Problem wasn't height...

[GooooMarquette]

Well.....The New Year is coming up...it would be a hell of a tough resolution to make...to go Derrick free for 2015 - especially if his minutes and Big East play mirror that of last year.  Hopefully he improves and perform solidly to where it isn't so challenging for me personally to accept the fact that he's our "best option."

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.

[brandx]

Well.....The New Year is coming up...it would be a hell of a tough resolution to make...to go Derrick free for 2015 - especially if his minutes and Big East play mirror that of last year.  Hopefully he improves and perform solidly to where it isn't so challenging for me personally to accept the fact that he's our "best option."

Don't do it for you. Do it for us.

[NersEllenson]

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.

Well done Gooo....fine advice.  And applicable. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.

One of my favorite prayers of all time. And fits perfectly into this situation

[keefe]

...when it comes to basketball decisions on this team, I trust Wojo's opinion more than anyone on this site, myself included.

well, that's f ucking generous

face it - your basketball expertise is pretty nil

[Class71]

I figured as much.  Hard to dispute the questions I asked.  Though I know you thought I was crazy last year at the beginning of the season when I said we'd have a rough year if Buzz didn't make a change.  And of course, you offered up:  Buzz's teams have always gotten better as the year goes on.  Sadly, last year, of course it didn't.  We missed the NIT.  With more returning experience than ever before on a Buzz team.  

With deep regret you are now on ignore. It is not what you say, it is the obession with the subject which apparently is beyond your control. Good luck.

[brewcity77]

Speaking for myself, I love Marquette basketball and I don't really know where you get off questioning my love of the team. Who the hell are you? What I don't love is watching is a PG who should be playing 5 minutes a game, well at least if the team had any aspirations of being a tourney team. Based on what I have seen this year, I am conceding that we will finish around .500 and not be playing in the tourney. I can't wait til next year and the future is looking bright.

I did not question your love of the team. I asked if watching this team was enjoyable. If all you have to say about this team is how much Derrick sucks it seems like you must not be enjoying watching the games.

I'm not saying that really is all you post about, but it certainly feels that way. I'm also not saying you don't cheer for this team, but it certainly feels like your hatred of Derrick takes priority.

This season is not one in which we'll be competing for any titles. That said, the coach's job is still to win and to grow this team. Clearly, Derrick will be part of it this year. Unless you're one of those people who isn't happy unless they are complaining, it sure seems like accepting Derrick in his role would make the process more enjoyable.

[MU82]

I did not question your love of the team. I asked if watching this team was enjoyable. If all you have to say about this team is how much Derrick sucks it seems like you must not be enjoying watching the games.

I'm not saying that really is all you post about, but it certainly feels that way. I'm also not saying you don't cheer for this team, but it certainly feels like your hatred of Derrick takes priority.

This season is not one in which we'll be competing for any titles. That said, the coach's job is still to win and to grow this team. Clearly, Derrick will be part of it this year. Unless you're one of those people who isn't happy unless they are complaining, it sure seems like accepting Derrick in his role would make the process more enjoyable.

There are far too many fans -- I'm not naming names, and it doesn't only apply to our fans -- who seem to get very little joy from their teams. It makes one wonder why they are fans.

[GGGG]

There are far too many fans -- I'm not naming names, and it doesn't only apply to our fans -- who seem to get very little joy from their teams. It makes one wonder why they are fans.

And really...it's just sports. 

[MU82]

Well.....The New Year is coming up...it would be a hell of a tough resolution to make...to go Derrick free for 2015 - especially if his minutes and Big East play mirror that of last year.  Hopefully he improves and perform solidly to where it isn't so challenging for me personally to accept the fact that he's our "best option."

Go for it, Ners!

I'm sure you considered yourself a tough-minded guy during your playing days. Here is a great opportunity to test your toughness, willpower and your determination. You no doubt will be tempted and baited. Let's see if you are mentally strong enough to avoid being drawn in!

You almost seemed to be begging for something like this when you ran a poll about your own continued presence on Scoop. Well, take the challenge: Stay on Scoop, but avoid Derrick talk.

I put myself on "Derrick Moratorium" for more than a month last year and it made my Scoop experience far more enjoyable. (Then I put joyless willie on ignore and it became wonderful!)

You asked what Buzz had to lose by benching Derrick and now you ask similar questions about Wojo. So I'll turn that around and ask you: What do you have to lose, Ners?

You can't possibly be getting any joy out of constantly railing about one subject, and God knows the rest of us aren't getting any joy out of your Derrick 24/7 campaign.

I, for one, think you are tough enough to do it!

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

There are far too many fans -- I'm not naming names, and it doesn't only apply to our fans -- who seem to get very little joy from their teams. It makes one wonder why they are fans.

I'm sure this type of thing goes back a long ways with every fan base. I remember this board when Crean was coaching and there were several posters who seemed to "hate-watch" every game. If MU won, they didn't say anything. If MU lost, they would blast the coach and light up the board. I think they were sort of happy when MU lost. Gave them a chance to tell everybody about how much they hated Crean.

[mu03eng]

Go for it, Ners!

I'm sure you considered yourself a tough-minded guy during your playing days. Here is a great opportunity to test your toughness, willpower and your determination. You no doubt will be tempted and baited. Let's see if you are mentally strong enough to avoid being drawn in!

You almost seemed to be begging for something like this when you ran a poll about your own continued presence on Scoop. Well, take the challenge: Stay on Scoop, but avoid Derrick talk.

I put myself on "Derrick Moratorium" for more than a month last year and it made my Scoop experience far more enjoyable. (Then I put joyless willie on ignore and it became wonderful!)

You asked what Buzz had to lose by benching Derrick and now you ask similar questions about Wojo. So I'll turn that around and ask you: What do you have to lose, Ners?

You can't possibly be getting any joy out of constantly railing about one subject, and God knows the rest of us aren't getting any joy out of your Derrick 24/7 campaign.

I, for one, think you are tough enough to do it!

[Lennys Tap]

I'm sure this type of thing goes back a long ways with every fan base. I remember this board when Crean was coaching and there were several posters who seemed to "hate-watch" every game. If MU won, they didn't say anything. If MU lost, they would blast the coach and light up the board. I think they were sort of happy when MU lost. Gave them a chance to tell everybody about how much they hated Crean.

More recently, Chicos and a few of his sycophants filled the Buzz era with more of the same. Usually passive/aggressive stuff, but every once in a while a "choking dog" moment.

[NersEllenson]

Go for it, Ners!

I'm sure you considered yourself a tough-minded guy during your playing days. Here is a great opportunity to test your toughness, willpower and your determination. You no doubt will be tempted and baited. Let's see if you are mentally strong enough to avoid being drawn in!

You almost seemed to be begging for something like this when you ran a poll about your own continued presence on Scoop. Well, take the challenge: Stay on Scoop, but avoid Derrick talk.

I put myself on "Derrick Moratorium" for more than a month last year and it made my Scoop experience far more enjoyable. (Then I put joyless willie on ignore and it became wonderful!)

You asked what Buzz had to lose by benching Derrick and now you ask similar questions about Wojo. So I'll turn that around and ask you: What do you have to lose, Ners?

You can't possibly be getting any joy out of constantly railing about one subject, and God knows the rest of us aren't getting any joy out of your Derrick 24/7 campaign.

I, for one, think you are tough enough to do it!

Thanks 82.  Appreciate the moral support.  Hardest part is when getting trolled on the topic to avoid it - just as it is for those on the other side of the debate when I make comments on it.  So long as the lipstick on the pig comments (when it truly is a pig of a performance) stop, it certainly makes it easier to avoid commentary.  Best case, Derrick plays solid, respectable ball the rest of the way and shuts me up in so doing - otherwise it will come down to me showing the restraint I've proven to lack on the matter.  But, I can certainly make it a resolution for 2015. 

And you are correct - I don't get any joy out of railing on the topic - call it venting.  It's basically that my head will explode if I can't get it off my chest/mind - which only gets amplified when I hear the lipstick on pig comments made by Wojo or other "supporters" here. 

[GGGG]

Ners, I like you and am glad you post here.  We can help one another get through this.  I will sponsor you by not trolling you on the topic.  You can do the same.

Derrick Anonymous.

[NersEllenson]

Ners, I like you and am glad you post here.  We can help one another get through this.  I will sponsor you by not trolling you on the topic.  You can do the same.

Derrick Anonymous.

Signed.

And though we battle a lot here Sultan - I too am glad you post here and respect (though disagree on some) you/r takes on MU basketball and passion for it as well.

[GOO]

Ners, have you read the Jay Bilas Book, Toughness?  Maybe apply some of the principals to the matter at hand.  Be tough and train your mind for the greater good and for the sanity of all of us here on scoop!  Please!

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=jay+bilas+book&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=53737330289&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7355533552233331262&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_4r5cthxy9i_e

[Lennys Tap]

I'm joining MU 82 and Sultan in the Derrick moratorium. IMO Ners adds value - and at times much needed humor - to Scoop. Of course as an ex baseball player/wrestler my opinion means next to nothing, but I digress.

Joy to the world! Peace on earth to men of good will! Shalom! I'm officially on the No Trolling Ners on Derrick train. Hope it will help with his detox.

[MU82]

I'm joining MU 82 and Sultan in the Derrick moratorium. IMO Ners adds value - and at times much needed humor - to Scoop. Of course as an ex baseball player/wrestler my opinion means next to nothing, but I digress.

Joy to the world! Peace on earth to men of good will! Shalom! I'm officially on the No Trolling Ners on Derrick train. Hope it will help with his detox.

I never said I'd have a Derrick Moratorium. I had one last year for a month and it helped me put things in perspective, but I'll now have some conversations about him and the overall issue if I feel it's merited. I certainly temper my comments more now.

But I will join others in not baiting Ners. He and I actually are closer to agreeing than disagreeing about Derrick, anyway. I just realize that railing about it in every comment isn't going to change anything, so I don't do it.

[NersEllenson]

I'm joining MU 82 and Sultan in the Derrick moratorium. IMO Ners adds value - and at times much needed humor - to Scoop. Of course as an ex baseball player/wrestler my opinion means next to nothing, but I digress.

Joy to the world! Peace on earth to men of good will! Shalom! I'm officially on the No Trolling Ners on Derrick train. Hope it will help with his detox.

For a wrestler you have very good hoops understanding Lenny.     And as you know we've agreed about a lot more here than we've disagreed - other than of course this lightning rod issue of the last season.