Brett Roseboro no longer attending Marquette?

[HoopDreams]

This is a great move by buzz and co. Clearly saw the lack of potential and said see ya. He would look great in the big ten

[tower912]

IWB's only cited source is the original twitter.   So we still have a huge ruckus based on a third party tweet.     I have nothing but respect for IWB and his sources, and his saying he has confirmed it moves the story forward, but something offical, please.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I agree with you, but when I really think about it, MU could have 12 home grown white dudes from small Wisconsin high schools, and some UW fans would still find something to be critical about with MU.

Some people don't like MU, and no matter what MU does, they will find an angle to critique.

Hopefully, all of the guys MU has recruited will graduate and it will be great. However, if that happens, some fans will automatically accuse MU of "helping" their athletes through school.

It's a never ending cycle with politics and sports rivalries.

Yup, that's the key.  If the kids graduate, stay off the blotter, no NCAA rules, win...then basically people won't have much to say.  If they don't, then MU probably doesn't get as much benefit of the doubt because the media and the fans will say that MU made it's bed by going after too many folks that didn't fit a certain mold.  That's the risk, time will tell.

And don't get me wrong, Fran's one of the biggest asswipes on the planet.  Some of the garbage on Buckyville and UWMFReak that he writes you would think he's trying to room with his son in college it's so naive.  The UW-Madison football and hockey teams have had so many degenerates over the years that he is the last one that should talk, but I know that there are others that are much less partisan than him that are asking similar types of questions.

[Lennys Tap]

Uhm, I was linking to the fact that they were confirming it.  I was banned on Dodds site more than 2 years ago, IP blocked, etc, etc, so I can't get on the MU page.  So I posted the link from the UW page.  Though in reading some of their comments, I can't help but think that there are more than a few people in the state that feel this way about MU now.  But that's the direction we've chosen to go, for better or worse, time will tell.

Uhm, you may haved been banned on the Dodds site two years ago but you've been back for some time. Why are you making this stuff up? Is it because it's just what you do? Guess fish gotta swim and birds gotta fly.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Uhm, you may haved been banned on the Dodds site two years ago but you've been back for some time. Why are you making this stuff up? Is it because it's just what you do? Guess fish gotta swim and birds gotta fly.

If I try to go there right now from my work computer, I cannot.  Even if no username is used, I cannot.  The IP address is blocked and has been for several years. 

It says in a red strip above the messages "Your access to this site's forums is revoked"   Doesn't matter what I do from here, I cannot get into that site.   I'm happy to post a screenshot if you don't believe me.

[dennycrane]

This is a great move by buzz and co. Clearly saw the lack of potential and said see ya.

If that ends up being what actually happened there are many problems with the scenario you are not grasping.

[Lennys Tap]

Uhm, you may haved been banned on the Dodds site two years ago but you've been back for some time. Why are you making this stuff up? Is it because it's just what you do? Guess fish gotta swim and birds gotta fly.

I owe chicos an apology as he is to this day unable to access the Dodds site from his work computer. Mea culpa.

[bma725]

IWB's only cited source is the original twitter.   So we still have a huge ruckus based on a third party tweet.     I have nothing but respect for IWB and his sources, and his saying he has confirmed it moves the story forward, but something offical, please.

One of Roseboro's high school coaches confirmed it to the the North Star Blog, which is where that twitter came from.  Official release to come on Monday.

[Thomas' Danish Delight]

Where's Todd been?  Todd is my MU Basketball crack...I was also hoping he'd interview Junior about getting cleared!

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

With all of the guys leaving programs these days, I figured Roseboro would leave at some point. He was the least recruited guy on the roster.

[Daniel]

What are the chances we bring someone in for 2009 with the Roseboro scholie?  I am sure Buzz and Co. have know about this for a little while and have been shaking the trees, but what do you think our chance of landing someone good in such a short time?
Or do we bank the scholie for 2010?

[VegasWarrior77]

If I try to go there right now from my work computer, I cannot.  Even if no username is used, I cannot.  The IP address is blocked and has been for several years. 

It says in a red strip above the messages "Your access to this site's forums is revoked"   Doesn't matter what I do from here, I cannot get into that site.   I'm happy to post a screenshot if you don't believe me.

Maybe you should be working from your work computer!

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

It would be very disappointing if this was Buzz initiated.

[77ncaachamps]

It would be very disappointing if this was Buzz initiated.

I think there's a gray area there:

if Buzz told him that he doesn't expect Brett to get anything more than a few minutes a game if he's lucky, then 1) Brett could have decided on his own that he wanted starter minutes so he left or 2) Brett felt Buzz was pressuring him to leave and did so.

With the recent signing, it puts the events on a timeline: Brett notifies buzz he plans on leaving, buzz goes out and signs a player, fans speculate what's going on, word leaks of bretts departure.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Maybe you should be working from your work computer!

We're union, we get breaks

[rocky_warrior]

Couldn't agree more.  Well said!!

LOL...might be the first time those two phrases were uttered about a Hayward post.  Usually the response is "can anyone translate that for me?"

Hayward - have you been drinking again?  Paragraphs?  Sentences?  Capitalization? Punctuation? Even spelling looks decent.  Your posts in this thread might be your best effort ever. 

[MR.HAYWARD]

actuially people agree with my posts all the time....then chicos and Mu84 chime in

[Thomas' Danish Delight]

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2009/08/21/major-news-brett-roseboro-leaving-marquette.aspx

"...a falling out with the coaching staff"

"When asked if he felt Brett, who came on strong during his senior year, would get his release, the answer was a resounding yes. "Without question. They don't want him. They said, 'you're not going to play here.' . . . Brett's not going to get minutes at Marquette." -Toomey Anderson, Quakertown assistant coach

Hmm...I hope this is more of the coaching staff being honest and upfront, just like Buzz was last year with Otule and Fulce ("they're horrible right now, horrendous, don't deserve to play but we needed length" etc.) and perhaps Roseboro wasn't up for the challenge.[

[cheebs09]

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2009/08/21/major-news-brett-roseboro-leaving-marquette.aspx

Hmm...I hope this is more of the coaching staff being honest and upfront, just like Buzz was last year with Otule and Fulce ("they're horrible right now, horrendous, don't deserve to play but we needed length" etc.) and perhaps Roseboro wasn't up for the challenge.[

When I read the article, I can't imagine Buzz coming out and saying in the 4 years he will get no playing time, which is the way the article makes it sound. I do believe in Buzz saying this year he wouldn't get many minutes, but we all knew that going in. He was viewed as being raw and had some skills, but needed to be developed. I just find it hard to believe that the coaching staff would be so eager to cut ties with a kid before even having an official practice, especially when he wasn't expected to be a solid contributor until his junior year. No matter how raw a kid coming in, I figure the coaching staff would feel they could make him improve to be a solid contributor, especially with Brett's skill set. Maybe Brett thought differently as far as his playing time, or was overwhelmed by some of the talent after being in a smaller conference. Either way hopefully it works out for both parties and it wasn't done in a way in which Buzz seemingly ran him off (which I think is unlikely).

[GOMU1104]

With the recent signing, it puts the events on a timeline: Brett notifies buzz he plans on leaving, buzz goes out and signs a player, fans speculate what's going on, word leaks of bretts departure.

Buzz has not signed another player.

[ecompt]

It sounds like all concerned saw what Brett was up against and decided he is nowhere near a Big East player. The reports from the open gym said he was being abused. I doubt if Buzz "ran him off." 

[Nukem2]

It sounds like all concerned saw what Brett was up against and decided he is nowhere near a Big East player. The reports from the open gym said he was being abused. I doubt if Buzz "ran him off." 

In the end, I suspect that Brett and MU simply had a quick romance last Fall and both parties have found out they were not meant for each other and have agreed to an annulment. Unfortunate, but these things do happen.  Best of luck to Brett in his future endeavors.

[MR.HAYWARD]

it also appears the poster and assistant coach are putting words into Buzz's mouth and taking things out of context.  First they said "they dont want him, you're not going to play here".

but then in the next paragraph they say Brett has had no contact with Buzz.

[Knight Commission]

I thought he had a lousy senior season, but the article said he came on strong. I thought I heard he didnt even lead his team in ppg?

If I was going to sit all 4 years I would want to know asap.

[bartmiller#1]

Lots of speculation here about how Buzz and Co. "handled" this departure. 

The kid is 18 y.o.  I think it's just as likely that he realized he wasn't at the same level as the guys he was playing with everyday-- and perhaps thought he was in way over his head.  Maybe he thought he'd get out before he sunk more time into what he knew to be a pipe dream? 

Not all of these kids are delusional about their abilities.  I think it's more likely that he decided to walk away.  The program gains very little from pushing him out at this point.