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ecompt

Speaking of getting a clue, Mike Deane's Wagner club fell to 0-6 on Saturday.

MUPig

Tough day.  Losing to to mid to lower tier ACC teams and blowing big leads in both games.  It was like watching 2 different teams today - super fired intensity in the first half and lethargic uninspired effort in the 2nd half.  It will be an interesting year

77ncaachamps

Quote from: ecompt on December 05, 2009, 08:47:07 PM
Speaking of getting a clue, Mike Deane's Wagner club fell to 0-6 on Saturday.

Former MU related coaches...

KO's USC team has lost 3 straight, currently 2-4. Circle Dec. 31: KO v. former team Zona

IIII's Hoosier team is 3-4. Circle Dec. 12: IU v. UK

Darrin Horn's Gamec0ck team is 6-1 having beaten a Big East team, USF. Circle Jan. 23: @ Florida

UWM's Rob Jeter's squad is 6-3 having lost twice at home. Circle Dec. 8: @ MU...nuff said

Robert Morris's club coached by Mike Rice is 3-4, but 2-0 in the Colonial, having most recently defeated Deane's Wagner club. That should've been circled but instead circle Dec. 12 v. Duquesne and watch the stat line for the Dukes' Saunders instead.

UWGB's Tod Kowalczyk has his team smoking at 8-2. Circle Dec. 9: They get to rough up the Rodents before we do.

Dale Layer's Liberty club is struggling with a 4-6 record. Circle Jan. 7 v Presbyterian. Then compare how they did with MU's result from Dec. 27.

The Scarlet Knights are doing respectably well under Fred Hill, with a 4-2 record. Circle Dec. 28 v UNC. What a game that'll be for Rutgers.

SS Marquette

dbwarriors

Quote from: GOMU1104 on December 05, 2009, 04:44:23 PM
Today, Roy Williams watched Kentucky go on a 31-8 run in the 1st half...and he didnt call a timeout...is he wrong?

Yes, he is wrong.

NumenFlumenque

Quote from: GOMU1104 on December 05, 2009, 04:44:23 PM
Today, Roy Williams watched Kentucky go on a 31-8 run in the 1st half...and he didnt call a timeout...is he wrong?

I'd say he's wrong. What good does it do for your team to endure a run like that? I don't see a positive lesson to be learned from that.

UNC came back in that game because they had a bigger rotation than us and better overall players than us.

muphan

Fluce needs to leave our team. He is a waste of space. Its hard running a 7 man rotation with him in it esp with j may out on a dady to day hip pointer.

avid1010

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Quote from: NumenFlumenque on December 06, 2009, 01:24:34 PM
I'd say he's wrong. What good does it do for your team to endure a run like that? I don't see a positive lesson to be learned from that.

UNC came back in that game because they had a bigger rotation than us and better overall players than us.

If you honestly believe that you know more than Roy Williams about when to use timeouts in basketball, especially in that specific instance with that specific team you are a complete idiot.

I love how it's a given among most on this thread that calling a timeout is all you need to do to stop a run.

avid1010

Quote from: muphan on December 06, 2009, 08:38:24 PM
Fluce needs to leave our team. He is a waste of space. Its hard running a 7 man rotation with him in it esp with j may out on a dady to day hip pointer.

Correct, we have too many athletic players over 6' 6" on this team already.

NumenFlumenque

Quote from: avid1010 on December 06, 2009, 09:22:37 PM
If you honestly believe that you know more than Roy Williams about when to use timeouts in basketball, especially in that specific instance with that specific team you are a complete idiot.

I love how it's a given among most on this thread that calling a timeout is all you need to do to stop a run.

I never said calling a timeout would stop a run. But it's a hell of a lot better to try and stop the other team's momentum than suffer through a huge run while seeing your team make no adjustments to actually stop the run. I know I sure felt great seeing our team make terrible passes and take bad shots during the first six minutes of the second half.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: avid1010 on December 06, 2009, 09:22:37 PM
If you honestly believe that you know more than Roy Williams about when to use timeouts in basketball, especially in that specific instance with that specific team you are a complete idiot.

I love how it's a given among most on this thread that calling a timeout is all you need to do to stop a run.

Different coaches do it different ways. Mike Deane would call 3 timeouts in the first 10 minutes of a game if he had to.  Buzz doesn't like to use them much....neither did John Wooden....but Wooden had better players that were more veteran than Buzz does.   

Timeouts don't guarantee anything, never have, but many coaches certainly feel the need to use them when another team is on a run to slow them down, get his squad on the same page, etc.  It's his call....I just wish Mr. Williams would play more.  Oh, and Mbao....cuz I've been told that if he just adds 25lbs he is going to be a dominant force in the Big East. 

avid1010

Quote from: NumenFlumenque on December 06, 2009, 09:35:50 PM
I never said calling a timeout would stop a run. But it's a hell of a lot better to try and stop the other team's momentum than suffer through a huge run while seeing your team make no adjustments to actually stop the run. I know I sure felt great seeing our team make terrible passes and take bad shots during the first six minutes of the second half.

Or you could place the focus on creating teams that understand how to handle the runs that take place so often in college basketball, and have a team that can handle those situations and then have the advantage of having timeouts at the end of the game when we may need them for clock management reasons or for giving a breather to a 7 man rotation. 

There's obviously two sides to the story...I'd just tend to go with Roy Williams.  I guess a start would be for someone to define what the feel constitutes a run. 

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: avid1010 on December 07, 2009, 10:05:02 AM
Or you could place the focus on creating teams that understand how to handle the runs that take place so often in college basketball, and have a team that can handle those situations and then have the advantage of having timeouts at the end of the game when we may need them for clock management reasons or for giving a breather to a 7 man rotation. 

There's obviously two sides to the story...I'd just tend to go with Roy Williams.  I guess a start would be for someone to define what the feel constitutes a run. 

If you've watched college ball for more then a couple years, you know what a run "feels" like. MU didn't play well in the first half. They got the ball to Odom with 13 seconds left and he creates an opening and hits an NBA 3-pointer to give Marquette an 11 point halftime lead and all the momentum in the world.

Knowing that, any coach worth their salt would be sure to let the kids know that NC State will come out hot and try to get it all back before the first media timeout. Make sure they know to weather that storm for the first few minutes -- tighten the ball handling, continue passing through the shot clock, be sure to use your ass when you rebound, etc. -- and use the home court to slowly kill their will to come back.

In this situation, when the 11 point lead was cut in half is when the sign should have come from Buzz. Instead, he sat on it for over three or four minutes of game time until it was 38-36 and at that point the team already looked lazy and out of it and it didn't take much brain power to know NC State was in the ascendancy. He failed.

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