Ouch... Boeheim calls Andy Katz an 'idiot' and 'disloyal person'

[Silkk the Shaka]

Well, anyone can say they would like a conversation off the record, but there's no direct legal consequence for disclosing a so called off the record comment in a media outlet--not even libel is an option if it's the truth. BUT, your credibility as a reporter takes a serious nosedive AKA your livelihood.

Right - but Boeheim should have assumed there was a risk of it getting out even if he requested it be off the record.  What does he gain by telling a journalist something like that off the record anyway?  I see only downside from his perspective.  Either way, Katz is a tool for disclosing it, and I agree he will have less access to such information now.

[MU82]

Right - but Boeheim should have assumed there was a risk of it getting out even if he requested it be off the record.  What does he gain by telling a journalist something like that off the record anyway?  I see only downside from his perspective.  Either way, Katz is a tool for disclosing it, and I agree he will have less access to such information now.

Katz is not a tool for reporting something if there was never an off-the-record agreement. And, as I said earlier, we don't know who is telling the truth.

Also, Katz likely will not see this affect his job one iota. The big names at the big media outlets rarely suffer in these situations. The vast majority of the sources who talked to him yesterday will still talk to him tomorrow.

[Windyplayer]

Katz is not a tool for reporting something is there was never an off-the-record agreement. And, as I said earlier, we don't know who is telling the truth.

Also, Katz likely will not see this affect his job one iota. The big names at the big media outlets rarely suffer in these situations. The vast majority of the sources who talked to him yesterday will still talk to him tomorrow.

Well, of course, there was an oral agreement, so Katz is a tool. Boeheim wouldn't have gone off on him if they didn't have one in place.

And I disagree that this won't affect Katz's job. When you get called out by one of the most powerful coaches in the only sport you cover, you could face some serious stonewalling down the road. Katz is expendable. 

[Pakuni]

So, as it turns out, Boeheim's antics had nothing to do with Katz supposedly broadcasting something given to him off the record about James Southerland. In fact, the two guys haven't spoken to one another since 2011.
JB is still pissed over Katz's reporting of the Bernie Fine story, particularly the relationship between Fine and Boeheim.


http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/02/14/why-did-jim-boeheim-call-andy-katz-an-idiot-and-disloyal-after-syracuse-lost-to-connecticut-its-about-this-bernie-fine-story/

[MU82]

Well, of course, there was an oral agreement, so Katz is a tool. Boeheim wouldn't have gone off on him if they didn't have one in place.

And I disagree that this won't affect Katz's job. When you get called out by one of the most powerful coaches in the only sport you cover, you could face some serious stonewalling down the road. Katz is expendable. 

See Pakuni's post just above. So there you have it. Has nothing to do with off the record. Two pages were spent, with many posters ripping Katz for something he didn't do.

Katz's reputation will be just fine.

[honkytonk]

"I have a few other things I could add but Im not going to go there."

I still think Boeheim was irked about the Southerland reporting. The comment I highlighted above was prob in reference to the Fine reporting.

[Dawson Rental]

I used to not mind Boeheim. Then he caused our conference to fall apart.

Boeheim has been around for a awfully long time, but I really don't think he was around back when Syracuse decided to start playing football.

[Windyplayer]

See Pakuni's post just above. So there you have it. Has nothing to do with off the record. Two pages were spent, with many posters ripping Katz for something he didn't do.

Katz's reputation will be just fine.

Yes, new information was introduced. Pakuni's post changes my opinion.

[Pakuni]

Boeheim confirms that it was all about Bernie Fine:

http://www.syracuse.com/poliquin/index.ssf/2013/02/jim_boeheim_explains_what_led.html

FWIW, I tend to take Katz's side of the he said-he said here. No way he cuts a deal to interview Boeheim but not ask any questions about Bernie Fine at the height of that scandal.

[chapman]

So Superwhiner just whined about something not going his way again?  Shocker.  Carry on, Andy.  I'm sure someone else will be lashed out at soon when another player is unfairly suspended, the selection committee doesn't give Syracuse his ideal seed, matchup, or location, opposing fans are mean to him, or another journalist who isn't an SU alum puts out anything remotely critical of the most perfect program ever.

[DienerTime34]

Nope MUScoop decided it was about off the record comments, so let's stay with that. We don't need facts, this is a message board!

[ZiggysFryBoy]

JB was probably pissed that instead of EA or even Holly Rowe, he got male sideline reporter Andy Katz (aka Lil Siragusa)

[JD]

If Katz didn't say or speak to JB since the Fien reporting, why would he tweet last night saying "SU doesn't pay me" or something in that context, makes no sense. i absolutely belive JB.

[Pakuni]

If Katz didn't say or speak to JB since the Fien reporting, why would he tweet last night saying "SU doesn't pay me" or something in that context, makes no sense. i absolutely belive JB.

Not making the connection ....

Regardless, Boeheim also says he hasn't spoken with Katz since the Fine reporting.
So if you absolutely believe Boeheim, then you also absolutely believe Katz, cause they're saying the same thing.

[keefe]

I guess Boeheim is an expert when it comes to loyalty, considerin' Bernie Fein and such. Just sayin'.

Wasn't Bernie's Mama pulling a Cougar with the Orange players? Wonder if that was part of JB's recruiting pitch?







Uh, maybe not

[ChicosBailBonds]

So, as it turns out, Boeheim's antics had nothing to do with Katz supposedly broadcasting something given to him off the record about James Southerland. In fact, the two guys haven't spoken to one another since 2011.
JB is still pissed over Katz's reporting of the Bernie Fine story, particularly the relationship between Fine and Boeheim.


http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/02/14/why-did-jim-boeheim-call-andy-katz-an-idiot-and-disloyal-after-syracuse-lost-to-connecticut-its-about-this-bernie-fine-story/

That may be the case, but Katz still coming off in a bad light.  JB told him not to go there with Fine prior to the interview, he did anyway and kept doing it on camera.  At least that's his side of the story.

[keefe]

That may be the case, but Katz still coming off in a bad light.  JB told him not to go there with Fine prior to the interview, he did anyway and kept doing it on camera.  At least that's his side of the story.

What was Katz' culpability in breaking the Laurie Fine Cougar story?

[garbier1]

Homer here.
I assume that Jim B. didn't say they were off the record because he assumed that Andy knew the limitations about talking about players academics. I would be upset if I were Jim B. I don't know if I've ever said this before-I've got his side on this one.
And Andy knows the limitations.

[Pakuni]

Homer here.
I assume that Jim B. didn't say they were off the record because he assumed that Andy knew the limitations about talking about players academics. I would be upset if I were Jim B. I don't know if I've ever said this before-I've got his side on this one.
And Andy knows the limitations.

Homer ... it has nothing to do with on/off the record or academics. It goes back to Bernie Fine.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Trivia:  Bernie Fine was mentioned as a candidate to replace Dukiet.

[4everwarriors]

Woulda been a step up.

[karavotsos]

Why were Breen, Van Gundy and Doris Burke present?  Was it analogous to when mentor teachers sit in on a class to see how a young teacher is doing?  I'm sure Doris and Breen were both shaking their heads while Van Gundy was saying under his breath, 'ask him about flopping in the NBA.  ask him about flopping in the NBA.' 

Who cares about Andy Katz?  I'm sure every other coach in the NCAA's is envious of Boeheim because he has a legitimate excuse never to talk to Katz again.

[keefe]

Woulda been a step up.

A step up over KO?? Let's compare wives:


Standing By Her Man

Roberta O'Neill starts bar brawl defending her man after AZ defeats Cal

http://www.pointguardu.com/content/kevin-o-neill-drunken-altercation-arizona-fans-659/



Laurie Fine beds Syracuse players during 1990's

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bernie_fine_wife_had_sex_with_players_QhiOtjpZ8a1CUTaRbZVi0O



The Photos:




Roberta O'Neill



Laurie Fine