New Orleans Athletics In Doubt?

[brewnewsman]

longtime reader - didn't see this posted - pretty interesting that UNO students may decide the fate of athletics at UNO.

http://blog.nola.com/tpsports/2009/04/uno_students_set_to_vote_on_at.html

[schubert33]

It all went down hill once Buzz left!!!

[Lennys Tap]

Looks like Buzz was right to doubt UNO's commitment to athletics.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Looks like Buzz was right to doubt UNO's commitment to athletics.

UNO is a public university and their funding comes from further up the food chain.  Is Buzz still suing them by the way?

[ChicosBailBonds]

As an aside, did you know there are more 4 year universities in the state of Louisiana then in Florida or Texas?  It's a bit out of hand and something the Louisiana legislature is looking at in their attempts to cut about $800 million from their budget.

One idea is to merge UNO with Southern University.

[mviale]

UNO is a public university and their funding comes from further up the food chain.  Is Buzz still suing them by the way?

Bobby better take some TARP funds.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Bobby better take some TARP funds.

Yeah, that will fix everything.

[VegasWarrior77]

As an aside, did you know there are more 4 year universities in the state of Louisiana then in Florida or Texas?  It's a bit out of hand and something the Louisiana legislature is looking at in their attempts to cut about $800 million from their budget.

One idea is to merge UNO with Southern University.

Yes there a lot of LA LAs: LA-Tech, LA-Monroe, etc.... Kind of like the LA-LA Land that is California... the land of fruits and nuts!

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yes there a lot of LA LAs: LA-Tech, LA-Monroe, etc.... Kind of like the LA-LA Land that is California... the land of fruits and nuts!

No arguments there.  It's a state in the absolute toilet and run by people that make it worse each passing year.  Beyond repair....only a few more years and I can retire out of here.  Tick tock tick tock.

[GGGG]

UNO is a public university and their funding comes from further up the food chain.  Is Buzz still suing them by the way?

Well, under this place, half the athletics budget would not come from further up the food chain.  It would come from student fees.  Usually such fees are voted on by the student government, which as everyone knows is generally a body of super-involved students that generally not representative of the student body at large and are generally voted in by a small percentage of the students.  What probably happened here is that the student government decided to put this to a full student vote, which makes is passage highly unlikely since my guess is that majority of UNO students don't want their fees increased to pay for athletics.

[GGGG]

As an aside, did you know there are more 4 year universities in the state of Louisiana then in Florida or Texas?  It's a bit out of hand and something the Louisiana legislature is looking at in their attempts to cut about $800 million from their budget.

One idea is to merge UNO with Southern University.

Closing campuses doesn't save as much money as many think.  Unless you cut the number of students enrolled, it would only result in moderate savings because the cost of instruction is the largest cost for most public universities.

If they were going to go through with this option, they should have done it immediately post-Katrina.  They probably put a ton of money into UNO, and *now* they are going to close it?  Makes no sense.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Well, under this place, half the athletics budget would not come from further up the food chain.  It would come from student fees.  Usually such fees are voted on by the student government, which as everyone knows is generally a body of super-involved students that generally not representative of the student body at large and are generally voted in by a small percentage of the students.  What probably happened here is that the student government decided to put this to a full student vote, which makes is passage highly unlikely since my guess is that majority of UNO students don't want their fees increased to pay for athletics.

That is correct, they are asking the students to take on a bigger role of the athletics budget.  Voting ends tonight via the internet.  They've already had more voters than expected but of course the results won't be known until tomorrow.  You can imagine that many students who don't care about athletics are saying no and those that do care are saying yes.  UNO has a pretty good baseball team and a few other sports.  It shall be interesting to see what happens. 

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

As an aside, did you know there are more 4 year universities in the state of Louisiana then in Florida or Texas?  It's a bit out of hand and something the Louisiana legislature is looking at in their attempts to cut about $800 million from their budget.

One idea is to merge UNO with Southern University.

Sounds like Wisconsin versus Illinois. I think both Wisconsin and Illinois have 12 4-year universities. Yes, the Illinois campuses are probably each much larger, but does a place like Wisconsin need 4-year schools 15 minutes apart ala Oshkosh and FDL?

[Skatastrophy]

Sounds like Wisconsin versus Illinois. I think both Wisconsin and Illinois have 12 4-year universities. Yes, the Illinois campuses are probably each much larger, but does a place like Wisconsin need 4-year schools 15 minutes apart ala Oshkosh and FDL?

All state Universities that are in a town of under 100,000 and that don't have direct access to the Interstate system should be closed.  Why put a university in the middle of nowhere?

[GGGG]

Sounds like Wisconsin versus Illinois. I think both Wisconsin and Illinois have 12 4-year universities. Yes, the Illinois campuses are probably each much larger, but does a place like Wisconsin need 4-year schools 15 minutes apart ala Oshkosh and FDL?

Fond du Lac is a two-year school

[GGGG]

All state Universities that are in a town of under 100,000 and that don't have direct access to the Interstate system should be closed.  Why put a university in the middle of nowhere?

This absolutely makes no sense.  Whitewater has an enrollment of nearly 11,000.  Platteville is about 6,500.  Somehow plenty of people can manage to find their way there despite the lack of an interstate highway.  Also, plenty of people seem to want to go to both places since they are operating near capacity. 

Furthermore, if you close either one...or even a place like Superior...you have to do something with those students.  Do they just not go to school or do they go elsewhere?  If they go elsewhere, you are going to have to build residence halls, classrooms, etc. to fit them.  Not much cost savings there.  If the UW System just takes less students...well...that kind of defeats the purpose right?

Believe me, there are a number of problems with the UW System, but over capacity isn't one of them.

[Litehouse]

UW-FDL offers some 4 year degrees now too.

Correction... I just double checked, and while you can get your bachelor's degree with classes on location at FDL, they are actually granted by one of the 4-yr schools.  Although the course offerings of UW extension schools may be one of the more irrelevant discussions ever on here...

[GGGG]

UW-FDL offers some 4 year degrees now too.

Just completion programs on their site offered by other UW schools.

http://www.fdl.uwc.edu/academics/bachelors.html

These are geared for returning adults more than they are new students.  They have no residence halls.

[Skatastrophy]

Whitewater has an enrollment of nearly 11,000.  Platteville is about 6,500.  Somehow plenty of people can manage to find their way there despite the lack of an interstate highway.  Also, plenty of people seem to want to go to both places since they are operating near capacity.

Just because you *can* fill them up with idiots doesn't mean you *should* fill them up with idiots.

Furthermore, if you close either one...or even a place like Superior...you have to do something with those students.  Do they just not go to school or do they go elsewhere?  If they go elsewhere, you are going to have to build residence halls, classrooms, etc. to fit them.  Not much cost savings there.  If the UW System just takes less students...well...that kind of defeats the purpose right?

Believe me, there are a number of problems with the UW System, but over capacity isn't one of them.

Getting worthless degrees from worthless universities isn't worth my (taxpayer) money.  We're living in an age where kids feel entitled to get into some college.  Raising admission requirements and closing worthless satellite schools and maybe a college degree will start to mean something again. 

I didn't say anything about increasing the capacity of the larger state schools.  My point is that if you're only able to get into UW Bumblefuck, maybe you should go to a privately funded prep school to prove that you're serious about school or maybe you should consider working with your hands for a living.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Stout, Superior and River Falls, I believe, are the 3 UW- schools within a close radius.

[muarmy81]

Stout, Superior and River Falls, I believe, are the 3 UW- schools within a close radius.

I wouldn't include Superior with that group:

Stout, LaCrosse, Eau-Claire, River Falls, Oshkosh, Green Bay, and Stevens Point.

[GGGG]

Just because you *can* fill them up with idiots doesn't mean you *should* fill them up with idiots.

Getting worthless degrees from worthless universities isn't worth my (taxpayer) money.  We're living in an age where kids feel entitled to get into some college.  Raising admission requirements and closing worthless satellite schools and maybe a college degree will start to mean something again. 

I didn't say anything about increasing the capacity of the larger state schools.  My point is that if you're only able to get into UW Bumblefrack, maybe you should go to a privately funded prep school to prove that you're serious about school or maybe you should consider working with your hands for a living.

That really is a stupid statement.  Most of the people in this country who get degrees, get them from "satelite schools."  And I can guaranty that 99% of the graduates from these institutions don't feel that they had worthless degrees.  Honestly, it makes me wonder about the value of an MU education if it churns out people like yourself and your narrow, elitist view of the world.

[GGGG]

Stout, Superior and River Falls, I believe, are the 3 UW- schools within a close radius.

River Falls, Stout and Eau Claire are within about 70 miles of one another.  If the tuition agreement with Minnesota ever ended, one of these three would likely close.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

My bad on FDL.

But I think others have made the point I was trying to. We have a number of 4 year schools in Wisconsin not terribly far from one another that do essentially the same thing as one another. And it doesn't really make sense to have each one open. I think we also have 12 2-year schools in Wisconsin. To me, this doesn't make sense. Can't the UW-Fox Cities students get an Associates' at Oshkosh or GB?

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Hey WIZ

what about graduates with degrees in Woman's studies or Ethnic studies?
99% sure about them?