[Cracked Sidewalks] Let's Save the Season

[Galway Eagle]

Yeah, we didnt do what was needed back about 10 years ago with H1N1 virus when 60 million cases were detected, and there was no lockdown. In fact, they quit testing for it.

We didn't lock down during the Black Plague either and that's about as relevant as your post.

[The Sultan]

Yeah, we didnt do what was needed back about 10 years ago with H1N1 virus when 60 million cases were detected, and there was no lockdown. In fact, they quit testing for it.

I'm shocked that willie is "just a flu" guy.

[willie warrior]

What does that have to do with Covid-19?

Similar virus strains. What an uninformed question.

[Uncle Rico]

Similar virus strains. What an uninformed question.

And?  They're not the same thing.  They're much different.  It's like saying a Mazos Burger is the same as a Kopp's Burger.  One is good, the other isn't

[Billy Hoyle]

Yeah, we didnt do what was needed back about 10 years ago with H1N1 virus when 60 million cases were detected, and there was no lockdown. In fact, they quit testing for it.

I'm no doctor, and I haven't stayed at Holiday Inn Express lately, but there just seems to be something different about H1N1 and COVID-19 when I read about them them from actual scientific sources.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-h1n1-flu-covid-pandemics-response.html

In perhaps the most important difference between the two pandemics of the 21st century, H1N1 illnesses responded well to anti-viral drugs already used to treat the flu. People in close contact with someone who caught H1N1 were commonly given the drugs as a precaution, limiting its spread. In 2009, Missouri had a stockpile of 600,000 doses of such drugs and received another 200,000 from the federal government. There is no approved treatment for COVID-19.

The first outbreak of H1N1 was reported in April 2009 in Mexico, and the disease soon spread across the U.S. border. The first person to die of H1N1 flu in the area, that May, was a 44-year-old man from St. Louis County who had traveled to Mexico.

By June, H1N1 had sickened about 21,500 Americans and caused 87 deaths across the country. Dozens of summer camps were closed because of outbreaks, including at Lake of the Ozarks and Potosi.

By April 2010, one year after the first cases, the CDC estimated that about 61 million Americans caught the H1N1 flu and 12,500 died. It is now considered one of the less severe pandemics in history, with a death rate of 0.001% to 0.007%.

Johns Hopkins University researchers project the U.S. death rate for the coronavirus at about 1.2%. If a projected 40% of the population is sickened, that would mean more than 1.5 million deaths without any suppression measures.

[Newsdreams]

I'm no doctor, and I haven't stayed at Holiday Inn Express lately, but there just seems to be something different about H1N1 and COVID-19 when I read about them them from actual scientific sources.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-h1n1-flu-covid-pandemics-response.html

In perhaps the most important difference between the two pandemics of the 21st century, H1N1 illnesses responded well to anti-viral drugs already used to treat the flu. People in close contact with someone who caught H1N1 were commonly given the drugs as a precaution, limiting its spread. In 2009, Missouri had a stockpile of 600,000 doses of such drugs and received another 200,000 from the federal government. There is no approved treatment for COVID-19.

The first outbreak of H1N1 was reported in April 2009 in Mexico, and the disease soon spread across the U.S. border. The first person to die of H1N1 flu in the area, that May, was a 44-year-old man from St. Louis County who had traveled to Mexico.

By June, H1N1 had sickened about 21,500 Americans and caused 87 deaths across the country. Dozens of summer camps were closed because of outbreaks, including at Lake of the Ozarks and Potosi.

By April 2010, one year after the first cases, the CDC estimated that about 61 million Americans caught the H1N1 flu and 12,500 died. It is now considered one of the less severe pandemics in history, with a death rate of 0.001% to 0.007%.

Johns Hopkins University researchers project the U.S. death rate for the coronavirus at about 1.2%. If a projected 40% of the population is sickened, that would mean more than 1.5 million deaths without any suppression measures.

So what is a million here or there, right?

[tower912]

So when COVID deniers say 'it's just the flu", they mean the Spanish Flu.   

[warriorjoe]

"The Spanish Flu swept through Marquette in October of 1918. Eight died and 150 were sickened on campus...While Marquette now had big plans for a new gym, it did not have a basketball schedule for the upcoming 1918-19  season. While Coach Ryan and the university awaited word on a schedule, he and the Tribune once again pleaded for men to try out for the team. In one of its editorials, the newspaper resorted to calling those who did not try out for the team as "slackers." No matter that many of these students were the same men who committed themselves for the war effort. Hardly slackers.

"With so many students committed to the S.A.T.C., the numbers of those who would try out for the young basketball program's third season were greatly reduced....

"A month later, as 1918 slipped into 1919, it was apparent that no games were going to be scheduled for that season. The Marquette Tribune then set its sights on the athletic board in a critical January 16, 1919, editorial, puzzled as to why the university higher ups had not put together a schedule. It was not clear as to whether the university was having difficulty finding other schools to play or whether those teams chose not to play the season, or if World War I were to blame.

"Certain authorities seem to be lax in the proposition of arranging games until it has to come to such a stage that it is very doubtful whether any contests will be held or not. Where the trouble lies we do not know....

"Basketball went dark at Marquette in 1918-19 for the first time. It would be the only time in school history that a season was canceled." Marquette did not play a game in the 1919-20 season until January of 1920.

The above was excerpted from the Introduction to the Centennial Edition of "You Can Call Me Al: The Colorful Journey of College Basketball's Original Flower Child, Al McGuire."

It will be interesting to see if another college basketball season goes dark on campus.

Go Warriors!

[Galway Eagle]

"The Spanish Flu swept through the Marquette in October of 1918. Eight died and 150 were sickened on campus...While Marquette now had big plans for a new gym, it did not have a basketball schedule for the upcoming 1918-19  season. While Coach Ryan and the university awaited word on a schedule, he and the Tribune once again pleaded for men to try out for the team. In one of its editorials, the newspaper resorted to calling those who did not try out for the team as "slackers." No matter than many of these students were the same men who committed themselves for the war effort. Hardly slackers.

"With so many students committed to the S.A.T.C., the numbers of those who would try out for the young basketball program's third season were greatly reduced....

"A month later, as 1918 slipped into 1919, it was apparent that no games were going to be scheduled for that season. The Marquette Tribune then set its sights on the athletic board in a critical January 16, 1919, editorial, puzzled as to why the university higher ups had not put together a schedule. It was not clear as to whether the university was having difficulty finding other schools to play or whether those teams chose not to play the season, or if World War I were to blame.

"Certain authorities seem to be lax in the proposition of arranging games until it has to come to such a stage that it is very doubtful whether any contests will be held or not. Where the trouble lies we do not know....

"Basketball went dark at Marquette in 1918-19 for the first time. It would be the only time in school history that a season was canceled." Marquette did not play a game in the 1919-20 season until January of 1920.

The above was excerpted from the Introduction to the Centennial Edition of "You Can Call Me Al: The Colorful Journey of College Basketball's Original Flower Child, Al McGuire."

It will be interesting to see if another college basketball season goes dark on campus.

Go Warriors!

Wow great find

[Nukem2]

Wow great find

Actually,  warrior joe is the author of that book.

[Galway Eagle]

Actually,  warrior joe is the author of that book.

Well then, great work WarriorJoe

[warriorjoe]

You are welcome, fellas.

During my research of digitized versions of the Marquette Tribune, Milwaukee Sentinel, Milwaukee Journal and other local dailies, there was very little on whether Midwest colleges and other schools canceled seasons based on how the flu affected various campuses.

It seems that between the flu, the MU students coming back from serving in World War I and those enrolled in the S.A.T.C.,
that there just were not enough players for schools like Marquette to have a season.

We will see how the schools handle this particular flu.

I don't think any of us ever imagined something like this happening again.

Keep the faith, and stay well.

Go Warriors!

[Newsdreams]

Just putting this here:
UConn cancelled football season. I think they should do it permanently 

[McCormick Survivor]

353 Total NCAA Division 1 Basketball Teams. No regular season, just one national tourney over the entire month of March. It'd be eight/nine rounds.  Everyone is in, final elimination.

[Silkk the Shaka]

353 Total NCAA Division 1 Basketball Teams. No regular season, just one national tourney over the entire month of March. It'd be eight/nine rounds.  Everyone is in, final elimination.

Hell yeah!

[The Sultan]

353 Total NCAA Division 1 Basketball Teams. No regular season, just one national tourney over the entire month of March. It'd be eight/nine rounds.  Everyone is in, final elimination.

You could have 4 or 5 teams at 64 campus sites in the "preliminary" rounds. 

[Newsdreams]

353 Total NCAA Division 1 Basketball Teams. No regular season, just one national tourney over the entire month of March. It'd be eight/nine rounds.  Everyone is in, final elimination.

A total and complete 💯 crapshoot 

[Galway Eagle]

353 Total NCAA Division 1 Basketball Teams. No regular season, just one national tourney over the entire month of March. It'd be eight/nine rounds.  Everyone is in, final elimination.

Zero seeding. Just names drawn out of a hat. Except UNC/Duke and Louisville/Kentucky are definitely first round games

[VegasWarrior77]

Say what?

College basketball set to return to T-Mobile Arena in November with fans
https://www.ktnv.com/sports/college-basketball-set-to-return-to-t-mobile-arena-in-november-with-fans

[GooooMarquette]

Say what?

College basketball set to return to T-Mobile Arena in November with fans
https://www.ktnv.com/sports/college-basketball-set-to-return-to-t-mobile-arena-in-november-with-fans

Wasn't that set a long time ago, like all the other early season tournaments?

Maybe the organizer and arena are just being optimistic by selling tickets....

[brewcity77]

The Athletic released their plan to save non-con play. Similar to the MTE pod system I proposed, but done regionally so travel costs are kept down.

https://theathletic.com/1980558/2020/08/10/college-basketball-nonconference-schedule-national-covid-19-coronavirus/?source=user_shared_article

Here's the proposed Marquette pod:

Site: Milwaukee
Arena: Fiserv Forum or Panther Arena
Teams: Bradley, Green Bay, Illinois State, Indiana State, Marquette, Milwaukee, Northwestern, Wisconsin

Quick take: We might get objections to playing on the home floors for Marquette or Milwaukee. Well, the NHL hasn't collapsed by holding playoffs in Edmonton and Toronto. Plus, zero fans should mitigate the concern. If not, shift the pod to Green Bay, which is neutral ground in every sense for almost everyone. Either way, the Marquette-Wisconsin rivalry is intact and Northwestern gets a power-league foe in the Golden Eagles. Yes, the Wildcats must trek north to make the pods work overall. But an hour's drive is basically the same as trying to get to downtown Chicago in rush hour, and they're sequestered in a hotel anyway, no matter where they are.

[zcg2013]

https://247sports.com/Article/March-Madness-2021-NCAA-basketball-executive-COVID-19-150205641/

Quite the statement from Gavitt.

[brewcity77]

https://247sports.com/Article/March-Madness-2021-NCAA-basketball-executive-COVID-19-150205641/

Quite the statement from Gavitt.

It's a matter of survival. Without the tournament, college sports as we know it will end. Vast numbers of non-revenue sports will go away and even the revenue sports will be significantly changed.

[The Sultan]

https://247sports.com/Article/March-Madness-2021-NCAA-basketball-executive-COVID-19-150205641/

Quite the statement from Gavitt.

It would be nice if some of these pie-in-the-sky statements could include some details that give me reassurance.