Seton Hell

[muwarrior69]

wiscwarrior

Al's  teams often had close games against mid level teams as well. As I noted, they won those games but it was seldom a masterpiece you talked about for days. It was more like the 9-0 run MU had  today, quick burst and game over. Another big difference, MU has trailed in a lot of games the past two years, back in the day there was not much digging out of holes.

In '71 IRRC we were down more than 20 points against Detroit at their place and came back to win to get our undefeated season. I find it quite absurd to have any meaningful comparisons to Al's teams to Shaka's teams. The game is different, no shot clock and no 3pt shot, a team could essentially hold the ball forever on offense (4 corners offense); plus the P5 conferences only had 8-10 teams; most schools were independent and seldom played any team twice in the same season.

[Goose]

warrior69

There is zero comparison between the two era's. Was simply saying that good teams do not always play great basketball. I used the Al era because this is a MU basketball forum. Yes, you are correct MU did have a nice number of comebacks, but led far more than they trailed, especially to lesser teams.

[wiscwarrior]

Not sure if this is meant to be a serious question but there was no seeding in 1977.

I wondered about that, but point still remains. I don't think they would have been a high seed.

[tower912]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=PRgI2tIsJ_CShyFr&v=weS9N2uDMdM&feature=youtu.be

Shaka calling out commitment to win in practice, not playing in the moment, not playing good defense.     

Chase's arm popped out, popped back in.   

[Uncle Rico]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=PRgI2tIsJ_CShyFr&v=weS9N2uDMdM&feature=youtu.be

Shaka calling out commitment to win in practice, not playing in the moment, not playing good defense.     

Chase's arm popped out, popped back in.

Practice?  Huh.

[tower912]

Not everyone practices with the same commitment to winning as Oso.

[Uncle Rico]

Not everyone practices with the same commitment to winning as Oso.

I was told here once by someone practice doesn't matter

[tower912]

I get that a scooper would say that.   Coaches consistently think it does.

[Scoop Snoop]

I get that a scooper would say that.   Coaches consistently think it does.

Coaches think they know more than we scoopers do.

[Newsdreams]

I was told here once by someone practice doesn't matter

https://youtu.be/eGDBR2L5kzI?si=ykUfArD_2Hbeo2d3

[Shooter McGavin]

I was told here once by someone practice doesn't matter

Iverson is on scoop?

[Newsdreams]

Iverson is on scoop?

Yes, see above

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

This team is no where near at national contender, let alone a top 10 team. I fully expect to be out of the top 15 on Monday.

So close.  Only off by 5 spots and 311 votes

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Honestly,  this one didn't bother me as much as Providence or Bucky. Halls a worse team for sure but I think we played much better than those two losses. Hall made some shots they normally dont. Kolek won't be this bad again this season.  Kam is too good a shooter to stay in this slump.  Any one of those three things change and we win this one easily.

Biggest concern besides chases shoulder is that our normally elite defense failed for only the second time this season. Shaka was pissed postgame. Im confident that will be properly addressed.

[Shooter McGavin]

Honestly,  this one didn't bother me as much as Providence or Bucky. Halls a worse team for sure but I think we played much better than those two losses. Hall made some shots they normally dont. Kolek won't be this bad again this season.  Kam is too good a shooter to stay in this slump.  Any one of those three things change and we win this one easily.

Biggest concern besides chases shoulder is that our normally elite defense failed for only the second time this season. Shaka was pissed postgame. Im confident that will be properly addressed.

You saying they simply have to play better?  You sound like a coach.  I like it.  And I think you are right.

[muwarrior69]

Honestly,  this one didn't bother me as much as Providence or Bucky. Halls a worse team for sure but I think we played much better than those two losses. Hall made some shots they normally dont. Kolek won't be this bad again this season.  Kam is too good a shooter to stay in this slump.  Any one of those three things change and we win this one easily.

Biggest concern besides chases shoulder is that our normally elite defense failed for only the second time this season. Shaka was pissed postgame. Im confident that will be properly addressed.

No stat guy here, but this seem to happen quite a bit and is magnified when we lose.

[MU82]

No stat guy here, but this seem to happen quite a bit and is magnified when we lose.

It happens to every team ... and when it happens, fans think it only happens to their team.

You don't think Creighton fans were bemoaning that Sean and Stevie combined to hit five 3s against them? You don't think UCLA fans were lamenting Sean hitting the winning 3? "I could see if it was Kam Jones, but not the little Jones - he's shooting like 1%!"