NFC North Pissing Match

[Hards Alumni]

http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/02/nfl-pro-football-business-sportsmoney-football-values-09-values_slide_32.html

*whistles innocently*

[Chili]

What other brilliance?  Minnesota Hip-Hop?  One of the greatest oxymorons I've ever heard.  Perhaps you could drop some of that "fresh sh*t" for us sometime here at MUScoop.

I hate to do this but I need to defend JayBee. Minneapolis has a really good hip hop scene driven heavily by artists on Rhymesayers Entertainment  . OK, you can return to Viqueen bashing.

[Hards Alumni]

Yeah, lots of mainstream rappers coming out of THE MSP! 

[NavinRJohnson]

Yeah, lots of mainstream rappers coming out of THE MSP! 

Jay Bee...Duh!

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Yeah, lots of mainstream rappers coming out of THE MSP! 

Mainstream doesn't = good.

Good = good.

Especially in music.

[Chili]

Yeah, lots of mainstream rappers coming out of THE MSP! 

You should check out Atmosphere or Brother Ali - bother tour internationally, and from the beer thread you're in Madison, play there a few times a year.

[Moonboots]

I hate to do this but I need to defend JayBee. Minneapolis has a really good hip hop scene driven heavily by artists on Rhymesayers Entertainment  . OK, you can return to Viqueen bashing.

That's fine.  I'm not even knocking that it might be a fine brand of hip-hop.  It's just entertaining to me that the english nazi manages to butcher the language with his crude and vulgar slang over there.  And a white boy from "20 minutes south of Minneapolis" as it said in one post over there likely isn't the top dog for mixtapes on the Minnesota hip-hop scene.

[NavinRJohnson]

And a white boy from "20 minutes south of Minneapolis" as it said in one post over there likely isn't the top dog for mixtapes on the Minnesota hip-hop scene.

Word. Edina is a well known hotbed for up and coming hip-hop acts!

[IAmMarquette]

Mainstream doesn't = good.

Good = good.

Especially in music.

+1M

[Hards Alumni]

I won't disagree (as most of the music I listen to is not exactly mainstream), but you are missing the point.

How else would one compare the hip hop scene from one place to another?

[Jay Bee]

I won't disagree (as most of the music I listen to is not exactly mainstream), but you are missing the point.

How else would one compare the hip hop scene from one place to another?

  Hards - not in that manner.  You'd need a certain level of knowledge.  I'll explain to you sometime (over a 40oz, son)

[Hards Alumni]

kiddo, I understand hip hop (some of my friends from college are actually aspiring rappers... the DDE guys... if you've heard of them).

And I have probably drank more 40's in college than you have in your life.

40's at 4 every friday.

[muwarrior87]

Word. Edina is a well known hotbed for up and coming hip-hop acts!

cake eater.

[MU B2002]

When did this thread become who's more street?

[LON]

When did this thread become who's more street?

My dad can beat up your dad.

/suburbs'd

[MU B2002]

My dad can beat up your dad.

/suburbs'd

Probably because my dad would never hit his own son.

[Skatastrophy]

Probably because my dad would never hit his own son.

So... you're LancesOtherNut's uncle?   

[MU B2002]

Not quite.


But on an NFC North issue... I see Hawk's playing time is getting cut back.  Is this due to the 3-4(or 4-3 can't remember their new scheme), or is it a skill issue?

[LON]

Not quite.


But on an NFC North issue... I see Hawk's playing time is getting cut back.  Is this due to the 3-4(or 4-3 can't remember their new scheme), or is it a skill issue?

Because he's ANOTHER overrated LB from Ohio State.

[Jay Bee]

a) I haven't done 'mixtapes'.  I spent years on air as a host doing live mixshows (primarily indie/unsigned and oldschool hiphop) in Milwaukee and Minneapolis, and have several releases of my own groups (with me rhyming - the lyrics are as filthy and stupid as you would imagine).  As some of you weirdos have probably figured out, old clips from my show and a tons of mp3's are available.

b)  I was born and raised in Minneapolis and live in the city today.  Never have lived in Edina or anywhere '20 mins south of the city', although I frequent the race track which is roughly 20 mins to the south.  But, who cares?  Even 22nd and Wells makes the grimiest parts of Minneapolis look like a friendly playground.

c) The first time Rhymesayers came to Milwaukee it was the entire crew - October 1998.  I threw the show at a little bar called the Y-Not II off Van Buren.  Things have certainly changed (i.e. RSE has built their brand up big time).

I can't wait to have muscoop.com get togethers, guyz!  Hards can show me how much he can drink.  Rock on, guy!

I wonder if Avenue Liquors is still around?  You could write your name and a birthdate on a piece of looseleaf and have it accepted as a valid ID.

AJ Hawk.. a #5 pick?  Hahaha... Chad Greenway is the man.

[NavinRJohnson]

Not quite.


But on an NFC North issue... I see Hawk's playing time is getting cut back.  Is this due to the 3-4(or 4-3 can't remember their new scheme), or is it a skill issue?

At this point seems to just be a function of Barnett and Matthews (who I believe is going to be a very good LB - not a superstar necessarily, but solid, pro bowl caliber like his old man) returning. Seeing those two on the field is about the only thing to watch tonight. Hawk probably will be on the sideline on passing downs though. He is probably their 4th best LB though.

[GOMU1104]

AJ Hawk.. a #5 pick?  Hahaha... Chad Greenway is the man.

Really?

Troy Williamson, #7

Aaron Rodgers, #24

Wish you could have that one back, huh?

[Moonboots]

Really?

Troy Williamson, #7

Aaron Rodgers, #24

Wish you could have that one back, huh?

You didn't even include Erasmus James.


Oh, and while Hawk is a certifiable "bust" at number five, he's far from a bad player.  The coaches say he grades out in the top 3 linebackers in terms of being assignment sure.  He just never developed into a playmaker.  Definitely not a bust to a Troy Williamson or Dimitrius Underwood level.

[MU B2002]

Really?

Troy Williamson, #7

Aaron Rodgers, #24

Wish you could have that one back, huh?

Are you implying MIN should have taken Rodgers?  Why spend a 1st round pick on a QB when your current QB is still young and coming off an unbelievable season.  Yes, Pepper got hurt in 2005, but hindsight is 20-20.  Williamson as a speed guy was supposed to be a good compliment to Moss.  I would have rather hand the human light switch at 13(ignoring the steriod and major knee injury stuff  )  if we are redoing the draft.

[NavinRJohnson]

Oh, and while Hawk is a certifiable "bust" at number five, he's far from a bad player.  The coaches say he grades out in the top 3 linebackers in terms of being assignment sure.  He just never developed into a playmaker. 

Not even sure I can call him a bust for number 5. He was the Defensive ROY his first year, second in tackles in his second year on a very solid defense, and spent much of last year out of position on an injury ravaged defense. we'll see what he does this year, but he has been much more good than bad.