Tre Norman

[MU82]

Shaka after UConn game:

"Tre Norman was very good. I like the competitive fire in his eyes. That's the guy we recruited. He played with no fear. As a coach, you're always looking for little things you can take out of games that guys can build on. ... This was a high, high level game, and Tre looked like he belonged."

[tower912]

Two good games in the last 3.  Puked away the other one.   He isn't TKo and likely never will be.  He will be fine.

[Stretchdeltsig]

Shaka after UConn game:

"Tre Norman was very good. I like the competitive fire in his eyes. That's the guy we recruited. He played with no fear. As a coach, you're always looking for little things you can take out of games that guys can build on. ... This was a high, high level game, and Tre looked like he belonged."

Agree. Tre looked good. Touches of Butch Lee. He's a fighter who will help Marquette win.

[Viper]

Agree. Tre looked good. Touches of Butch Lee. He's a fighter who will help Marquette win.

Butch Lee? '78 College POY. Where did you see some Butch Lee in Tre's game?

[MU82]

It's interesting how for awhile there, Norman looked totally lost and Lowery was earning more PT with his good play, and now it's Zaide who can't stay on the court while Tre is looking good and getting PT.

Freshmen ... can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em (though Shaka often does).

[tower912]

In his two good games recently, Tre has reminded me of freshman year Sean Jones on offense.  Intellectually knows what the offense is, attacks and get his own, not seeing passing lanes yet.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Tre Norman starting to look a bit like freshman year Stevie Mitchell.  One more year as his understudy, then Tre replaces Stevie.

[MU82]

Tre Norman starting to look a bit like freshman year Stevie Mitchell.  One more year as his understudy, then Tre replaces Stevie.

Great, so for the rest of this season and all of next season we'll have two piles of dung.

[Newsdreams]

Great, so for the rest of this season and all of next season we'll have two piles of dung.

MU to become a dung team

[MuMark]

Add Jamal Shead to the small list of players who did little their first year and developed into a star

Scored 85 points and had 39 assists in 26 games.......he shot 3-24 from 3.

Just saw it today .....and no I'm not suggesting that Norman will became an all American........just that it's too soon to write him off......

[MU82]

Only dopes and mopes write off college athletes their freshmen year. Any of us could find dozens of examples of guys who did little as freshmen and went on to become outstanding players.

[tower912]

OMax, 22 games, 10 minutes game.  2.5 ppg.   
Oso, 38 minutes all season.
Stevie, 11 minutes per game. 2.8 ppg
TKo, 2.3 asssts per game.   Shooting guard.



And yet, here we are.

[Uncle Rico]

OMax, 22 games, 10 minutes game.  2.5 ppg.   
Oso, 38 minutes all season.

Honestly, had Shaka cut them and gotten better players, it would have behooved him

[tower912]

Sorry, Rico.  I felt compelled to keep going.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

OMax, 22 games, 10 minutes game.  2.5 ppg.   
Oso, 38 minutes all season.
Stevie, 11 minutes per game. 2.8 ppg
TKo, 2.3 asssts per game.   Shooting guard.



And yet, here we are.

The less you play freshman year the more likely you turn into a 1st round NBA draft pick.

Amadou ---> NBA

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

The less you play freshman year the more likely you turn into a 1st round NBA draft pick.

Amadou ---> NBA

I mean it worked for D-Wade

[tower912]

Nah.  Just don't write off freshmen.  But only a small percentage are game changers from day 1.

[MU82]

I mean, the entire starting lineup for Madison's 2013-14 Final Four team ranged from "nothing special" to "basically sucked" as freshmen:

Kaminsky 1.8 ppg ... Jackson 1.1 ppg ... Brust 0.7 ppg ... Gasser 5.9 ppg ... Dekker 9.6 ppg.

As I said, given 15 minutes to use the googles, any of us could come up with dozens of examples like this.

None of which "proves" that Amadou, Norman or Lowery will become standouts. I don't think anybody is saying anything differently. More like: "Please don't dismiss relatively unproductive freshmen as players who will never produce."

And BTW, Kaminsky sucked as a sophomore, too.

[GoFastAndWin]

Butch Lee? '78 College POY. Where did you see some Butch Lee in Tre's game?

Actually, there was a play in the Providence game where Tre deftly changed direction and with strength split two defenders taking it to the rack for what looked like an easy bucket. It was anything but. Other than Kam, I don't think anyone else on our roster could've pulled that drive off. And maybe Alfred Butch Lee too.

[Viper]

Actually, there was a play in the Providence game where Tre deftly changed direction and with strength split two defenders taking it to the rack for what looked like an easy bucket. It was anything but. Other than Kam, I don't think anyone else on our roster could've pulled that drive off. And maybe Alfred Butch Lee too.

ah, but can Tre push an American Olympic team to the brink as Butch did ??😉