maymon recently (The week before the Wisconsin game) had a heated conversation with Buzz about J-May's role on the team. Reportedly the Maymon camp was extremly upset with his offensive role. Buzz basically guranteed the Maymons during the recruitment that J-May would be a featured option in the offense and that he would be a ... See Morestarter from day one, NOT coming off the bench. Buzz also ensured that J-May would be playing the 3/4 and that his role on the team would be more offensive oriented and would not be stuck only guarding the bigs.
The conversation got heated to the point where expletives were thrown into the conversation and the Maymons threatened that if J-May's role did not change soon they would not hesitate pulling him from school to look at other options where he would be a "featured option". Tim Maymon also threatened that they would take Vander with them.
They mentioned some school out in Virginia and somewhere in the south but I am not exactly sure which those are at this point."

Hopefully this isn't true... It's nuts if they expected to be a primary offensive options 10 games into his freshman season. 

It may be nuts to us but it wasn't to the young man and his father. Again, plenty of people in Madison explained this was a possible outcome as expectations may have been higher from within.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2009, 10:21:16 PM
Ah, there's a bigger story here. I get the impression that it's Buzz' way or the highway. Not saying that it shouldn't be that way, but this is a terrible blow for the program. At present, this year's team simply can't afford any more player losses. And, contrary to some opinions, Maymon was a big time talent. However, the ramifications of this transfer, and I don't expect for a second, that this is academically related in any manner, are staggering. Don't expect Vander to ever wear the MU uniform and relationships with WI high school coaches will be at a disconnect. Obvious to me that Jeronne leaving is a result of displeasure with his role. What changed in a month since being the lead contact to Blue. This is a horrific setback for Buzz at this point in his MU career and he may not recover from it.

Wasn't this the issue with Crean at the end -- namely, all the coaches in Wisconsin couldn't stand him.

Are you telling me that only 18 months into a tenure in which he would be here as long as Marquette would have him, Buzz has already pissed off a majority of the coaches in Wisconsin largely due to taking on a risk and failing?

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