Maymon Leaves Team!

[AlumKCof93]

When this news broke, I heard a similar story.  If its true, then Mr. Maymon is not doing his son any favors and Buzz isn't doing his program any favors by taking such a risk in bringing Maymon here.  The instability of the program is a genuine concern.  

[rocky_warrior]

This explains why MUScoop had some problems...Google search for Jeronne Maymon is "volcanic" right now.

#12 search in the country over the past couple hours...

http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends?sa=X&oi=prbx_hot_trends&ct=title&q=jeronne+maymon

[KipsBayEagle]

I will say this, if there was some anger about him not being a major offensive option, they need to look at the tape and realize that our players create their own shots, I.e. butler and lazar

[MUWeb7]

Let's lay off all this speculation that the kid couldn't hack it in the classroom or this is a grade related issue.  Remember this is the stuff that we gave UW fans grief for when they questioned Vander's academic abilities.

We're all disappointed he's leaving but the best thing for the program and all of us is to wish him luck wherever he lands.

+1

The claims about his academics...not very classy people...way to throw him under the bus.

I wish him luck elsewhere, but also wish he would have given it time...next year we will have Otule, Mbao and maybe someone else for the 5. He would have had a chance at the 3 or 4 during his time here...

[MUfan12]

Ah, there's a bigger story here. I get the impression that it's Buzz' way or the highway. Not saying that it shouldn't be that way, but this is a terrible blow for the program. At present, this year's team simply can't afford any more player losses. And, contrary to some opinions, Maymon was a big time talent. However, the ramifications of this transfer, and I don't expect for a second, that this is academically related in any manner, are staggering. Don't expect Vander to ever wear the MU uniform and relationships with WI high school coaches will be at a disconnect. Obvious to me that Jeronne leaving is a result of displeasure with his role. What changed in a month since being the lead contact to Blue. This is a horrific setback for Buzz at this point in his MU career and he may not recover from it.

Whoa whoa whoa... let's step back a bit.

These coaches already know the "Tim" factor. Based on what has been said about him in the past, this isn't altogether surprising.

Relationships with HS coaches are already at a disconnect, simply because it's MU. Don't discount the anti-Milwaukee, anti-Private school bias that exists throughout the state. Not a ton that Buzz, or anyone, can do about that. There's simply not enough top talent in state every year to worry about that.

Vander's mother already told Mark Miller (someone they trust a lot) that he would be coming to MU. I've also heard Vander has told people the same.

Yes, it hurts this season. Might hurt beyond this season. Might end up being a positive depending on any flights in from Eugene...

[MUSF]

I will be shocked if Vander Blue goes anywhere but MU.

The UW debacle was bad enough but pulling the same stunt with your second team in 12 months would be a lot of negative attention he doesn't need.  His poor family would have no safe haven in Wisconsin and the pressure on him to perform at whatever school he ends up with would be immense.  As for following Maymon, I don't buy it.  These kids might be best friends but a top bball recruit is a buisness man by the age of 16.  He is not going to let some emotional attachment to a kid decide his future.  Ain't gonna happen.

As for the Maymon speculation, it smells a lot like D. Mason.  I really hope they get it sorted out and the kid doesn't end up ruined on the massive bball scrap heap.

[chapman]

Considering the number of prospective recruits we've had that ended up committing to UT, I hope that's not what he has in mind.  Pearl will have no problem recruiting over him if he hasn't already done it.  You've got to wonder what he's thinking and also how bad it must be...his development has been slower than most of us thought, but the already thin roster would guarantee him 20+ minutes a night and he'd be getting as much time as he could earn at the 4 over the next three years with Otule or Mbao alongside him and enough talent in the backcourt that he would get plenty of touches down low.  So much to speculate that it's just pointless...though if his role was the major driver in the decision it's strange how much Buzz has been raving about his unselfishness...if he was unhappy with his role I hope he, and not his father, discussed this with Buzz instead of playing the quiet and unselfish card until he had enough of the situation he was in.

As far as EWill, he's got to play now.  Unless Buzz wants to play Fulce for 30 minutes he has no choice.  But let's see the classic Buzz bounce-back to land some stud recruit...plenty of playing time for anyone 6'6" or more.

[ChicosBailBonds]

He will transfer to Tennessee and play more of the 2 and 3(which Buzz promised him in the first place).  You heard it here first!

Wouldn't surprise me, especially with Pearl's history of tampering with players from other schools.  One doesn't need to go back far to see that.

I also understand that there was a post here that said I was giddy about this news from Mr. Hayward.  I can't find the post, maybe it was deleted.  Quite the contrary, I'm very disappointed by the news.  Am I shocked?  Absolutely not.

Mviale...nero?  First it was Napoleon now it's Nero.  Well at least I'm getting taller in your eyes.   


No joy in this, but I did chuckle when I read the news.  Not a chuckle as in a laugh of joy, but a chuckle in "doesn't surprise me one @#$#@$ bit".  There were more than a few of us that asked why Bo Ryan AND Tom Crean ignored this kid.  And for that, we were called haters.  Sometimes, you have to take the blue and gold glasses off and look at reality of why.  There were red flags all over the place, and any time someone brought them up, they were shot down as haters of the program or TC lovers.   

It was merely asking simple questions, looks like today we got a few answers.  Shame.  Hope it doesn't hurt the program long term or Buzz because we will have him as our coach for quite awhile.  Best of luck to Tim and J. Maymon....more luck to Buzz that he can start landing some guys without so many red flags...just a thought (yeah, that makes me a hater I guess)

[Big Papi]

Considering the number of prospective recruits we've had that ended up committing to UT, I hope that's not what he has in mind.  Pearl will have no problem recruiting over him if he hasn't already done it.  You've got to wonder what he's thinking and also how bad it must be...his development has been slower than most of us thought, but the already thin roster would guarantee him 20+ minutes a night and he'd be getting as much time as he could earn at the 4 over the next three years with Otule or Mbao alongside him and enough talent in the backcourt that he would get plenty of touches down low.  So much to speculate that it's just pointless...though if his role was the major driver in the decision it's strange how much Buzz has been raving about his unselfishness...if he was unhappy with his role I hope he, and not his father, discussed this with Buzz instead of playing the quiet and unselfish card until he had enough of the situation he was in.

As far as EWill, he's got to play now.  Unless Buzz wants to play Fulce for 30 minutes he has no choice.  But let's see the classic Buzz bounce-back to land some stud recruit...plenty of playing time for anyone 6'6" or more.

Maybe there was another reason why Buzz was raving about Maymon the last week or so.

[ChicosBailBonds]

It may be nuts to us but it wasn't to the young man and his father. Again, plenty of people in Madison explained this was a possible outcome as expectations may have been higher from within.

Plenty of people on this very board said the same thing and got crap canned for doing so. 

[SCdem@MU]

What are the chances that Todd Rosiak actually investigates this and publishes what actually happened?

Any other big sports city in America would be all over this but for some reason I think the actual story will only come out from those "in the know" like so many other things in the past.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Classy.

Please explain to me what was not classy about it?  Buzz will fix this and I simply used a literary style of ........ to indicate we don't know what will happen with Vander Blue.  That's all.  Nothing un-classy about it. 

[Doctor V]

This is extremely crushing in many aspects. Here I was a few days ago saying to friends how wrong badger fans were about Mr Maymon and his antics. What a clown that guy is, jumping up and down all game behind buzz.

Buzz needs to do a better job of making his players happy. He brought the kid here, knowing the issues with his dad and all that nonsense. From that point forward anything that happens that causes the kid to leave is partially the head coaches fault. Communication is the most important aspect here

I see the kids perspective- he feels his only NBA hopes, which likely match up with his main hopes for life and a good future, are at the 2,3 positions. He does not wanna bang down low because he's probably seen guys with immense talent coming out of hs play outta position for 4 years and be hurt by this. Alando Tucker at UW is a great example- the kid had an amazing college career, but was completely outta position and therefore was likely hurt in the development of his skill set. That said, Id tell Mr Maymon to take a solid look at Mr Matthews, who banged down low for 4 yrs, became a solid all around player, and was finally given the opportunity to showcase his offensive skills and is thriving in the association

Talent like that cannot be leaving MU if the program is to be successful

[Rockmic87]

Haha...this is starting to become a big joke...what's the next bad news????

[Ari Gold]

Do a CCAP search of Tim Maymon. He has a rap sheet mile and a half long with a coke possison with intent to deliver, obstruction, failure to show up to county, though he did serve 5+ years...  

His upcoming press conference should be epic.

[martyconlonontherun]

I see the kids perspective- he feels his only NBA hopes, which likely match up with his main hopes for life and a good future, are at the 2,3 positions. He does not wanna bang down low because he's probably seen guys with immense talent coming out of hs play outta position for 4 years and be hurt by this. Alando Tucker at UW is a great example- the kid had an amazing college career, but was completely outta position and therefore was likely hurt in the development of his skill set. That said, Id tell Mr Maymon to take a solid look at Mr Matthews, who banged down low for 4 yrs, became a solid all around player, and was finally given the opportunity to showcase his offensive skills and is thriving in the association

Talent like that cannot be leaving MU if the program is to be successful

I agree with a lot of what you say, and I think that's the problem. Maymon could be a great Blair type player and a great college player. But I just don't think he will ever have a NBA skill set. Unless, he completely transforms as a player, he will never be quick enough to guard 2/3 in the NBA and will not have the scoring ability from the distance needed to play in the NBA at the 3. He should focus on getting the most out of his collegiate career, graduate, and look at getting enough of his name out there and play in Europe.

[MrRivals150]

http://www.facebook.com/v/746167377517

seeing if this works, it's a video of Tim Maymon

rocky sez: fixed flash embedding

[chapman]

Wouldn't surprise me, especially with Pearl's history of tampering with players from other schools.  One doesn't need to go back far to see that.

I also understand that there was a post here that said I was giddy about this news from Mr. Hayward.  I can't find the post, maybe it was deleted.  Quite the contrary, I'm very disappointed by the news.  Am I shocked?  Absolutely not.

Mviale...nero?  First it was Napoleon now it's Nero.  Well at least I'm getting taller in your eyes.   


No joy in this, but I did chuckle when I read the news.  Not a chuckle as in a laugh of joy, but a chuckle in "doesn't surprise me one @#$#@$ bit".  There were more than a few of us that asked why Bo Ryan AND Tom Crean ignored this kid.  And for that, we were called haters.  Sometimes, you have to take the blue and gold glasses off and look at reality of why.  There were red flags all over the place, and any time someone brought them up, they were shot down as haters of the program or TC lovers.   

It was merely asking simple questions, looks like today we got a few answers.  Shame.  Hope it doesn't hurt the program long term or Buzz because we will have him as our coach for quite awhile.  Best of luck to Tim and J. Maymon....more luck to Buzz that he can start landing some guys without so many red flags...just a thought (yeah, that makes me a hater I guess)

+1.  I can only speak for myself, but there were many, many red flags here that I ignored or surpressed.  It sounds lame to say right now and given the PT, but I'd have been much, much more surprised if it was EWill leaving. 

[Doctor V]

I agree with a lot of what you say, and I think that's the problem. Maymon could be a great Blair type player and a great college player. But I just don't think he will ever have a NBA skill set. Unless, he completely transforms as a player, he will never be quick enough to guard 2/3 in the NBA and will not have the scoring ability from the distance needed to play in the NBA at the 3. He should focus on getting the most out of his collegiate career, graduate, and look at getting enough of his name out there and play in Europe.

Not necessarily true. These are the skills he is looking to develop in college. I think he will be quick enough to guard a 3, and dont forget how many players have developed a mid-range game and solid jump shot, even late in their careers (Wade is a good example, even though he always said himself that he thought his hands were to big to be able to shoot the 3)

[Lennys Tap]

Wouldn't surprise me, especially with Pearl's history of tampering with players from other schools.  One doesn't need to go back far to see that.

I also understand that there was a post here that said I was giddy about this news from Mr. Hayward.  I can't find the post, maybe it was deleted.  Quite the contrary, I'm very disappointed by the news.  Am I shocked?  Absolutely not.

Mviale...nero?  First it was Napoleon now it's Nero.  Well at least I'm getting taller in your eyes.  


No joy in this, but I did chuckle when I read the news.  Not a chuckle as in a laugh of joy, but a chuckle in "doesn't surprise me one @#$#@$ bit".  There were more than a few of us that asked why Bo Ryan AND Tom Crean ignored this kid.  And for that, we were called haters.  Sometimes, you have to take the blue and gold glasses off and look at reality of why.  There were red flags all over the place, and any time someone brought them up, they were shot down as haters of the program or TC lovers.  

It was merely asking simple questions, looks like today we got a few answers.  Shame.  Hope it doesn't hurt the program long term or Buzz because we will have him as our coach for quite awhile.  Best of luck to Tim and J. Maymon....more luck to Buzz that he can start landing some guys without so many red flags...just a thought (yeah, that makes me a hater I guess)

I remember when James "Manchild" Mathews came to MU. If ever there was a guy with red flags he was one (and that is being extremely kind). Funny that I don't remember your admonitions beforehand or your "doesn't surprise me one@#$#@$ bit" chuckles afterwards. Matter of fact, don't remember you ripping Crean at all. Funny.

[martyconlonontherun]

Not necessarily true. These are the skills he is looking to develop in college. I think he will be quick enough to guard a 3, and dont forget how many players have developed a mid-range game and solid jump shot, even late in their careers (Wade is a good example, even though he always said himself that he thought his hands were to big to be able to shoot the 3)

I agree it is possible through extreme dedication and some luck. But from my prospective, it's a long shot. Wade is one of the greatest exceptions, but from what little I've seen of J-May he doesn't have those skills. An incredibly small number make the NBA and I feel many on this team and recruits have a better shot than Maymon, IMO. He is a power player that would have to completely change his game, that is a little different than a player like Wade just developing his shot.

Though, I can't blame a kid for going after his dreams.

[SWARM!]

I can't help but laugh at this Chicos fellow.  Truly a sad individual.

[MU in Miami]

I can't help but laugh at this Chicos fellow.  Truly a sad individual.

+1

[Boone]

+2 (he/she should stick to what he/she knows best: Badger baiting, self promoting and name dropping).

[uncle zeffy]

Upon realizing the success of Bucks player Brandon Jennings, and the advice of his father, JM has decided to forgo the rest of his college career and will begin playing for a European League before entering his name in the 2010 draft.