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Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 13, 2017, 11:05:40 AM
I think that is true for an advanced degree which is lumped in that statistic. I am sure the difference between those without a BS/BA and those with is probably not as great. I know some diesel mechanics, plumbers, and HVACs  who are making really good money and people with BA s who are making a lot less than those folks. Don't get me wrong, a college education is important, just make sure it makes you marketable when you start your working career.


Well sure if you're going to compare low end BA jobs with high end non-BA jobs, you can make the stats say what you want them to.

But the fact is that the averages say that most people make up the marginal cost of their student loans within a year or two.

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Quote from: Eldon on September 13, 2017, 10:30:19 AM
Dude, what?  No

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges

Some schools switched categories, e.g., Nova, but not all schools.

yes ... the switched out a bunch of schools to the national university category which pushed down MU several spots in 2015.  My bad for suggesting that the entire category was eliminated, it was not, it only had several highly rated members moved.

Question - West Point and the Naval Academy are still in the national liberal arts category.  I think they should be in the national university category.  If/when they move, I think they are both top 20, if not top 10 Universities.

Thoughts?

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Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on September 13, 2017, 02:06:14 PM
...My bad for suggesting that the entire category was eliminated, it was not, it only had several highly rated members moved...

"Suggesting."  lol

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Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on September 13, 2017, 02:06:14 PM
yes ... the switched out a bunch of schools to the national university category which pushed down MU several spots in 2015.  My bad for suggesting that the entire category was eliminated, it was not, it only had several highly rated members moved.

Question - West Point and the Naval Academy are still in the national liberal arts category.  I think they should be in the national university category.  If/when they move, I think they are both top 20, if not top 10 Universities.

Thoughts?

To be sure, the classification is neither arbitrary nor does it belong to USWNR.  It's an official classification from the Carnegie Foundation

The classifications are based on data, not "eyeballing it."  Thus, West Point and Navy are liberal arts colleges because they meet the official criteria, e.g., the majority of their majors are in a liberal arts field, they have very few graduate/professional programs, etc.

Tha Hound

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on September 13, 2017, 02:06:14 PM
yes ... the switched out a bunch of schools to the national university category which pushed down MU several spots in 2015.  My bad for suggesting that the entire category was eliminated, it was not, it only had several highly rated members moved.

Question - West Point and the Naval Academy are still in the national liberal arts category.  I think they should be in the national university category.  If/when they move, I think they are both top 20, if not top 10 Universities.

Thoughts?

Well seen as how neither of them are even in the top 10 of the national liberal arts category....no

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