DIENER!!!!!!!

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Whatever it takes to make you feel better Fluffy.  Your "facts" aren't relevant.  Oddly, New York was on fire with COVID when you had the indoor gatherings on packed subways. Herd immunity taking hold in New York.  Why do you feel there was outrage when Florida opened its beaches?  Or California for that matter?  Do we really know it only spreads through indoor gatherings?  Back in March Faucci didn't think masks helped.  The "elixir" to fix COVID spread has changed almost weekly.

#triggered

You calling others clueless is about as comical as it gets.  BTW, should DJO get a cut of the TBT winnings, or do you still #demand #nojusticnopeace that we teach him a lesson and not compensate him due to exercising his free will/agent rights to play for an alternative team last year?

#resist

Elon didnt u know fluffy, like the NYT, knows everything and if u dont agree with hisfacts/opinion then u are an idiot.

[wadesworld]

Elon didnt u know fluffy, like the NYT, knows everything and if u dont agree with hisfacts/opinion then u are an idiot.

Oh the irony.  On a number of levels.

[Hards Alumni]

Oh the irony.  On a number of levels.

Birds of a feather, if you will.

[Pakuni]

Yeah as I said, your takes on real life make your John Magic Dawson takes look normal.

FTFY

[Lennys Tap]

The bolded isn't true.  It has largely been spread by indoor gatherings.  I mean, look at New York, which has actually seen a decrease in daily counts since the protests.

Fluffy,

Honest question - How have Houston, Miami, Los Angeles, Atlanta, etc., fared since the protests?

[Hards Alumni]

Fluffy,

Honest question - How have Houston, Miami, Los Angeles, Atlanta, etc., fared since the protests?

Much worse than Chicago, New York, Minneapolis, Seattle, etc. 

You're much smarter than this.

[Lennys Tap]

Much worse than Chicago, New York, Minneapolis, Seattle, etc. 

You're much smarter than this.

Chicago, New York, Minneapolis and Seattle had already peaked.

Certainly you're smart enough to know this.

[Pakuni]

Fluffy,

Honest question - How have Houston, Miami, Los Angeles, Atlanta, etc., fared since the protests?

Facts matter.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/

[Elonsmusk]

Elon didnt u know fluffy, like the NYT, knows everything and if u dont agree with hisfacts/opinion then u are an idiot.

It's helpful to just recognize Fluffy, Wades/BLM, Hards, Pakuni, for what they are: Sheep.  They herd together, seeking strength in numbers, due to lacking emotional fortitude, and critical thinking skills of their own. As a result, like sheep, they are followers - easily influenced by the opinions they hear from blowhard "journalists" at Wash Post, NYT, CNN, MSNBC, et al. Anytime someone disrupts their fragile psyches, they get #triggered and need to #resist.   

Birds of a feather, if you will.

[Lennys Tap]

Much worse than Chicago, New York, Minneapolis, Seattle, etc. 

You're much smarter than this.

NM

[Elonsmusk]

Facts matter.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/

The study's lead author, Dhaval Dave of Bentley University, said, "In many cities, the protests actually seemed to lead to a net increase in social distancing, as more people who did not protest decided to stay off the streets."


See a problem there?  This guy essentially says social distancing increased in cities of protesting, and is correlating that with declines.  Yet the protests were concentrated centers of ZERO social distancing, the likes of which we've not seen since February at sporting events.

Further it is asinine to use positive test percentages as a benchmark.  I know for a fact that Doctors in Minnesota were specifically instructed to NOT test anyone under the age of 60 through Mid-May, even if symptomatic - as there was a mandate to preserve the number of COVID tests - rationed for those most at risk.

Percentages always go down when your denominator increases (exponentially in this case).

[Pakuni]

The study's lead author, Dhaval Dave of Bentley University, said, "In many cities, the protests actually seemed to lead to a net increase in social distancing, as more people who did not protest decided to stay off the streets."


See a problem there?  This guy essentially says social distancing increased in cities of protesting, and is correlating that with declines.  Yet the protests were concentrated centers of ZERO social distancing, the likes of which we've not seen since February at sporting events.

Further it is asinine to use positive test percentages as a benchmark.  I know for a fact that Doctors in Minnesota were specifically instructed to NOT test anyone under the age of 60 through Mid-May, even if symptomatic - as there was a mandate to preserve the number of COVID tests - rationed for those most at risk.

Percentages always go down when your denominator increases (exponentially in this case).

Oh, never mind.  Not worth it 

[Newsdreams]

 
Oh, never mind.  Not worth it

Remember, he dunked in high school!

[#UnleashSean]

How has this not been locked. Dumbies from both ends of the spectrum...

[Hards Alumni]

Chicago, New York, Minneapolis and Seattle had already peaked.

Certainly you're smart enough to know this.

lol what?  You were implying that the cities you named had rising case levels due to protests.  Protests happened in many cities where there wasn't a spike of cases.

So... correlation doesn't equal causation.

[Hards Alumni]

It's helpful to just recognize Fluffy, Wades/BLM, Hards, Pakuni, for what they are: Sheep.  They herd together, seeking strength in numbers, due to lacking emotional fortitude, and critical thinking skills of their own. As a result, like sheep, they are followers - easily influenced by the opinions they hear from blowhard "journalists" at Wash Post, NYT, CNN, MSNBC, et al. Anytime someone disrupts their fragile psyches, they get #triggered and need to #resist.   

Birds of a feather, if you will.

The most disturbing part of all of this is you take yourself seriously.  Some serious Dunning-Krueger going on with Ners.

[Lennys Tap]

lol what?  You were implying that the cities you named had rising case levels due to protests.  Protests happened in many cities where there wasn't a spike of cases.

So... correlation doesn't equal causation.

Actually if you'll reread I was asking a question.

And of course correlation and causation don't always go hand in hand.

But to say that the fact that a city that had already been overwhelmed (New York) didn't see the same spike due to dangerous gatherings that a city on the back end of the curve (Houston) did "proves" something is ridiculous.

[Hards Alumni]

Actually if you'll reread I was asking a question.

And of course correlation and causation don't always go hand in hand.

But to say that the fact that a city that had already been overwhelmed (New York) didn't see the same spike due to dangerous gatherings that a city on the back end of the curve (Houston) did "proves" something is ridiculous.

Yeah, it proves that protests didn't lead to higher rates of Covid.  Houston and the other cities you listed opened back up earlier than other places.  As a result, they have more cases. 

[Badgerhater]

So I thought this thread was about Travis Diener.....guess not.

[Uncle Rico]

So I thought this tread was about Travis Diener.....guess not.

Travis Diener rules, even if he didn't dunk in high school

[Pakuni]

Actually if you'll reread I was asking a question.

And of course correlation and causation don't always go hand in hand.

But to say that the fact that a city that had already been overwhelmed (New York) didn't see the same spike due to dangerous gatherings that a city on the back end of the curve (Houston) did "proves" something is ridiculous.

Lenny ... remember when you scolded those who ignore science and data because it doesn't fit with their political narrative?
That's what you're doing here.

The common denominator between the places seeing surges in recent weeks isn't protests. It's that they reopened too soon.

[The Sultan]

Actually if you'll reread I was asking a question.

And of course correlation and causation don't always go hand in hand.

But to say that the fact that a city that had already been overwhelmed (New York) didn't see the same spike due to dangerous gatherings that a city on the back end of the curve (Houston) did "proves" something is ridiculous.

No city has really peaked.  Certain cities have simply done a better job of locking down, which by and large is limiting the number of people who crowd into an indoor space.  If New York does what Houston did this fall, it will bounce right back. 

Lenny ... remember when you scolded those who ignore science and data because it doesn't fit with their political narrative?
That's what you're doing here.

The common denominator between the places seeing surges in recent weeks isn't protests. It's that they reopened too soon.

Yep.  I expect irrationality from Elon and Sand-Knit.  Not from Lennys.