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Ron Paul

We need to get this guy on Twitter, Rosiak says not to hold your breath.  Unacceptable for a beat writer nowadays.

The Lens

Is he officially our beat writer?  Who has the UWM beat?  He does have a great basketball background.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Chili

Quote from: The Lens on October 18, 2011, 05:58:36 AM
Is he officially our beat writer?  Who has the UWM beat?  He does have a great basketball background.

Yes, he is officially our beat writer now. Hoping he steps up engagement with the MU fans, simple reporting doesn't cut it any more.
But I like to throw handfuls...

Wade for President

Seriously.  Covering MU hoops has become a 24x7 gig.  Let's face it.  We're a needy group that demands info and insight.

Ron Paul

Not only that, but the coverage he has put in so far has left much to be desired.  I can't say I followed a lot of his work when he was covering UWM, but I am extremely disappointed with this move by JS.

Golden Avalanche

I asked this in the other thread........but what was Enlund doing with the JS prior to being given the MU beat?

I'd have to imagine the JS would look at the MU beat as a promotion rather then moving a veteran at the paper down to the beat. Seems a perfect assignment to get a reporter to learn the business.

Having a dinosaur who's being put out to pasture doesn't foretell improvement.

Ron Paul

Enlund was covering UWM basketball as well as fill in work for the Bucks.  He's not a bad writer but he doesnt, from what I can gather on the UWM feed, break stories Nor does he offer any great insight into games, players, strategy, recruiting, etc.

brewcity77

I don't think that's a concern where the JS is concerned. Marquette gets two types of coverage: routine and scandalous. They give us the weekly report during the season, game reports and box scores, but only really allow us to be headline news when something's wrong.

I would love for the JS to be in our corner. I think Rosiak was, but it's not like he was Jody Demling. In the JS mind, the Packers are 1, the Badgers are 2, the Brewers and Bucks are 3 & 4 when they're winning, and then you have Marquette, the Admirals, UW-Milwaukee, and the fishing report all kind of carrying the rear. No matter who's on the MU beat, that won't change unless there's a fundamental change in their sports department.

As much as I'd like their support, I've given up on it. Deonte Burton committing to Marquette should have been front page news. A top-tier Milwaukee player comes home to play in his home town. It writes itself. I know TR was out of town, but it was all over Twitter. Their sports department either dropped the ball or didn't care. Now we have a guy who isn't even on Twitter? Never mind that he won't be tweeting, he also doesn't have it as a news source, which like it or not, it definitely is.

The JS doesn't care about the positives of MU hoops and hasn't for awhile. Better to accept it and turn to Cracked Sidewalks, Scout, Anonymous Eagle, and of course MUScoop for your Marquette coverage.

mu_hilltopper

Look, if MU wants the kind of coverage Rosiak gave them, all they have to do is pick up the phone.

Invite the guy to scrimmages, call him when news needs to be leaked, invite him to team stuff.   Presto. 

Rosiak wasn't digging around in garbage cans for leads, you know.   He got invited to observe the team, coaches, and program, accepted the invites, and wrote about it.


Hards Alumni

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on October 19, 2011, 08:48:07 AM
Look, if MU wants the kind of coverage Rosiak gave them, all they have to do is pick up the phone.

Invite the guy to scrimmages, call him when news needs to be leaked, invite him to team stuff.   Presto. 

Rosiak wasn't digging around in garbage cans for leads, you know.   He got invited to observe the team, coaches, and program, accepted the invites, and wrote about it.



+1

PuertoRicanNightmare

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 19, 2011, 06:39:26 AM
In the JS mind, the Packers are 1, the Badgers are 2, the Brewers and Bucks are 3 & 4 when they're winning, and then you have Marquette, the Admirals, UW-Milwaukee, and the fishing report all kind of carrying the rear. No matter who's on the MU beat, that won't change unless there's a fundamental change in their sports department.

I'm curious if you have a problem with this pecking order. If I was the Journal Sports Editor, that'd be my list and I'm an MU graduate.

The Lens

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 19, 2011, 08:54:18 AM
I'm curious if you have a problem with this pecking order. If I was the Journal Sports Editor, that'd be my list and I'm an MU graduate.

Amen.  I'm a STH, an alum, a son of Alums, a sibling of 3 Alums and husband of an Alum and if I was running the MJS that's what I would. 

Deonte Burton?  Really.  That's inside baseball to me.  Especially in this day and age when recruits change their minds annually.  The MJS does not hate MU, when it comes to sports, they know their audience. 

And when it comes to the "other stuff", every year people here laud the Chicago Tribune for its great coverage but they led the league in MU "bashing" this summer. 

Readers dictate coverage.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Boone

While I liked Rosiak -- especially coming on the heels of the disaster that was Lori Nickel -- he rarely, if ever, broke stories. Seemed like all of his recruiting articles were just recaps of commitments, not stories about who we were actively recruiting.

brewcity77

Quote from: The Lens on October 19, 2011, 09:18:38 AM
Deonte Burton?  Really.  That's inside baseball to me.  Especially in this day and age when recruits change their minds annually.  The MJS does not hate MU, when it comes to sports, they know their audience.

I get the pecking order, but I think MU hoops deserves at least equal coverage to UW hoops. UW gets a front page feature for a suburban kid walking on while Burton gets a page 10 blurb? That's a joke.

I understand how they do things, but a good MU program is good for them. Say MU and UW both make the Final Four. Which paper will people buy for posterity's sake? MU fans would want the JS issue. UW fans would want the WSJ issue because it's Madison's paper. And I certainly feel MU hoops deserves to be a step up from minor-league hockey and fishing.

77ncaachamps

Is someone here willing to do it pro bono?

I mean, if $ is the issue, I'm sure a super-crazy Marquette fan will do it for pittance as long as they have media only access.

What'cha say JSO?
SS Marquette

We R Final Four

Quote from: The Lens on October 19, 2011, 09:18:38 AM
Amen.  I'm a STH, an alum, a son of Alums, a sibling of 3 Alums and husband of an Alum and if I was running the MJS that's what I would. 

Deonte Burton?  Really.  That's inside baseball to me.  Especially in this day and age when recruits change their minds annually.  The MJS does not hate MU, when it comes to sports, they know their audience. 

And when it comes to the "other stuff", every year people here laud the Chicago Tribune for its great coverage but they led the league in MU "bashing" this summer. 

Readers dictate coverage.
You are MU alums and obvious fans and you wouldn't change UW hoops #2 and Marquette/Admirals/UwM/FISHING REPORT #5 ?????????  You wouldn't change that pecking order if you could? Wow--I hope you don't get a job in the sports dept at MJS.
Let's go fishing.

MU B2002

Quote from: We R Final Four on October 19, 2011, 10:10:18 AM
You are MU alums and obvious fans and you wouldn't change UW hoops #2 and Marquette/Admirals/UwM/FISHING REPORT #5 ?????????  You wouldn't change that pecking order if you could? Wow--I hope you don't get a job in the sports dept at MJS.
Let's go fishing.


I believe he was looking at it from the perspective of running a business, not what he would personally like to see.  Of course the MJS is going to cater to the larger fan base.  They would be stupid not to...
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

StillAWarrior

Quote from: We R Final Four on October 19, 2011, 10:10:18 AM
You are MU alums and obvious fans and you wouldn't change UW hoops #2 and Marquette/Admirals/UwM/FISHING REPORT #5 ?????????  You wouldn't change that pecking order if you could? Wow--I hope you don't get a job in the sports dept at MJS.
Let's go fishing.

You make a great point.  If I were running the MJS sports department, the pecking order would definitely change:


  • 1 - My kids' sports
  • 1a - Marquette basketball
  • 2 - Cleveland Indians
  • 3 - Notre Dame football
  • 4 - Other Marquette sports
  • 5 - Cleveland Cavaliers
  • 6 - Cleveland Browns

After all, those are the things I'm interested, so if I was running a newspaper sports department, those are the things I'd focus on.  Trust me, you'd just love reading about my kids' sporting exploits......they're awesome...do you have a couple hours...I'll tell you about it...wanna see some pictures?
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

We R Final Four

No, I wouldn't.  I understand this is a business not your kid's photo album.  A little shocked that if given the opportunity to run a department some 'wouldn't change a thing' where the premise is we are on the sporting news equivalent of the Admirals and fishing for Christ's sake.

Would putting players in the league year after year change anything or still have no impact on the pecking order that you could have the power to change?

GGGG

Quote from: We R Final Four on October 19, 2011, 11:13:11 AM
Would putting players in the league year after year change anything or still have no impact on the pecking order that you could have the power to change?


The only thing that changes the order is success on the court.  Conference championships...final four appearances...national championships.  I bet the typical Milwaukeean has no idea that MU has put three players in the NBA in the last three years - and if you told them, they would say "That's nice....think the Packers will go undefeated?"


We R Final Four

OK got it--MU Bball will be our little secret. 


GGGG

Maybe you should get some perspective.  Stop projecting *your* interests onto the interests of the readership of the MJS at large.  And it's not their job to promote MU either.


BobWildLoyalist

Does anyone know where Enlund went to school or where his loyalties lie? Is he from Wisco?

StillAWarrior

Quote from: We R Final Four on October 19, 2011, 11:13:11 AM
A little shocked that if given the opportunity to run a department some 'wouldn't change a thing' where the premise is we are on the sporting news equivalent of the Admirals and fishing for Christ's sake.

Brewcity77 can speak for himself, but I didn't interpret his pecking order to imply that "we are on the sporting news equivalent of the Admirals and fishing."  I interpreted his pecking order to mean that we're fifth (behind the Packers, Badgers, Brewers and Bucks), and that we're ahead of those other things.  I don't disagree with this relative placement.  Do you?

If you want to discuss the strength of each team's spot on the pecking order I'd suppose it would look like this (and this is coming from someone who hasn't lived in Milwaukee for a number of years, so you all can tell me if I'm nuts):

1.  Packers
Normal Margin
2.  Badgers
Wide Margin
3/4.  Brewers/Bucks
Fairly Narrow Margin
5.  Marquette
Very Wide Margin
6.  Admirals, UWM, fishing, etc.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

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