The Lost Season

[MU82]

It's not where they do it, it's what they do while they're there. That's one reason I like Craig Smith, who has improved his teams every year and overachieves expectations repeatedly. Or why many are fans of Darian DeVries. Another that hasn't been mentioned but I'd give a look at is Grant McCasland, who hasn't won big, but has dramatically better results than the programs he's been at are accustomed to and regularly makes his teams much, much better.

We'd all love a Beilein type, but when they don't come, I'd take any of those three over some of the better known names that could be mentioned, like Anthony Grant or Porter Moser.

OK. I hope we get somebody who proves to be good, regardless of resume.

I have no idea how a guy will do before he has to do it. I mean, there was absolutely no way to predict that Buzz would be any good at all. Or Crean or KO, for that matter. I'm sure Texas thought they were getting somebody who wouldn't take 6 years to be any good -- and Shaka still has won exactly as many NCAA Tournament games as Texas coach as Wojo has at MU.

I sure couldn't have predicted any success at all for Beard or Holtmann based on each of their resumes, so I applaud your ability to do so.

[Stretchdeltsig]

What we're seeing from Woj is a guy who doesn't have a handle on his team, program, or coaching. His approach seems to be more of wanting to be a buddy or pal, than a mentor or coach, hey?

Seems very true.
The bottom line is he's not a good coach. Wish it were different but by his own admission he doesn't know how to coach. The trend points downward. Not good after 7 years. It's too bad we waste so much money on a bad HC. Not sure if any of his staff are good either. We need a new coach who hates losing. Who hates turn overs. Who can teach and coach up players.

[MU82]

We need a new coach who hates losing.

Every coach at every level hates losing. Even Wojo.

[brewcity77]

I sure couldn't have predicted any success at all for Beard or Holtmann based on each of their resumes, so I applaud your ability to do so.

My point is that there are other indicators than just the program a coach comes from. There's a reason Beard was immediately hired by UNLV, then hired away by Texas Tech.

No one is guaranteed success. I never said nor inferred that. But I do believe there are coaches that will excite fans that aren't Beilein, Matta, or someone with a similar resume.

[MU82]

My point is that there are other indicators than just the program a coach comes from. There's a reason Beard was immediately hired by UNLV, then hired away by Texas Tech.

No one is guaranteed success. I never said nor inferred that. But I do believe there are coaches that will excite fans that aren't Beilein, Matta, or someone with a similar resume.

Here's hoping we get to test that theory in less than 2 months!

[jesmu84]

My point is that there are other indicators than just the program a coach comes from. There's a reason Beard was immediately hired by UNLV, then hired away by Texas Tech.

No one is guaranteed success. I never said nor inferred that. But I do believe there are coaches that will excite fans that aren't Beilein, Matta, or someone with a similar resume.

There are a lot of loud voices here that will express their displeasure if we hire an assistant, a re-tread, etc.

There were a lot who expressed their displeasure with Buzz and Wojo hires simply because they weren't the caliber of what Matta or Belein would be now.

There are those who believe MU is a destination job and it should be looked at akin to a blueblood. And any hire less than the top of the mountain is a failure on the AD or admin.

More rational folks would have your viewpoint on a hire like Holtman or Beard.

[Uncle Rico]

Hiring coaches is a crapshoot, baby

[Lennys Tap]

Hiring coaches is a crapshoot, baby

Yep.

That's why I laugh when some Scooper loves or hates a hire (though I admit I broke my rule and got excited when Shaka was a #donedeal.

I'm neutral until convinced otherwise. Buzz had me in his corner by January of his first year - my first post here said as much. Took a little longer to be convinced Wojo was a bust.

[MU82]

I was quick to like Buzz, too. But I'm a pretty easy mark, as I'm a benefit-of-the-doubt optimist when it comes to the teams I root for, especially Marquette.

I was hopeful about (and expecting good results from) Hank, Majerus, Dukiet, KO, Deane, Creane, Buzz, Wojo ... all of 'em! Some didn't work out. Some worked out very well.

Next man up ... I think he'll get it done!

[Uncle Rico]

Yep.

That's why I laugh when some Scooper loves or hates a hire (though I admit I broke my rule and got excited when Shaka was a #donedeal.

I'm neutral until convinced otherwise. Buzz had me in his corner by January of his first year - my first post here said as much. Took a little longer to be convinced Wojo was a bust.

Same here on all 3.  I don't know of any potential candidate to replace Wojo that will really move the needle for me.  That's more of a "I'm not sure who the hell is the hot thing" than anything and Shaka was definitely the hot thing in 2014.  I've been talking myself into Porter Moser *ducks*

[willie warrior]

Hiring coaches is a crapshoot, baby

Yes
So never gamble. Do not play the game of chance.
Stick with what we have and throw in a 10 year extension.

[Uncle Rico]

Yes
So never gamble. Do not play the game of chance.
Stick with what we have and throw in a 10 year extension.

That's not the point.  The point is, hiring coaches is a crapshoot.  Take a look at the hires of the last decade across the college basketball landscape.  Some looked like slam dunks, some didn't and worked out.  None of us know how the next coach at Marquette will work out but we hope for the best.  Except you.  The first time the new coach loses, you'll complain immediately because that's what you do.