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Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 17, 2019, 07:47:27 AM

The problem isn't just the "hideous actions of a small percentage of priests," it's how the nstitution systematically covered it up.  And how that cover up has lead people to distrust the Church and completely overshaddow the genuine good it has done.

So in many ways this is a perfect analogy to the NCAA.  An institution that can't get out of its own way and overvalues its process and rules.

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Quote from: MU82 on September 17, 2019, 08:23:47 AM
This. Exactly.

Absurd.  Patently absurd.  There is nothing even remotely comparable. 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: forgetful on September 17, 2019, 09:23:38 AM
It's still a terrible analogy. The two are not similar in significant respects.

There was a statement that the NCAA's purpose is to enrich its members. That is false. It is an opinion of some people, but it is not a statement of fact.

Similarly the Catholic Church analogy is horrendous. The NCAA isn't covering anything up. They may do a piss poor job of investigation/enforcement, but that is more because they have little to no actual legal recourse.

Several on here are going to absurd arguments because of an implicit bias against the NCAA. It's fine to hate the NCAA, but no one is helping their stance when they make absurd claims.

100% in agreement
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 17, 2019, 09:30:00 AM

So how can it be false if it's an opinion?  There is no certain truth that it's primary purpose isn't to enrich its members.  (And yes the Catholic Church analogy is very much a stretch - one that White Trash and Cheeks brought up to actually defend in the NCAA.  Which is someone laughtable.)

Excuse me......I didn't bring it up....I responded to someone who did to show how people here continue to paint with a massive broad brush.

That didn't stop others from saying ncaa = Catholic Church

Patently absurd comparison.   Just as the Walmart example is tremendously weak. 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

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