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Would you take Buzz or Crean back?

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Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on December 19, 2016, 08:48:13 AM
I'm not sure it was a "loophole," but there was an NCAA clearinghouse issue of some sort.  Usually that means the NCAA didn't think one of his classes met the qualifications for the 16 core course requirement.  I think he spent a year at a prep school before going Juco so maybe that was part of the problem?

Anyways, Jae was more of an issue because he had no chance to graduate in two years.  Many two year Jucos have that issue.  (Dwight Buycks I believe has finally done so.)  DJO and JFB both graduated.

Out of curiousity if Jae had redshirted his first year here would that have still been an issue? could the NCAA close that loophole with a mandatory red shirt?
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Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on December 19, 2016, 08:48:13 AM
Anyways, Jae was more of an issue because he had no chance to graduate in two years.  Many two year Jucos have that issue.  (Dwight Buycks I believe has finally done so.)  DJO and JFB both graduated.

Is this a NCAA rule or a Marquette preference (must have a 'chance' to graduate in the number of years left in eligibility). 

Additionally does anyone know if this applied to grad transfers as well?  Do they also have to be able to complete their grad degree in the one year of basketball eligibility?

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Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 19, 2016, 08:50:32 AM
Out of curiousity if Jae had redshirted his first year here would that have still been an issue? could the NCAA close that loophole with a mandatory red shirt?


Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 19, 2016, 08:55:29 AM
Is this a NCAA rule or a Marquette preference (must have a 'chance' to graduate in the number of years left in eligibility). 



Marquette preference.  It is an issue that is particularly difficult for MU.  As I have been told, many Jucos major in Phy Ed.  Since MU doesn't offer that major, it is difficult to get credits to transfer.  In three years, a player can largely make it up.  In two years it is very hard.

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Crean = I've done all I can at MU.  MU is holding me back.  Therefore, I don't want him back.  He saw limits and set limits on himself. Very inconsistent recruiter.

Buzz= Great coach. Again, great coach.   Good recruiter for what he wanted, knew the type of player he wanted.. athletic, work hard, basketball skills secondary concern.   But, a guy that doesn't get that the basketball team is part of a University... not an entity unto itself.  A guy that is a nightmare to work with and keeps everyone dancing and guessing.  Not a fit for MU. Too bad, but just the way it is. Needed a better balance and understanding that the team is part of a University with academic standards.  His last teams with an inability to shoot were the most difficult teams to watch I've seen at MU.  Even during darker times, at least we had some skilled players (e.g. Tony Smith, Trevor Powell, etc).

The current team has height and defensive limitations, but shows us where Wojo gernally wants to go... up tempo, shooters...ball players... skilled.  We'll have a good idea of where this team is at on January 14th after the first 5 or so BE games.   

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Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 19, 2016, 08:40:11 AM
What DJO loophole was there?

He became eligible sooner than the big boys were expecting, but Buzz seemed to know it was coming and swooped in and signed him before anyone else really had a chance.    IIRC.
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