Maymon Leaves Team!

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Chico, Do you think anything other than his own selfish interests played into this situation? Is there any concern or regard for his team, his teammates, his coach, his school, the MU community, the Madison Memorial community, etc??? That is the essence of this whole matter - a selfish, self-centered pair of people who only think about themselves.

I know you weren't directing the question at me, but I'll take a stab at it:

Does Maymon have a responsibility to the team? Absolutely. By quitting, he is letting them down. No doubt in my mind.

But, at the end of the day, Jeronne has to do what is right for himself, and if he is truly unhappy at MU, he needs to make a change.

I'm not saying I agree with his decision (I think he could stick it out and end up being a very good player and hopefully a happy guy), but I don't think it's reasonable to expect a kid to suffer through 4 years of college basketball (if he's unhappy) just to satisfy the fan base or the head coach or his high school.

[warthog-driver]

I know you weren't directing the question at me, but I'll take a stab at it:

Does Maymon have a responsibility to the team? Absolutely. By quitting, he is letting them down. No doubt in my mind.

But, at the end of the day, Jeronne has to do what is right for himself, and if he is truly unhappy at MU, he needs to make a change.

I'm not saying I agree with his decision (I think he could stick it out and end up being a very good player and hopefully a happy guy), but I don't think it's reasonable to expect a kid to suffer through 4 years of college basketball (if he's unhappy) just to satisfy the fan base or the head coach or his high school.

Alum

My beef is not that he is quitting. For example, the kid who left Duke and transferred to Memphis because his mother was very ill is a noble thing. But to leave on short notice, mid stream because your own selfish interests aren't being met is too much for me to accept. I would be more gracious, somehow, if he at least waited until after this season. In my world, to leave the battlefield in the heat of combat is desertion. You may want to but you do not because you never, ever leave your buddies behind and in the lurch. My beef with Maymon is the reason he is ditching his teammates in the middle of the season. It's all about him. I really doubt he gave any consideration to his team in any of this. Hopefully Maymon will realize the importance of comradeship because life is a lot easier when you are part of a team and you have all that top cover. Clearly that is something he has not yet learned.

[bilsu]

I do not have a problem with him transferring mid-year. Assuming he has made his mind up, there is no reason for him to stay the second semester. Most coaches knowing that a player is going to transfer is going to burry him on the end of the bench. He does not lose anytime as he will have three and 1/2 years to play at his new school.

[warthog-driver]

I do not have a problem with him transferring mid-year. Assuming he has made his mind up, there is no reason for him to stay the second semester. Most coaches knowing that a player is going to transfer is going to burry him on the end of the bench. He does not lose anytime as he will have three and 1/2 years to play at his new school.

It's not the leaving or even the timing of the leaving, really. It is the reason for which he is leaving that is disgusting.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Hog,

Once again, you're all over the map.

In a previous post, you said it's not that he's quitting, it's the timing.

Alum
But to leave on short notice, mid stream because your own selfish interests aren't being met is too much for me to accept. I would be more gracious, somehow, if he at least waited until after this season. In my world, to leave the battlefield in the heat of combat is desertion. You may want to but you do not because you never, ever leave your buddies behind and in the lurch. My beef with Maymon is the reason he is ditching his teammates in the middle of the season.

And now you claim that it's not the timing, it's really just the fact that he's quitting.

It's not the leaving or even the timing of the leaving, really. It is the reason for which he is leaving that is disgusting.

Which is it? These posts are only minutes apart.

I completely understand your analogy about the military and dissertation (I have several family members in the Marines), but you are comparing life and death to college basketball. It doesn't really work.

I realize that some leadership principles are the same, and I know we even throw around terms like "boot camp" or "battle" and "war".

But, at the end of the day, these are just amateur athletes who aren't the most mature individuals, due to their age and their inexperience.

If Maymon thinks he made a mistake coming to MU, then he needs to move on. Certainly I'm frustrated by the timing, and it doesn't make him look like the most dedicated individual, but he needs to do what he thinks will ultimately make him happy.

Again, this is college sports, not the military.

"I didn't watch my buddies die face down in the mud so Jerrone Maymon could quit whenever he feels like it." - Walter Sobchak

[akmarq]

Alum
In my world, to leave the battlefield in the heat of combat is desertion. You may want to but you do not because you never, ever leave your buddies behind and in the lurch. My beef with Maymon is the reason he is ditching his teammates in the middle of the season.

Ah, the old sports is a battlefield analogy.  How time tested...how untrue.

THough I do respect your opinion regarding his timing...I am unwilling to assume he's "ditching" the team until I hear his official reasons.  And basketball isn't war...it's a game.

[GOO]

The timing is odd, in that it is on the first day that finals begin.  The height of stress on a college campus.  I would think that this stress adds to the timing. Normally, you would expect this over Christmas when the players go home for a couple of days or after exam week.  I hope for his sake he takes his tests and gets some credits. If not, then maybe the pressure was too much.... I don't know, but if he didn't take his tests, it will tell me something.  Here is hoping that he lands on his feet here or somewhere else. 

[warthog-driver]

Hog,

Once again, you're all over the map.

In a previous post, you said it's not that he's quitting, it's the timing.

And now you claim that it's not the timing, it's really just the fact that he's quitting.

Which is it? These posts are only minutes apart.

I completely understand your analogy about the military and dissertation (I have several family members in the Marines), but you are comparing life and death to college basketball. It doesn't really work.

I realize that some leadership principles are the same, and I know we even throw around terms like "boot camp" or "battle" and "war".

But, at the end of the day, these are just amateur athletes who aren't the most mature individuals, due to their age and their inexperience.

If Maymon thinks he made a mistake coming to MU, then he needs to move on. Certainly I'm frustrated by the timing, and it doesn't make him look like the most dedicated individual, but he needs to do what he thinks will ultimately make him happy.

Again, this is college sports, not the military.

"I didn't watch my buddies die face down in the mud so Jerrone Maymon could quit whenever he feels like it." - Walter Sobchak

See my post above yours. My point has always been the reason for his quitting rather than the fact of quitting. I don't like that he's quitting mid stream but that is secondary to the reason for his quitting. As for the edit on my post, I had to get up and get the door - the Fed Ex guy was there. I hit send before proofing my copy. Always, always pre-flight your gear!