MU's history with "risky" hires

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Wait ... aren't you the guy who saw fit to raise Al McGuire's NBA playing experience as part of his strong resume that would have us talking? Now you, for all intents, note that it's meaningless because he was hired in 1964?
Which is it?

What I'm saying, brainiac, was that in 1964 there was no established record of failure of former NBA coaches at the college level and it would absolutely be a selling point to the Milwaukee and Marquette community back then. Are you going to dispute this? Marquette was a program in the toilet and they hired a guy who not only played for a legendary college coach in Frank McGuire (and had his recommendation in his back pocket), he had the New York Knicks on his resume. I am saying Al McGuire's resume was so far beyond the toilet paper our coach's was printed on it's not even close.

How many of the coaches that you listed actually played basketball in college? How about high school? I'm going to go ahead and guess every single one of them.

Did any of them abandon their previous jobs? Would any of them have been considered for a major D1 coaching job at their universities had they left their previous job less than a year after accepting it? Would Wisconsin Green-Bay have hired any of those guys? Would Wisconsin Green-Bay have hired Buzz Williams as their head coach last year? The answer is no. The only university in the country...major, mid-major or low-major...who would have considered Buzz Williams as their head coach last year was Marquette.

Are you seriously arguing that this wasn't a risky hire?

I don't even mind the guy, but you're just nuts.

 

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Sounds like Jim Les

Jim Les has a FAR superior resume to Buzz Williams. It's not even close. Jim Les also played for the school he coaches. It'd be like Diener coming back to coach the Warriors.

[Pakuni]

Jim Les has a FAR superior resume to Buzz Williams. It's not even close. Jim Les also played for the school he coaches. It'd be like Diener coming back to coach the Warriors.

Why are you so obsessed with Buzz's resume and who would or would not have hired him last year?
Whether Buzz Williams is a great coach at Marquette or terrible coach at Marquette is not dependent on where he went to college. Not dependent on where or whether he played. Not dependent on whether UW-Green Bay would have hired him. Not dependant on where he coached previously.
None of those things matter.
It's wholly irrelevant and it's even less relevant today, now that we've got about 12 months of work experience at Marquette to talk about.

[BrewCity83]

Why are you so obsessed with Buzz's resume and who would or would not have hired him last year?
Whether Buzz Williams is a great coach at Marquette or terrible coach at Marquette is not dependent on where he went to college. Not dependent on where or whether he played. Not dependent on whether UW-Green Bay would have hired him. Not dependant on where he coached previously.
None of those things matter.
It's wholly irrelevant and it's even less irrelevant today, now that we've got about 12 months of work experience at Marquette to talk about.

352 days.

[THEGYMBAR]

Let's face it, Buzz had no resume and that is why he was on no other school's short list. When Buzz was announced last year there were plenty of laughs around the country. Biggest one came from TC because he knows the business better than any of us.

Buzz was picked out of ease and not selected by his resume/interview. The process was flawed and the selection very possibly could be one that takes us back 10 years.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Why are you so obsessed with Buzz's resume and who would or would not have hired him last year?
Whether Buzz Williams is a great coach at Marquette or terrible coach at Marquette is not dependent on where he went to college. Not dependent on where or whether he played. Not dependent on whether UW-Green Bay would have hired him. Not dependant on where he coached previously.
None of those things matter.
It's wholly irrelevant and it's even less relevant today, now that we've got about 12 months of work experience at Marquette to talk about.

Obsessed? This thread is about risky hires. His resume made him a risk. That's not obsession, it's sticking to the topic.

[Marquette84]

Jim Les has a FAR superior resume to Buzz Williams. It's not even close. Jim Les also played for the school he coaches. It'd be like Diener coming back to coach the Warriors.

Is it April 1? 

You're seriously suggesting that a guy with ZERO college coaching experience before going to Bradley, where he has made exactly 1 NCAA tournament in 7 years, and that makes him "FAR superior"?

The only guy who's completely nuts here is you. 

Having had the opportunity to see Buzz Williams as an MU assistant while he ran recruiting rings around Les, the notion that Les was somehow less risky boggles the mind.

In college basketball, recruiting is more important than anything else, and Buzz led a SIGNIFICANT improvement in recruiting in just one season as assistant.

Seriously, which is less risk?

--Buzz wouldn't be able to duplicate as HC what he already proved he can do as an assistant at both Texas A&M and MU.
--Les would be able to recruit much better than he ever did at Bradley.

You are correct--its not even close.  Les is the far more risky choice.