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Juan Anderson's Mixtape

If DeRozan remains healthy, the odds of him picking up the option is approximately 0%.

So 2 years of DeRozan for 1 year of Kawhi.  If things work out, they re-sign Kawhi and Green.  They compete with Boston and perhaps Philly for Eastern Conference supremacy.

If it doesn't work out, they pivot to a rebuild.  I give Toronto credit for going for it.

Nice haul for the Spurs.  They get an All Star to stay in the playoff hunt, a nice young big man, and a 1st round pick.  Kudos to them for maximizing their return and not selling at a discount.

Galway Eagle

Kawhi's camp leaking that he has no desire to head to Toronto. I used to like him starting to think he's a diva
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Pakuni

The only way to look at this positively from Toronto's standpoint is that they're eager to move on from DeRozan and this works out as a nice salary dump for them.
The "going for it" thing? Eh. This doesn't get them past Boston or maybe even Philly in the East, IMO, and that's assuming Leonard shows up healthy and willing to play hard.


forgetful

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 18, 2018, 09:08:12 PM
Porter to undergo another back surgery.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-michael-porter-jr-underwent-another-back-surgery-224112730.html

Any docs on here understand what a "breakthrough grasps of a herniated disc" means.  Never heard that phrase before and the interwebs have nothing.

Regardless, a second back surgery at this age is not a good sign.  Even if he gets back to 100%, I'd envision his career to be a very short one.

jesmu84

Quote from: forgetful on July 18, 2018, 09:37:53 PM
Any docs on here understand what a "breakthrough grasps of a herniated disc" means.  Never heard that phrase before and the interwebs have nothing.

Regardless, a second back surgery at this age is not a good sign.  Even if he gets back to 100%, I'd envision his career to be a very short one.

I'm a PA who works exclusively in spine surgery. I don't even understand what that is supposed to mean.

Makes you wonder about our own MU player with back surgery. Though I don't recall it was ever stated what type he had.


4everwarriors

Quote from: forgetful on July 18, 2018, 09:37:53 PM
Any docs on here understand what a "breakthrough grasps of a herniated disc" means.  Never heard that phrase before and the interwebs have nothing.

Regardless, a second back surgery at this age is not a good sign.  Even if he gets back to 100%, I'd envision his career to be a very short one.



Eye'll translate four y'all. He bee fooked. Gettin' closer ta fusion, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

JWags85

Quote from: BagpipingHurler on July 18, 2018, 11:04:17 AM
Kawhi's camp leaking that he has no desire to head to Toronto. I used to like him starting to think he's a diva

I think it feels more likely that he's just a temperamental weirdo. All that humble, drives an old Tahoe thing is great, but he still doesn't want to leave his comfort zone. In some ways, it's almost worse, cause you can expect it from a diva. He's just the quiet kid sitting in the corner who doesn't want to participate and only likes PB&J.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: JWags85 on July 19, 2018, 11:00:10 AM
I think it feels more likely that he's just a temperamental weirdo. All that humble, drives an old Tahoe thing is great, but he still doesn't want to leave his comfort zone. In some ways, it's almost worse, cause you can expect it from a diva. He's just the quiet kid sitting in the corner who doesn't want to participate and only likes PB&J.

Perfect metaphor
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: JWags85 on July 19, 2018, 11:00:10 AM
I think it feels more likely that he's just a temperamental weirdo. All that humble, drives an old Tahoe thing is great, but he still doesn't want to leave his comfort zone. In some ways, it's almost worse, cause you can expect it from a diva. He's just the quiet kid sitting in the corner who doesn't want to participate and only likes PB&J.

Well stated.

As stories continue to come out, it also sounds more and more like his "handlers" are completely inept.

Litehouse

I just assumed Leonard had no desire to go anyplace but the Lakers, and he'll take less money next year to go there.

Jockey

Jabari after signing his new contract: "They don't pay players to play defense."

Glad he ain't a Buck any more. He didn't play a lick of defense in three years and obviously has no plans to start anytime soon. If he scores less than 30 a game, he is a liability on the floor. One guy refusing to play 'D' bleeds over into the other guys on the floor.

I guess that is what GarPax wants.

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: Jockey on July 19, 2018, 02:43:41 PM
Jabari after signing his new contract: "They don't pay players to play defense."

Glad he ain't a Buck any more. He didn't play a lick of defense in three years and obviously has no plans to start anytime soon. If he scores less than 30 a game, he is a liability on the floor. One guy refusing to play 'D' bleeds over into the other guys on the floor.

I guess that is what GarPax wants.

I was surprised how candid Jabari was, he full quote I read: that "I just stick to my strengths. Look at everybody in the league. They don't pay players to play defense. There's only two people historically that play defense. I'm not going to say I won't, but to say that's a weakness is like saying that's everybody's weakness. Because I've scored 30 and 20 on a lot of guys that say they play defense."

MU82

Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on July 19, 2018, 03:42:14 PM
There's only two people historically that play defense.

Huh?

Sounds like a dope to me.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MUBurrow

Quote from: MU82 on July 19, 2018, 09:45:07 PM
Huh?

Sounds like a dope to me.

I think he's just a pretty bitter guy right now. He's only 23 and has had a ton of adversity from the time he was 19. Hopefully he catches a couple of breaks and the change of scenery helps refresh him, because by all accounts he's a really good dude.

Pakuni

It's a dumb thing for Parker to say publicly - especially in the meathead capitol of America - but he's not entirely wrong.
A guy who scores but plays no D ... say James Harden .... will always be paid way better than an elite defender who lacks offensively, a la Marcus Smart.

GGGG

Quote from: Pakuni on July 20, 2018, 12:35:41 PM
It's a dumb thing for Parker to say publicly - especially in the meathead capitol of America - but he's not entirely wrong.
A guy who scores but plays no D ... say James Harden .... will always be paid way better than an elite defender who lacks offensively, a la Marcus Smart.


But that's not really all that he said. 

He also said "...but to say that's a weakness is like saying that's everybody's weakness."  Not everyone is as bad as Jabari is on defense.

JWags85

Quote from: MUBurrow on July 20, 2018, 11:04:39 AM
I think he's just a pretty bitter guy right now. He's only 23 and has had a ton of adversity from the time he was 19. Hopefully he catches a couple of breaks and the change of scenery helps refresh him, because by all accounts he's a really good dude.

I'm just disappointed he won't finish that modern commercial-to-house renovation he was starting on Brewers Hill

MU82

Quote from: MUBurrow on July 20, 2018, 11:04:39 AM
I think he's just a pretty bitter guy right now. He's only 23 and has had a ton of adversity from the time he was 19. Hopefully he catches a couple of breaks and the change of scenery helps refresh him, because by all accounts he's a really good dude.

Can see why he'd be bitter.

When I was 23, I only had about $40 million, too.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: MUBurrow on July 20, 2018, 11:04:39 AM
I think he's just a pretty bitter guy right now. He's only 23 and has had a ton of adversity from the time he was 19. Hopefully he catches a couple of breaks and the change of scenery helps refresh him, because by all accounts he's a really good dude.


Make that a good dude who will play zero defense. When he breaks down on 'D', the entire team defense breaks down. Good riddance.

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