[Rosiak's Blog] MU, UW-Green Bay agree to three-year deal

[ToddRosiakSays]

MU, UW-Green Bay agree to three-year deal
               

Marquette University will once again play the other three Division I men's basketball programs in the state beginning next season.

UW-Green Bay has accepted a three-year deal to face MU, deputy athletic director Mike Broeker said Monday morning. The first two games will be played at the Bradley Center, and the third at the Resch Center in Green Bay.

MU has not played UW-Green Bay since 1996. The Golden Eagles are 7-2 all-time against the Phoenix, who are coached by former MU assistant Tod Kowalczyk.
               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/78686412.html
               

[MUfan12]

2 for 1's with both schools? Does that seem irresponsible to anyone else?

I had hoped they'd let the UWM series die after this contract is up.

Still have bad memories of MU at the Resch Center... yeeesh.

On the plus side, the athletic dept must be on pretty good financial footing to give up two away games to Horizon League teams.

[mu_hilltopper]

edit

The contract with UWM was a 3-buy game plus a Home and Home, 5 games total.

The infamous contract:

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2007/12/marquette-broke-contract-wuwm-21.html

[GOMU1104]

If when you say "2 for 1s with both schools" you meant UWM .. that would be wrong.

The contract with UWM was a 3-buy game plus a Home and Home, 5 games total.

The infamous contract:

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2007/12/marquette-broke-contract-wuwm-21.html

Read what Todd wrote:

The two schools currently have a five-year deal that ends in the 2011-'12 season; the new deal would pick up from there and, like the UW-Green Bay series, include two home games for MU and one for UWM.

It is a new, 2 for 1 deal, that would start after the current deal expries.

[mu_hilltopper]

Oopsies.  I just read the clip above, not the whole story.  I rarely click the link to read the whole article, now that only summaries are provided via RSS.

[Dr. Blackheart]

This is pretty savvy of Buzz...he is obviously shoring up his home recruiting base whereas TC walked away from it or gave fuel for the fire when he entered a race.  Bo is pushing 70, and his posse will be up for grabs.  Good for SOS as well.  

[Nukem2]

The real issue is scheduling.  Its just hard to get even buy games now.  MU gave season ticket holders a refund this year as the nimber games was down one from the original plan.

[Boognish_MU]

The real issue is scheduling.  Its just hard to get even buy games now.  MU gave season ticket holders a refund this year as the nimber games was down one from the original plan.

I think there was one last year too if I remember right.

[Nukem2]

I think there was one last year too if I remember right.

No so.  MU played its maximum # of games last year.  This year, MU still has one opening

[ChicosBailBonds]

This is pretty savvy of Buzz...he is obviously shoring up his home recruiting base whereas TC walked away from it or gave fuel for the fire when he entered a race.  Bo is pushing 70, and his posse will be up for grabs.  Good for SOS as well.  

Disagree on many levels.  This just makes the overall non-conference schedule less attractive.  You'll see less and less of NC State, Arizona, etc coming to town so we can play UWM, UWGB.  I wouldn't be happy if I was a season ticket holder IF it means less games of bigger teams coming in.  Unless I'm reading it wrong, I don't know how it can't have this effect.  Or, MU might be saying they don't need as many home games as in the past, but that would shock me from a revenue perspective.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Disagree on many levels.  This just makes the overall non-conference schedule less attractive.  You'll see less and less of NC State, Arizona, etc coming to town so we can play UWM, UWGB.  I wouldn't be happy if I was a season ticket holder IF it means less games of bigger teams coming in.  Unless I'm reading it wrong, I don't know how it can't have this effect.  Or, MU might be saying they don't need as many home games as in the past, but that would shock me from a revenue perspective.

We have an open game this year that MU refunded money.  UWGB fills in that slot with a guarantee.  The BC was 2/3rds full for NCST.  If Buzz gets MU to an Elite 8 level in a few years, I am sure Cottingham can find a cupcake to drop.  Our OOC RPI is of no help to us either at the end of the year at selection time or with the state/region fan base.  If we are afraid of losing to these two, then we shouldn't have to worry about UNC coming to the BC.

[MUfan12]

This is pretty savvy of Buzz...he is obviously shoring up his home recruiting base whereas TC walked away from it or gave fuel for the fire when he entered a race.  Bo is pushing 70, and his posse will be up for grabs.  Good for SOS as well.  

MU plays 18 games in Milwaukee already, why play an away game there? How does that help the recruiting base? And how many big recruits come from the GB area? Next to none.

MU will not compete with either school for recruits. And what are the odds this has any effect on a recruit? I can guarantee you'll never hear a kid say "I like the Big East competition, but I won't go there since they don't play UWGB."

If this at all limits our ability to bring in a BCS school for a home and home, it's insanity to give a 2-1 deal.

[Dr. Blackheart]

MU plays 18 games in Milwaukee already, why play an away game there? How does that help the recruiting base? And how many big recruits come from the GB area? Next to none.

MU will not compete with either school for recruits. And what are the odds this has any effect on a recruit? I can guarantee you'll never hear a kid say "I like the Big East competition, but I won't go there since they don't play UWGB."

If this at all limits our ability to bring in a BCS school for a home and home, it's insanity to give a 2-1 deal.

And you don't think the Bo Posse wasn't badmouthing us throughout the state?  Or Pearl in Milwaukee?   Buzz is trying to rebuild that.  GB area---hmm, how about Diener. 

[GGGG]

Playing UWGB or UWM doesn't help us one bit with in state recruiting.  Do you really think that Bo badmouths us because we don't play UWGB?

Oh, and Diener is from Fond du Lac, which is actually closer to Milwaukee than it is to Green Bay.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Playing UWGB or UWM doesn't help us one bit with in state recruiting.  Do you really think that Bo badmouths us because we don't play UWGB?

Oh, and Diener is from Fond du Lac, which is actually closer to Milwaukee than it is to Green Bay.

Yes, Bo's posse badmouths us for everything.  You are kidding, right?  Read the Badger board where they are calling him "Scuzzy".  Many of those posters are hs coaches.  We are not even on the radar of upstate recruits because of the coach network.  Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought UWM was after Buycks.

[MUfan12]

Yes, Bo's posse badmouths us for everything.  You are kidding, right?  Read the Badger board where they are calling him "Scuzzy".  Many of those posters are hs coaches.  We are not even on the radar of upstate recruits because of the coach network.  Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought UWM was after Buycks.

Why do we want upstate recruits? The ballplayers in this state primarily come from Madison and MKE. A few might come from the Fox Valley. Bo can keep the Anderson's, Gavinski's, et al. I'll take the Matthews, Maymon, and Blue any day.

Biases against MU/Milwaukee are NEVER going to change outstate. MU is seen as the snobby, private school in a big, mean city that has *gasp* black people in it. I know I'm painting with broad strokes here, but it's true.

[GGGG]

Yes, Bo's posse badmouths us for everything.  You are kidding, right?  Read the Badger board where they are calling him "Scuzzy".  Many of those posters are hs coaches.  We are not even on the radar of upstate recruits because of the coach network.  Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought UWM was after Buycks.

What "upstate" recruits have we missed out on because we are not playing UWGB?  And if we can't out recruit UWM for anyone, our troubles are deeper than a few people on the Badger board.  (And why do I care what they are saying over there anyway?)d

[damuts222]

  It would be nice to see MU play a team from Texas every year, like a Baylor, Texas Tech, or Texas A&M since Buzz' recruiting is strong in Texas.

  Generally over the last couple years MU's toughest games have come in the preseason tournaments, then they play Wisconsin, and then almost every other game is a cupcake.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yes, Bo's posse badmouths us for everything.  You are kidding, right?  Read the Badger board where they are calling him "Scuzzy".  Many of those posters are hs coaches.  We are not even on the radar of upstate recruits because of the coach network.  Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought UWM was after Buycks.

I guess you have to ask the question, will any of that change by playing these schools?  I say, absolutely not.  They're going to hate on Marquette no matter what, it's what they do.

Plus, all we're doing is rewarding their behavior.  There's not a chance in hell they will ever give MU the benefit of the doubt so I say F' em.  If I thought there was some good will to be generated, great, but there isn't.  It just doesn't exist so why curtail your program to reward agendas of people that hate MU anyway?

We are going down the model of St. John's and DePaul where they play all the little sisters in their neighborhood and eventually it bites them in the ass.  Even if we win them all, and we should, it just screams regionalism.

I'd much rather bring in a Pac Ten team, a ACC team, a Big Ten team, Big 12 team with these non-conference home and ways then to waste them on UWM and UWGB.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

ALRIGHT!

Time for some good 'ol schedule bitchin'.

Who are we going to blame for this?

The AD?
The head coach?
Tim Maymon?

Let's the insanity begin.

[ChicosBailBonds]

ALRIGHT!

Time for some good 'ol schedule bitchin'.

Who are we going to blame for this?

The AD?
The head coach?
Tim Maymon?

Let's the insanity begin.

Is Tom Crean on the list?

[damuts222]

Lets blame Charlie Weis

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Is Tom Crean on the list?

Nope.

That dude is long gone.

MU is MU.

Fans are fans.

People that like to bitch will always find a reason.

The schedule is low hanging fruit for those type of people.

[Blackhat]

If we sign up a 2 for 1 with UWM, doesn't even seem right typing it there should be questions asked of Cottingham.


Meaning he should outline exactly how MU is benefiting(hardcore evidence, not bullsh.t good for the state stuff.)  Because the beneficial reasons miss me in going to the Crap every third year. 

[bma725]

Yes, Bo's posse badmouths us for everything.  You are kidding, right?  Read the Badger board where they are calling him "Scuzzy".  Many of those posters are hs coaches.  We are not even on the radar of upstate recruits because of the coach network.  Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought UWM was after Buycks.

UWM wished they could get in on Buycks, but had no shot.  He was looking at high majors.