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Poll:  What Will MU Be Seeded?

3 or better
0 (0%)
4
0 (0%)
5
4 (3.7%)
6
37 (33.9%)
7
45 (41.3%)
8
17 (15.6%)
9 or worse
6 (5.5%)

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Tugg Speedman

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Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« on: March 15, 2009, 08:38:42 AM »
I picked 5.  I think all the upsets helped MU.  Hard to single them out.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2009, 09:23:01 AM »
I picked 5.  I think all the upsets helped MU.  Hard to single them out.

Actually, the James injury makes it pretty easy to single them out.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2009, 09:35:06 AM »
Should be a 5/6, will be a 7.  Hoping for Minny as the site with Mich. St. as our 2 seed.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2009, 09:37:38 AM »
I'd take the current version of Bracketology...7 seed MU in Minneapolis with 2 seed MSU, opposite 3 Wake Forest/6 LSU to be played in Indianapolis. As much as MSU is typically a team to be avoided early in the NCAA, I'd gladly sign on for that right now.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2009, 09:47:42 AM »
Latest bracket projection has them at 10. I rather be an 11th. Potential 2nd round against a 3 is preferable to a second round game against a 2. I believe we will beat a 6th or 7th seed.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2009, 10:34:58 AM »
I believe every projection I have seen has Illinois, Xavier, Clemson, and UCLA all seeded ahead of MU. Can anyone make the case for those teams?
« Last Edit: March 15, 2009, 10:37:15 AM by NavinRJohnson »

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2009, 10:39:50 AM »
I think we have a legitimate argument for a 6 but will wind up a 7 just because it seems  that's always what happens.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2009, 10:58:39 AM »
I believe every projection I have seen has Illinois, Xavier, Clemson, and UCLA all seeded ahead of MU. Can anyone make the case for those teams?

If you believe the RPI, Illinois has 10 wins vs the top 50 versus only 3 for MU.

Our resume using this type of analysis is not compelling.

I think we could beat a lot of the big 11, who are top 50 rpi teams, with James out however.  This includes Illinois.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2009, 11:12:55 AM »
I'm going to say 9, with a very difficult first round match-up.
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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2009, 11:27:41 AM »
I just hope we get in, period! Don't want to get Syracused.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2009, 11:33:46 AM »
Absolutely no way we don't get in

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2009, 11:46:05 AM »
If you believe the RPI, Illinois has 10 wins vs the top 50 versus only 3 for MU.

Our resume using this type of analysis is not compelling.

Same with Memphis who is going to get a number 1 seed. Its time to scrap the RPI.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2009, 12:00:22 PM »
Question really comes down to whether the committee does their homework or simply takes the easy, lazy approach. If they do the former, they will see that MU's recent losses came to 3 number 1 seeds, and two 3/4 seeds. Bounce the teams have slated on the 5/6/7 lines against that schedule and reasonably apply the eye test to estimate how they would fare. When you talk about Illinois, Xavier, Clemson, UCLA, Purdue, Butler, I'll take MU over most of them. Even if you don't like that, now do the same thing with the 8/9/10 seeds, and gets silly.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2009, 12:03:24 PM »
Gameday called us a 8/9.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2009, 12:07:42 PM »
Gameday called us a 8/9.

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If that happens, hopefully Memphis is the 1 in our bracket.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2009, 12:09:26 PM »
Navin your last post is excellent.  You know I think what gets lost in all of this is seedings are determined with so much stock being put into statistics.  It has to be that way to some extent, because the committee can not base their decisions on in-person viewing of the games.  You are right - if other teams that are currently being considered as 5 through 10 seeds played the schedule we did the last six games, most of them would have fared worse than us IMO.  So the question should be which is the better team - statistics aside?  Impossible to answer since no one on the committee has watched every game for every team - so they rely on statistics (wins, losses, RPI, SOS, etc)

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2009, 12:10:23 PM »
Our 5-7 final 12 game record and 1-5 since the loss of DJ, need for p/c conference balance, and others in the BE peaking is gonna cost us dearly.   A 8th seed seems right in the selection committee's eyes.  Every other team has their story.  Ours isn't that compelling.  

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2009, 12:13:31 PM »
Is it too late for Buzz to make a press release indicating the DJ's condition has unexpectedly improved to Chester Frazier status, and he MAY be available for tournament play?

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2009, 12:16:06 PM »
If that happens, hopefully Memphis is the 1 in our bracket.


Yea, it would be great to play the best defensive team in the country.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2009, 12:37:18 PM »
So you would rather play Pitt or NC?

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2009, 12:38:48 PM »
Just looking at the "Bracket Project" history, and they have been on the money with the exception of 2007 when McNeal broke his hand and we were projected as a 6 and ended up a 9. Not quite the same situation this year given the time difference and games played since the injury. MU also lost 5 of 8 down the stretch against nowhere near the level of competition they saw at the end of this season. MU currently projecting as a 7.

Mentally preparing more and more for the 8/9 game on Thursday at 11:30 in Greensboro.
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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2009, 12:41:18 PM »
So you would rather play Pitt or NC?

I would rather play UNC.  I'm not saying we'd win but I think we match up better against them than a team like Memphis.

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2009, 12:51:40 PM »
Here is a question:  With the talent of this team and the incredibly tough schedule we ended with, can being underseeded a good thing?  See Nova last year.  Most of our bad match-ups are with BE teams, who we won't see for a couple of rounds. 

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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2009, 01:00:17 PM »
7 seed playing mich state in the 2nd round. please.
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Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Seeded?
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2009, 01:00:53 PM »
I would rather play UNC.  I'm not saying we'd win but I think we match up better against them than a team like Memphis.

I am just hoping not to see an 8 or 9 next to our name tonight.  I would rather be under seeded.

 

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