Bob Knight On Mike & Mike Talks About Mizzou/MU End

[MR.HAYWARD]

guys please do not argue with Chicos is going to take the devils advocate or passive/agressive approach with every single thing Mu basketball.  We have heard it for 10 months with Buzz and everything this is just the latest...he is like Murph he is going ot see everything thru an anti Mu lens  until the point when Buzz fails he can say he was right all along.  wow nice life. 

[Lennys Tap]

Well the guy with the whistle in his hands called it a block.  Watching the replay, I don't know how anyone can say McNeal is not only moving his feet but also his body and hits him on the upper left arm.  I just don't see how anyone can say otherwise.  Then again, Bob Knight thinks if you're getting raped you should just sit back and enjoy it (his words, not mine).  Bob is getting up there in age.  The announcers, a former coach by the way, said clearly a block.  The referee said clearly a block.  I don't think the announcers and the referee are bias against MU nor do I think they look at it through gold colored glasses like some are here.

It was a block in my opinion and the man that mattered most, the referee.  Wes got chipped on the pick and that was the key.  It made Jere's rotation late as he slid into Tiller, thus the foul.  Easy call and it was made with same ease.  No hesitation by the ref.  Correct call in my opinion (we're all allowed to have one I think....the ref had his)

Thank you for reducing your stance from stated FACT to strong OPINION. That's all I was asking for. You have every right to your opinion and I would be the last person to deny you that.

There are some statements made to bolster your arguement that I just don't get. Help me if you would.
1.How does the fact that Knight is in his 60s and holds some primitive views on social matters make him incapable of distinguishing a block from a charge?
2.You say that it was an "easy call and it was made with the same ease" and that there was "no hesitation by the ref". I don't know how one determines when a ref makes a call "with ease" but saying that a call is right because it was made without hesitation is absurd.
3.Again, your right to an opinion was not questioned by anyone, only the right to state your opinion as a fact.

[ChicosBailBonds]

guys please do not argue with Chicos is going to take the devils advocate or passive/agressive approach with every single thing Mu basketball.  We have heard it for 10 months with Buzz and everything this is just the latest...he is like Murph he is going ot see everything thru an anti Mu lens  until the point when Buzz fails he can say he was right all along.  wow nice life. 

Yes, I'm an anti-MU guy.  You nailed it.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

Thank you for reducing your stance from stated FACT to strong OPINION. That's all I was asking for. You have every right to your opinion and I would be the last person to deny you that.

There are some statements made to bolster your arguement that I just don't get. Help me if you would.
1.How does the fact that Knight is in his 60s and holds some primitive views on social matters make him incapable of distinguishing a block from a charge?
2.You say that it was an "easy call and it was made with the same ease" and that there was "no hesitation by the ref". I don't know how one determines when a ref makes a call "with ease" but saying that a call is right because it was made without hesitation is absurd.
3.Again, your right to an opinion was not questioned by anyone, only the right to state your opinion as a fact.

It was always an opinion, never anything more.  Look at the replay again, the ref calls it immediately, no hesitation.  That's what I mean by easy call, confident call, no hesitation.  Plenty of calls are made by refs that hesitate when the arm goes and then decides if it's charge or block.  Not with this call, he had it right from the beginning, at least in his mind and that's all that counts.

Do you think Bob gets all the calls right?  Do you think maybe he's been a blowhard a time or two and refuses to see things any other way?  You decide, I'll let his tantrums speak for themselves. 

I'm going with what my eyes saw which happen to be 25 years younger than Bob's, the same thing the refs eyes saw, the same thing the announcers saw (including one as a former DI coach).  The "ayes" have it.   

[MuMark]

Lazar messed up the pick and roll defense on that play not Wes. MU was playing switch all screens and Lazar didn't switch.


Buzz talked about it on his radio show. He mentioned that Lazar felt horrible about both mistakes he made down the stretch.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Lazar messed up the pick and roll defense on that play not Wes. MU was playing switch all screens and Lazar didn't switch.


Buzz talked about it on his radio show. He mentioned that Lazar felt horrible about both mistakes he made down the stretch.

Thanks for the clarification...that pick worked wonders, took two guys out (Wes and Lazar).  Whomever it was, we were caught and that's why the late rotation and the block (in the refs opinion, announcers opinion, etc)

[tower912]

It looked like a block to me.   Real time, replay, whatever.   The missed grabs and pulls on Jimmy Butler's jersey were missed calls, the travel when Wes got knocked to the ground during the Mizzu run in the first half was a missed call.   Mo was pushed on that last shot, but short of knocking him to the floor with a two-handed shove, that call is not going to be made.  I admire and respect Knight for his accomplishments and acumen, but this looked like a block.    As much as I would like otherwise. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

It looked like a block to me.   Real time, replay, whatever.   The missed grabs and pulls on Jimmy Butler's jersey were missed calls, the travel when Wes got knocked to the ground during the Mizzu run in the first half was a missed call.   Mo was pushed on that last shot, but short of knocking him to the floor with a two-handed shove, that call is not going to be made.  I admire and respect Knight for his accomplishments and acumen, but this looked like a block.    As much as I would like otherwise. 

First, let me say that you are obviously anti-MU and clearly want MU to fail and Buzz to be fired.   

No questioni, that pull on the jersey was a huge blown call as Butler was completely yanked out of the play and happened right in front of the ref (is that being anti-MU Hayward??).  That call sucked hard.  The Wes call with the arm to the back, another blown call by them.  But there were a few others that went our way, too.   Whether or not Mo was fouled there at the end, I've never seen a conclusive angle to show if he was hit or flopping.....is there one out there?

[tower912]

The defender's hands were on Mo essentially from half court until he shot.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

The defender's hands were on Mo essentially from half court until he shot.   

I know I'll be accused of being anti-MU, but it's hard for me to tell with this angle which is why I wish they had one under the basket.  It looks to me like he knocks him down, but I can't tell due to the angle if he was rubbed or literally pushed down.


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