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hawk

need some help with the problem of creating something from nothing.  If God exists clearly the created universe didn't come from nothing it came from Him.  IF God is eternal, infinite, incorporeal and transcendent  the universe is "in" Him.  If there is no God, how can the universe bootstrap itself into existence?  If virtual particles appear in a quantum field they didn't appear from nothing, they appeared from the quantum field.  where do self causing quantum fields come from?

Pakuni


NCMUFan

Too deep for me.
From dust we came and to dust we return.

MU82

Al is God. He sees all, knows all, wins all. And occasionally, he punches all in the face.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Quote from: hawk on April 05, 2022, 02:29:27 PM
need some help with the problem of creating something from nothing.  If God exists clearly the created universe didn't come from nothing it came from Him.  IF God is eternal, infinite, incorporeal and transcendent  the universe is "in" Him.  If there is no God, how can the universe bootstrap itself into existence?  If virtual particles appear in a quantum field they didn't appear from nothing, they appeared from the quantum field.  where do self causing quantum fields come from?

Dr. Pepper
Guster is for Lovers

Hards Alumni


lawdog77

Quote from: hawk on April 05, 2022, 02:29:27 PM
need some help with the problem of creating something from nothing.  If God exists clearly the created universe didn't come from nothing it came from Him.  IF God is eternal, infinite, incorporeal and transcendent  the universe is "in" Him.  If there is no God, how can the universe bootstrap itself into existence?  If virtual particles appear in a quantum field they didn't appear from nothing, they appeared from the quantum field.  where do self causing quantum fields come from?
https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/ask-ethan-how-would-you-explain-the-big-bang-to-a-child-7015dd817757

hawk

Aristotle realized that there had to be a beginning of any series of events outside the events themselves.  If you want to roll with the big bang theory you need to account for that which preceded it.if nothing we know of in the universe has as its nature to exist, the question remains what existed before the big bang to start with?  Aristotle denied the possibility of infinite regress.

MU82

Aristotle wasn't smart enough to get into UW-Madison.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

I mean, if there has to be "a beginning of any series of events outside the events themselves," how does God exist?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU Fan in Connecticut

You may want to pitch Ughs instead.

Pakuni

Quote from: MU82 on April 05, 2022, 03:54:53 PM
Aristotle wasn't smart enough to get into UW-Madison.

He wanted to go to UW, but Bo cooled on him.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: NCMUFan on April 05, 2022, 02:32:15 PM
Too deep for me.
From dust we came and to dust we return.

Let's keep Arby's out of this.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on April 05, 2022, 03:54:53 PM
Aristotle wasn't smart enough to get into UW-Madison.

He didn't want to redshirt
Guster is for Lovers

rocky_warrior


Jockey

I blame Rico.

An alternate identity just to mess with our heads. I need a gummy so I can get into some deeper thinking.

MU82

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 05, 2022, 04:22:35 PM
I'm confused, I thought we answered this 7 months ago. 
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=62155.0

That left many unanswered questions, such as ...

Was the Big Bang merely the product of post-Arby's gastric distress?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

#UnleashSean

If there is a god, then it is cruel god. Who else would forsake an entire people to 7 years of Wojo.

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