What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?

[rugbydrummer]

Avenue Commons was an MU public relations disaster in the mid 1990s where the university wanted to close WI AVE through campus.   They were rather arrogant toward the city and once the hospital said it would interrupt ambulance service, then it was dead in the water.  Generated lots of hard feelings from the city toward MU.

although nowadays saying WI AVE. is a "fast/direct" thoroughfare is a joke!  Anyone with two neurons firing does well to take clybourn/MI ave or wells depending on East/West velocity.  I agree closing down WI ave. would mess up the bus routes for sure, though. 

[Badgerhater]

I like how they landscaped WI AVE and marked the campus entrances with columns.....but I am glad they did it after I went there.  One can no longer jaywalk.

The next crap building to go near campus will be the one that Super China used to be in.

[bs4173]

I like how they landscaped WI AVE and marked the campus entrances with columns.....but I am glad they did it after I went there.  One can no longer jaywalk.

The next crap building to go near campus will be the one that Super China used to be in.

Where did Super China used to be?

[MUsoxfan]

13th/Wells

[Brewtown Andy]

Grebe's was further east at 12th.  Dal's is the answer to this puzzle.  Frankly, they should have built a shrine!

Zilber Hall is going to run the entire length of the 1200 block of Wisconsin, so it is occupying the area that Grebe's used to be in.

[rugbydrummer]

I like how they landscaped WI AVE and marked the campus entrances with columns.....but I am glad they did it after I went there.  One can no longer jaywalk.

The next crap building to go near campus will be the one that Super China used to be in.

Sure you can, you just have to be a good steeplechaser

[MARQKC]

Whoa there, youngsters.  Not only was there a tunnel under Wisconsin Avenue at 13th Street, there was Milt's Hamburgers.  Talk about grease!

Yes, indeed. Check the photo at the bottom of the page from the 1968 Hilltop:

http://digitalmarquette.cdmhost.com/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/p4007hilltop&CISOPTR=44381&REC=14

Although, I remember it as Dal's, too.

[classof70]

Yes, indeed. Check the photo at the bottom of the page from the 1968 Hilltop:

http://digitalmarquette.cdmhost.com/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/p4007hilltop&CISOPTR=44381&REC=14

Although, I remember it as Dal's, too.

Interesting to look at the pictures in the year book. I don't remember, or more accurately forgot about the median and street lights on Wisconsin Avenues.  I think it was known both as Milt's and Dal's, though I too remember it as Dal's.  I looked through the pictures looking for familiar faces.  I recognize one as  a professor of law at St. Louis University and I another who is now a professor at LaSalle. 

[ecompt]

Funny. I remember it as Dal's when I arrived in Milwaukee in September of 1968.

[Nukem2]

Yes, indeed. Check the photo at the bottom of the page from the 1968 Hilltop:

http://digitalmarquette.cdmhost.com/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/p4007hilltop&CISOPTR=44381&REC=14

Although, I remember it as Dal's, too.

Hey, I'm a '68 grad and you can see my picture among the seniors...! 

[romey]

hey, when I click on that link, it only takes me to the cover of the yearbook. what page has the picture everyone is referring to?

[jmayer1]

hey, when I click on that link, it only takes me to the cover of the yearbook. what page has the picture everyone is referring to?

click the items on the left side of the page to get to the different sections of the yearbook

[Avenue Commons]

Avenue Commons was an MU public relations disaster in the mid 1990s where the university wanted to close WI AVE through campus.   They were rather arrogant toward the city and once the hospital said it would interrupt ambulance service, then it was dead in the water.  Generated lots of hard feelings from the city toward MU.

Not quite. It was one vote in the Milwaukee city council from getting passed and the alderman who held the tie breaking vote (name escapes me but ironically an MU grad) asked his wife what to do and she said to vote against it. And that's what killed it. But if the wife gave a different answer, then it would have been built.

You are right that it did generate some hard feelings from locals. But a lot of those people hate the "rich kids at Marquette" anyways.

I happen to believe that it would have been good for MU and added cohesion to campus. Campus looks amazing now and it is a lot better than it was 15 years ago when Avenue Commons was proposed, but I still think it would have been great. Hence my screen name.

[Warrior of Law]

Actually, the 9-8 vote was for the scaled down version of Avenue Commons.  The scaled-down version was a narrower road, with no median.  The alderman you're thinking of who voted against the proposal was Robert Anderson.  Anderson was old and crazy.  I actually thought that the original version was pretty interesting and I supported the project.  The scaled down version would have been a traffic boondoogle.  The current situation is far better than the losing proposal.

[Avenue Commons]

Actually, the 9-8 vote was for the scaled down version of Avenue Commons.  The scaled-down version was a narrower road, with no median.  The alderman you're thinking of who voted against the proposal was Robert Anderson.  Anderson was old and crazy.  I actually thought that the original version was pretty interesting and I supported the project.  The scaled down version would have been a traffic boondoogle.  The current situation is far better than the losing proposal.

I think you're right. I forgot about the compromised scaled down version. I like the current set up better than the scaled down version. However, I liked the version that created a unified campus the most. It would have been great.

[77ncaachamps]

Check out page 125...groovy and a bit odd, too!

BTW, which page was Dal's on?