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Of the best MU teams in recent history, where does 2023-24 stack up?

1978-79: Toone, Worthen, Ball, Lee, Wilson; record 22-7
4 (3%)
1993-94: Key, McIlvaine, Eford, Miller, Pieper; record 24-9
5 (3.7%)
2012-13: Anderson, Cadougan, Blue, Lockette, Otule; record 26-9
0 (0%)
2002-03: Wade, Diener, Novak, Merritt, Jackson; record 27-6
96 (71.1%)
2023-24: Kolek, Jones, Ighodaro, Mitchell, Joplin; record 27-9
30 (22.2%)

Total Members Voted: 135

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 27, 2024, 11:22:37 AM
In a vacuum? No, they aren't a 100% free throw shooter. But when Markus Howard was a >90% free throw shooter and would shoot underneath that I'd personally say he choked at the line that game.

94's the only 90s team listed, because as you say they lead MU out of the wilderness plus they made a sweet 16, but a few years ago someone ran a bunch of top teams of each decade or maybe era polls and plenty of people decided 96 (4seed lose to Austin Crosshare and Providence in round of 32) was the better all around team.
Sorry, I missed that you said '96.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

The Lens

We lost to a Duke team that had Grant Hill as a junior.  The level of competition then was so high and MU was competing night in and night with teams stacked with NBA players while we had Mac, baby Amal and infant Crawford. 

Also, Tony Miller the PointFather.

And of course, Damon.
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Judge Smails

It's clearly not much of a debate. Teams are measured by how far they go in the tournament. There certainly have been a lot of teams that had the talent to reach the final 4 since 1977, but only one team has done it. Maybe other teams had more talent, but their failure to advance to the FF puts them behind the 03 team in my book.

JWags85

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 27, 2024, 11:22:37 AM
In a vacuum? No, they aren't a 100% free throw shooter. But when Markus Howard was a >90% free throw shooter and would shoot underneath that I'd personally say he choked at the line that game.

94's the only 90s team listed, because as you say they lead MU out of the wilderness plus they made a sweet 16, but a few years ago someone ran a bunch of top teams of each decade or maybe era polls and plenty of people decided 96 (4seed lose to Austin Crosshare and Providence in round of 32) was the better all around team.

96 was the 4 seed that lost to Arkansas when Kareem Reid was out of his mind.  97 was the 7 seed that lost to Providence in round 1.

Both teams were good, but neither were unreal or stacking up to any of Crean/Buzz/Wojo/Shaka's best.  They were fringe top 20 teams at their very peak.

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Quote from: The Lens on March 27, 2024, 09:34:08 AM
To the 3 other people who voted 1994, congrats. You know ball.

Agree Lens,

And even if you are being sarcastic, which I don't think you are, I still love that team.  Thought they could/should have beaten Duke.  What a fun team to watch.

Late to the party.  Saw your comment on the first page Lens but just read the one on this one.  Fully agree with you.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: JWags85 on March 27, 2024, 08:47:47 PM
96 was the 4 seed that lost to Arkansas when Kareem Reid was out of his mind.  97 was the 7 seed that lost to Providence in round 1.

Both teams were good, but neither were unreal or stacking up to any of Crean/Buzz/Wojo/Shaka's best.  They were fringe top 20 teams at their very peak.

Thanks for the correction. So were they over seeded? Seems odd that they'd snag that 4 seed back then and not be at least in the conversation

I mean 2003, 2012, & 2013 were 3 seeds and 2002 & 2019 were 5 so it seems like they'd be in the conversation with those 5 teams more so than every other team except maybe what could have been in 08-09.
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