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MR.HAYWARD

7:17 left Mu claws back to down 54-57.  Wisco puts up a bad 3 and a rebound goes straight up and #5 Wilson? goes up and gets it over MU's interior players and lays it in.

a close second was Mu claws back in and Hughes gets a rebound and a foul over Hornswaggle ( thanks TC) 

and in 3rd place Mu claws back in and Bohannon gets a rebound over Cubillan.  ( thanks TC)

duanewade

As Lavin said all the "empty possessions" killed us also.  Too many times we didn't even get a shot off and instead turned it over when we had a chance to cut into the lead further. 

To me one of the plays of the game came in the 1st half when Wisconsin had 3 seconds on the shot clock with a baseline inbounds and they manage to get a bunny with a second left.  Defensive break downs like that cannot happen.

VegasWarrior77

I hope Lavin is correct when he said: "Both of these teams will be in the NCAA tournament."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on December 12, 2009, 06:20:47 PM
7:17 left Mu claws back to down 54-57.  Wisco puts up a bad 3 and a rebound goes straight up and #5 Wilson? goes up and gets it over MU's interior players and lays it in.

a close second was Mu claws back in and Hughes gets a rebound and a foul over Hornswaggle ( thanks TC) 

and in 3rd place Mu claws back in and Bohannon gets a rebound over Cubillan.  ( thanks TC)

I wonder how UWGB with their 3 guard offense beat them the other day.  In fact, they played 4 guards for part of the game.  Damn TC

LOL

MR.HAYWARD

see chicos that is where your stupidity kicks in, i could care less if we play 2-3-4-5 guards.  the issue is TC's guard holdovers have mid major talent not BE talent.  In fact I would take Cotton and acouple other UW GB guards over Acker and Cubi.

W ewill be fine when buzz's boys DJO, Blue, and Junior are running the show.

muwarrior69

Actually the play of the game was when the refs went to review the play to see if Butler was fowled. After that I knew the fix was in.

madtownwarrior

even my Badger friends said "you will be a lot better when Acker and Cubillian are replaced with Blue and Cadougan"....

augoman

I thought the play of the game was late second half and Hayward misses a bunny (while being hacked), gets his own rebound and misses another bunny (while being hacked), gets his own rebound and puts it in while being hacked and no fouls called!  Now, my seats were for crap and I may be wrong on one of the fouls, but he for sure should have gone to the line.

The Lens

In year two post KO, we were a 4 seed in the NCAAs with all KO players

In year two post TC, we have Lazar, 2 midgets and a bunch of Buzz players.  If there is any doubt TC left us high and dry, a simple comparison to 1996 answers the question.

Thankfully help is on the way.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

IAmMarquette

Quote from: augoman on December 12, 2009, 10:12:21 PM
I thought the play of the game was late second half and Hayward misses a bunny (while being hacked), gets his own rebound and misses another bunny (while being hacked), gets his own rebound and puts it in while being hacked and no fouls called!  Now, my seats were for crap and I may be wrong on one of the fouls, but he for sure should have gone to the line.

There is NO QUESTION he should have gone to the line. He got absolutely mugged--twice--on that play. I still can't believe he actually scored on that possession.

mviale

Quote from: madtownwarrior on December 12, 2009, 08:40:34 PM
even my Badger friends said "you will be a lot better when Acker and Cubillian are replaced with Blue and Cadougan"....


Can we stop waiting on next year already.  These are our warriors, we could have won today despite the slow start.
You heard it here first. Davante Gardner will be a Beast this year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27259

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Lens on December 12, 2009, 10:26:30 PM
In year two post KO, we were a 4 seed in the NCAAs with all KO players

In year two post TC, we have Lazar, 2 midgets and a bunch of Buzz players.  If there is any doubt TC left us high and dry, a simple comparison to 1996 answers the question.

Thankfully help is on the way.


+1. In year two we have 1 senior, no junior and no sophmore Big East caliber players left over from the previous regime. In year three that becomes no seniors and no juniors. This was a train wreck waiting to happen. Jimmy Butler (a late signing home run - something thought to be impossible after seeing strikeout after strikeout under Crean) and back to back good recruiting classes (another no no under TC) have saved us from the abyss. Thanks Buzz.

Marquette84

Quote from: The Lens on December 12, 2009, 10:26:30 PM
In year two post KO, we were a 4 seed in the NCAAs with all KO players


Hmm.  Did you forget about Jarrod Lovette and Mike Bargen on that team? 

BTW, in year one post KO, we were an NIT team. 












The Lens

I think you're reaching SJS.  Bargen & Lovette were mce players but I think we relied on Amal, Eford, Piep, Crawford, Fai & Hutch just as much. 

Now that's what I call a well stocked cupboard. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on December 12, 2009, 07:14:09 PM
see chicos that is where your stupidity kicks in, i could care less if we play 2-3-4-5 guards.  the issue is TC's guard holdovers have mid major talent not BE talent.  In fact I would take Cotton and acouple other UW GB guards over Acker and Cubi.

W ewill be fine when buzz's boys DJO, Blue, and Junior are running the show.

Ahh, so now we finally get to the point.  You see, for months it was about size, now it's about skill.  On that, we can agree.

By the way, Tyshawn Taylor would have looked pretty good in yesterday's game as well.  But that's life my friend.  Can you imagine how much worse we would have been if Buzz didn't beg back Mo to the team? 

We are what we are (though your predictions have changed so many times in the last 2 months I can't keep track).  Why we played zone against that team is beyond me, but that was the coaches call.  Nice comeback at times, some really poor plays at other times by veteran guys, but this was our first true road game so it's not that surprising.


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Lens on December 12, 2009, 10:26:30 PM
In year two post KO, we were a 4 seed in the NCAAs with all KO players

In year two post TC, we have Lazar, 2 midgets and a bunch of Buzz players.  If there is any doubt TC left us high and dry, a simple comparison to 1996 answers the question.

Thankfully help is on the way.

Last I checked, there were a bunch of Big East players here when he left, but they didn't want to play for Buzz.  That was their choice, but I think TT, NW, TM would have done well for MU yesterday.  The said they didn't want to play for BW.  That's life, plus throw in the unfortunate injuries to our guys and it's going to be this way this year.

Hopefully by next year they get it going.

PuertoRicanNightmare

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2009, 09:53:02 AM
I think TT, NW, TM would have done well for MU yesterday.  The said they didn't want to play for BW. 

Apparently, they didn't want to play for Crean either. Well, NW did before he got run off.

MR.HAYWARD

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2009, 09:53:02 AM
Last I checked, there were a bunch of Big East players here when he left, but they didn't want to play for Buzz.  That was their choice, but I think TT, NW, TM would have done well for MU yesterday.  The said they didn't want to play for BW.  That's life, plus throw in the unfortunate injuries to our guys and it's going to be this way this year.

Hopefully by next year they get it going.

chicos i cannot disagree with you on the kids that left.  but that really has nothing to do with the fact of why is Crean offering scholarships to Acker and Cubes and chrsitopherson another one who left.

Simple yes or no question...are Acker and Cubes big east caliber players?


another simple yes or no questions... from waht you have seen since 4/8/2008.  would Buzz Williams have offered those two guys?  (acker and cubes)?

NCMUFan

I may be wrong on my observations, but some of the game changing plays of the game:

1. Review of foul on Butler.  I was like thinking.  Did Bo throw a red challenge flag?  Or did Bo tell the refs to go look at the monitor.  Looked really fishy to me.  Bo didn't like the call so, better review it.
2.  Coobey out hustling Leur for a rebound in the corner.  Coobey comes up with the ball but gets the foul call against Leur. Coobey was just staring at the ref at the foul line while Leur was shooting.
3. Maymon tears out a free rebound but the refs call a foul on Maymon.
4. I thought there was a clear bias in calls.  Worst than the Misery game last year.

My conclusion, Bo was not going to get three losses to Marquette in a row.

warthog-driver

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 13, 2009, 10:04:35 AM
Apparently, they didn't want to play for Crean either. Well, NW did before he got run off.

The Nick Williams saga epitomizes what Tom Crean is all about.

Pakuni

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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2009, 09:53:02 AM
Last I checked, there were a bunch of Big East players here when he left, but they didn't want to play for Buzz.  That was their choice, but I think TT, NW, TM would have done well for MU yesterday.  The said they didn't want to play for BW.  That's life, plus throw in the unfortunate injuries to our guys and it's going to be this way this year.

Hopefully by next year they get it going.

Oh, good God, give me a break. Taylor's decision had almost nothing to do with Buzz. Taylor wanted out from Marquette the second Kansas came calling. The coaching change just provided him with a convenient excuse to bail on his commitment.
As for Nick Williams, labeling him a Big East player may be slightly generous. Maybe a Big East bench player. I don't see him getting a whole lot of minutes on the roster right now, and even less next year with the arrivals of Blue and Jones.

Mbakwe may have helped with his size, but he was a flake whose off-court issues may have been far more trouble than he was worth. For a man who's criticized Buzz over the "type" of players he's recruited, I find it a bit ironic that you're pining for the likes of Mbakwe.

And why no mention of Scott Christopherson? Maybe it's because he's virtually vanished at Iowa State now that they've played some real competition?

79Warrior

Quote from: mviale on December 13, 2009, 12:03:45 AM
Can we stop waiting on next year already.  These are our warriors, we could have won today despite the slow start.


Could have won??? We trailed this game coast to coast. We have no answer for their size. They beat us plain and simple.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2009, 09:53:02 AM
Last I checked, there were a bunch of Big East players here when he left, but they didn't want to play for Buzz.  That was their choice, but I think TT, NW, TM would have done well for MU yesterday.  The said they didn't want to play for BW.  That's life, plus throw in the unfortunate injuries to our guys and it's going to be this way this year.

Hopefully by next year they get it going.

I can't believe you can write this stuff with a straight face. TOTALLY misrepresents the facts. I'm done with you.

warthog-driver

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2009, 09:53:02 AM
Last I checked, there were a bunch of Big East players here when he left, but they didn't want to play for Buzz.  That was their choice, but I think TT, NW, TM would have done well for MU yesterday.  The said they didn't want to play for BW.  That's life, plus throw in the unfortunate injuries to our guys and it's going to be this way this year.

Hopefully by next year they get it going.

Chico, This is BS and you know it

Skatastrophy

Quote from: warthog-driver on December 13, 2009, 12:21:11 PM
Chico, This is BS and you know it

How is that BS?  When TC left so did a number of BE caliber players that only wanted to play for TC. 

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