Occupy JSonline until Enlund is on twitter

[deep vacuum]

Really, it just comes down to paying for the road trips.

Which includes the Virgin Islands this year.

If this funding suggestion would include seating points I would consider it.

[Warrior Forever]

Well, having "no competition" is an old argument but one that isn't based in reality.  If you limit the communication vehicles to "traditional newspapers" well, yeah...Milwaukee only has one, but that is the case is many cities.

However, there are many web-based services that provide better coverage than the MJS ever had.  If you look at it in that context, there is actually a lot of competition for coverage. 

How many of these "web-based services" drive any sizable revenue, ie - take $ from the Journal-Sentinel?  I venture virtually none.  Newspapers are dying for a host of reasons, but I don't believe it's due to sites such as these (despite how great this site and others like, Cracked Sidewalks, may be).

Go Warriors.

[brewcity77]

How many of these "web-based services" drive any sizable revenue, ie - take $ from the Journal-Sentinel?  I venture virtually none.  Newspapers are dying for a host of reasons, but I don't believe it's due to sites such as these (despite how great this site and others like, Cracked Sidewalks, may be).

Go Warriors.

But the point isn't that they take sizable revenue, it's that they take revenue at all, and that there are thousands of sources. If you want general news, you can look to Yahoo, the Huffington Post, or Google, not to mention the 24-hour news cycle sites like CNN.com, MSNBC.com, and FoxNews.com. And every local television station now has their articles online, so instead of waiting until 5, 6, or 10, people can get their local updates now from WISN.com, TodaysTMJ4.com, or CBS58.com (okay...that last one was a joke). And all of that news is updated constantly.

20 years ago, if you wanted news throughout the day, you either had to watch CNN's national feed or read the paper. Those were the only options. Now there are thousands of options at your fingertips that specialize in what you want. If you want Marquette basketball news, there are dozens of Marquette sites that will give you what you want without having to drudge through what you don't. If you want local news, there are multiple local sites. The same goes for national, entertainment, or anything else.

Back then, you paid your 25 cents for the paper and JS got all of that money. Now, all of these websites are taking their hundredth of a cent. Sure, it's not a huge deal when 100 websites turn your 25 cents into 24, but when the competition is 10,000 websites, it's a little harder to keep your share.

[Ron Paul]

I know more than a little bit about their online revenue generation.  If you go on the front page of JSonline.com the "Newswatch" section costs $12k/mo with a 3 month commitment, that slot is sold 4 times.  The CPM or cost per 1000 clicks ranges from $8 to $23 and up if you are looking at Packers coverage.  There is significant revenue on the online side.

[Ron Paul]

And just for reference, the Occupy was a jab at how ridiculous that whole situation is.  I worked for the Bush campaign in 2004...

[Warrior Forever]

I know more than a little bit about their online revenue generation.  If you go on the front page of JSonline.com the "Newswatch" section costs $12k/mo with a 3 month commitment, that slot is sold 4 times.  The CPM or cost per 1000 clicks ranges from $8 to $23 and up if you are looking at Packers coverage.  There is significant revenue on the online side.

There is POTENTIAL significant revenue.  Ask the powers that be.  There is very little revenue online for newspapers through subscription.  They let the Jeannie out of the bottle by initially giving away their product.  Too late to charge now.

Go Warriors

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dailyherald.com/article/20110830/business/708309983/

[GGGG]

There is POTENTIAL significant revenue.  Ask the powers that be.  There is very little revenue online for newspapers through subscription.  They let the Jeannie out of the bottle by initially giving away their product.  Too late to charge now.

It didn't matter if they would have started to charge right away.  Competition would have always undercut it.  They essentially *have* to give away their product online for them to have any credibility as a news organization.  Hell, if the New York Times and Wall Street Journal can't money money on subscriptions, no one can.

And if Ear is right, MJS is making $$$ online anyway.

In the larger picture, the MJS is going to devote most of their resources on what brings in the most money - and that is the Packers and the Badgers.  Frankly, they probably know they can't really compete for the MU audience against everything else that is out there - so why not stick a reporter that is close to retirement out there and have him right some fluff stuff for the fogies that don't know how to turn on a computer.

[6746jonesr]

I get the pecking order, but I think MU hoops deserves at least equal coverage to UW hoops. UW gets a front page feature for a suburban kid walking on while Burton gets a page 10 blurb? That's a joke.

I understand how they do things, but a good MU program is good for them. Say MU and UW both make the Final Four. Which paper will people buy for posterity's sake? MU fans would want the JS issue. UW fans would want the WSJ issue because it's Madison's paper. And I certainly feel MU hoops deserves to be a step up from minor-league hockey and fishing.

Wisconsin is a State team, not just a Madison team.  There are far more Badger fans in Milwaukee than there are Marquette fans.

[Ron Paul]

There is POTENTIAL significant revenue.  Ask the powers that be.  There is very little revenue online for newspapers through subscription.  They let the Jeannie out of the bottle by initially giving away their product.  Too late to charge now.

Go Warriors

Who's Jeannie?